Is Ted Cruz eligible ? Read the timeline and decide.

[Kords21]

In my view, the smoking gun is the fact he renounced his Canadian citizenship just before he entered the Presidential race. I could understand if he were a minor, and just turned age of majority to renounce Canadian citizenship; but he's 40 something years old and did so just before running for the U.S. Presidency?

Now, according to CNN, Cruz is saying he didn't know.

Besides the loan from Goldman, what is he saying he didn't know about now? That he had renounced his Canadian citizenship?

 

[Dianne]

I didn't know that both of his parents had applied for and received Canadian citizenship. I've basically stayed completely out of this debate up to this point, but if that's true then the answer is unequivocally "No," No, he is not eligible.

Same here, that's what I think. And if Cruz did not think it was going to be an issue, why did he renounce his Canadian citizenship just months before entering the election. Heck, even Rand Paul mocks Cruz as potentially our first Canadian President.

 

[Dianne]

Besides the loan from Goldman, what is he saying he didn't know about now? That he had renounced his Canadian citizenship?

Trump was being interviewed earlier on nbc (CNN showed the interview a few moments ago to get opinions from their anchors). Trump brought up that Cruz was already sued today regarding the charges of being Canadian. The commentator said now Cruz is saying he didn't know. Trump said that's even worse if you are running for President and don't even know what country you're a citizen of. Trump then said Cruz also forgot about the Goldman Sachs million dollar loan.

 

[Dianne]

I know I am a conspiracy theorist to a certain extent. I find conspiracies before Alex Jones does, lol. But hear me out. Ted Cruz's wife, Heidi is a managing director of Goldman Sachs. Managing director is the firm’s second-highest rank. Goldman loaned Ted $1,000,000, a loan Ted forgot to disclose. What if Cruz's entire campaign is to win the nomination, be disqualified, in order for Goldman's favorite darlings Hillary and Bill to then take back the White House. There is no doubting Hillary is Wall Street's candidate and there is some reason Ted Cruz chose to not disclose the million he received from them.

 

[GunnyFreedom]

so heidi cruz is goldman sachs AND CFR?? screw ted cruz totally..

Irony is you have a guy who worked for George W Bush, promoted the appointment of John Roberts, his wife is a regional director for Goldman Sachs who wrote the blueprint for the North American Union for the Council on Foreign Relations, started his campaign with a million dollar loan from Goldman Sachs....and "grassroots conservatives" are supporting this guy because he's "anti-establishment."

 

[69360]

His mother was a US citizen at his birth. He is a citizen. There is no doubt of it at all.

 

[jmdrake]

Hold up? Ted Cruz' dad was a pro Castro Cuban? And Mr. Glenn "everybody is connected to George Soros" Beck has nothing to say about that?

 

[jmdrake]

His mother was a US citizen at his birth. He is a citizen. There is no doubt of it at all.

Barack Obama's mom was a citizen at his birth and yet republicans made an issue of it claiming he might not be a natural born citizen if he was born in Kenya.

 

[specsaregood]

Barack Obama's mom was a citizen at his birth and yet republicans made an issue of it claiming he might not be a natural born citizen if he was born in Kenya.

FWIW, I believe that issue was made because his mom was too young to make him a US citizen if he was born outside the US. IIRC, she was 16 and she would have had to be 18+.

 

[RonPaulMall]

In my view, the smoking gun is the fact he renounced his Canadian citizenship just before he entered the Presidential race. I could understand if he were a minor, and just turned age of majority to renounce Canadian citizenship; but he's 40 something years old and did so just before running for the U.S. Presidency?

That is an irrelevancy. He was born a US Citizen according