Thomas Massie, forum member & elected official, is running a winnable race; let's help!

[Jeremy]

Yeah, how do we know the candidate supports Ron. He could be a plant by the establishment to join the board in September of 2009. Hold events for Rand, donate to Rand and Ron, promote Ron on his blog, Run for office for County Judge, Cause Geoff Davis to retire and then win to help the establishment bring in the NWO....

Seriously, the purity test on here..... it's baffling.

It's amazing how quick some of the members are at jumping on our candidates. Let alone our candidates that are fellow members!

 

[BamaFanNKy]

It's amazing how quick some of the members are at jumping on our candidates. Let alone our candidates that are fellow members!

No wonder we lose in the long run.

 

[trey4sports]

there is a way to avoid endorsing Ron Paul without criticizing him. massie could've just answered the question with "I'll endorse the nominee" without saying anything bad about RP's foreign policy. if he was asked if he supported Ron's foreign policy, he could've said "which part?". if he was asked something specific and wanted to be vague, he could've said "it's worth debating".

This. It's really baffling to me as to WHY he would do that.

Yeah, how do we know the candidate supports Ron. He could be a plant by the establishment to join the board in September of 2009. Hold events for Rand, donate to Rand and Ron, promote Ron on his blog, Run for office for County Judge, Cause Geoff Davis to retire and then win to help the establishment bring in the NWO....

Seriously, the purity test on here..... it's baffling.

Look, I don't doubt that he supports Ron. I don't think anyone doubts that. He really threw Ron under the bus though. I understand that Ron is somewhat toxic to average GOP folks but there is no way I would try to defend his words there. He specifically points out he doesn't agree with Ron's foreign policy, without even being asked about foreign policy and then wouldn't even go on to say he agrees with Ron the most out of the current candidates!

 

[BamaFanNKy]

This. It's really baffling to me as to WHY he would do that.



Look, I don't doubt that he supports Ron. I don't think anyone doubts that. He really threw Ron under the bus though. I understand that Ron is somewhat toxic to average GOP folks but there is no way I would try to defend his words there. He specifically points out he doesn't agree with Ron's foreign policy, without even being asked about foreign policy and then wouldn't even go on to say he agrees with Ron the most out of the current candidates!

Sorry, to come out and endorse a POTUS candidate when you are running is dumb. Some of you still act like political amateurs.

 

[realtonygoodwin]

The reason we love Ron Paul is his courage to say things that are not politically proper for a certain crowd. He tells it like it is. If this Massie guy is too timid to support a candidate that he supposedly he likes, then he's just like the other politicians in the Republican party.

Perhaps that is why YOU like him, but I don't think you can speak for all of us.

 

[Brett85]

Yeah, how do we know the candidate supports Ron. He could be a plant by the establishment to join the board in September of 2009. Hold events for Rand, donate to Rand and Ron, promote Ron on his blog, Run for office for County Judge, Cause Geoff Davis to retire and then win to help the establishment bring in the NWO....

Seriously, the purity test on here..... it's baffling.

What's baffling is that this guy would donate money to Ron and then criticize his foreign policy views and refuse to say that he supports him.

 

[trey4sports]

Sorry, to come out and endorse a POTUS candidate when you are running is dumb. Some of you still act like political amateurs.

I'm assuming that you've run many successful campaigns then, right?

I mean, you're a political dynamo, right?

You wouldn't happen to be a keyboard-jockey who works a 9-5 and happens to think he knows more than he really does, right?





It's not meant to be an insult or to start a pissing match, but get off your high horse.

 

[Jeremy]

What's baffling is that this guy would donate money to Ron and then criticize his foreign policy views and refuse to say that he supports him.

He didn't criticize his foreign policy views. He was trying to not talk about the POTUS race and was just saying he doesn't agree with Ron 100%. I think it's quite obvious he supports Ron.

 

[Adrock]

Am I watching the same video? Where did he criticize RP's foreign policy?

 

[BamaFanNKy]

I'm assuming that you've run many successful campaigns then, right?

I mean, you're a political dynamo, right?

You wouldn't happen to be a keyboard-jockey who works a 9-5 and happens to think he knows more than he really does, right?





It's not meant to be an insult or to start a pissing match, but get off your high horse.

I'm 3-0. Mayor race, Congressional and worked partially on a Governor campaign. My horse is high because some of you are just trying to do purity tests.

Also, the high horse is criticizing a guy from your keyboard who puts his life out there for liberty.

 

[Austin]

Massie has donated a lot to Ron, and he's already shown his disdain for legislation like NDAA/SOPA/PATRIOT Act, etc. He may be more like Rand than Ron on foreign policy, but those differences are minor.

If you require someone to openly endorse Ron to get your support, then Massie isn't your guy. But I'm not going to fault him for that; I know the political reality of elections like this.

I, for one, will be supporting Thomas Massie not because of who he endorses, but because he will stand up for my constitutional rights while in Congress.

 

[Brett85]

Am I watching the same video? Where did he criticize RP's foreign policy?

He said, "I don't agree with his views on defense issues."

Even I may not agree with every single aspect of Ron's views on defense/foreign policy issues. However, I wouldn't bring it up if I wasn't asked about it. If I was asked about it, I would say that I agree with Ron's foreign policy views "for the most part." If they asked me who I supported for President, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to say that I support Ron.

 

[Jeremy]

He said, "I don't agree with his views on defense issues."

Even I may not agree with every single aspect of Ron's views on defense/foreign policy issues. However, I wouldn't bring it up if I wasn't asked about it. If I was asked about it, I would say that I agree with Ron's foreign policy views "for the most part." If they asked me who I supported for President, I certainly wouldn't hesitate to say that I support Ron.

Well I think that's what he meant. Don't be so critical of how he worded it. Look at his other interviews. He is strong against NDAA, for example. He's against nation building. He is a true Constitutionalist. So I don't know what you're trying to say... he's a neocon against nation building? I know he agrees with Rand on fp. And Rand has said he doesn't agree with his dad as well.

 

[Brett85]

Massie has donated a lot to Ron, and he's already shown his disdain for legislation like NDAA/SOPA/PATRIOT Act, etc. He may be more like Rand than Ron on foreign policy, but those differences are minor.

If you require someone to openly endorse Ron to get your support, then Massie isn't your guy. But I'm not going to fault him for that; I know the political reality of elections like this.

I, for one, will be supporting Thomas Massie not because of who he endorses, but because he will stand up for my constitutional rights while in Congress.

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[BamaFanNKy]

Exactly, it's not about Liberty or getting more candidates in office.... it's about Ron.

 

[Brett85]

Well I think that's what he meant. Don't be so critical of how he worded it. Look at his other interviews. He is strong against NDAA, for example. He's against nation building. He is a true Constitutionalist. So I don't know what you're trying to say... he's a neocon against nation building? I know he agrees with Rand on fp. And Rand has said he doesn't agree with his dad as well.

Maybe so. But it just seems somewhat strange that someone who posts here wouldn't admit to supporting Ron. If he's worried that it could hurt him in his race, he should realize that it's very easy for his opponents to go on the internet and see who he donated money to. There's no reason at all for him to deny his support for Ron.

 

[low preference guy]

i'm just giving friendly advice. i want him to win. he hurts himself when he undermines an important source of financial support.

 

[BamaFanNKy]

i'm just giving friendly advice. i want him to win. he hurts himself when he undermines an important source of financial support.

I don't think you guys realize how far Rand had to run from his own father to win in Kentucky. I get this, "I love Rand but can't stand his father" all the time. Like you said in another thread, it's about perception.

 

[Jeremy]

Maybe so. But it just seems somewhat strange that someone who posts here wouldn't admit to supporting Ron. If he's worried that it could hurt him in his race, he should realize that it's very easy for his opponents to go on the internet and see who he donated money to. There's no reason at all for him to deny his support for Ron.

Um he does admit to supporting Ron on his website, Facebook, with his wallet, etc. (Austin is wrong) Rand Paul said TM supports Ron in his book too, lol! He just didn't want to talk about POTUS politics and it came across weird. If you don't believe me, wait until someone asks him again I guess...

 

[Brett85]

I don't think you guys realize how far Rand had to run from his own father to win in Kentucky. I get this, "I love Rand but can't stand his father" all the time. Like you said in another thread, it's about perception.

Yeah, but Rand never said that he didn't support his father. He openly admitted to supporting his father in 2008. He's certainly been strong in his support for Ron this time around as well.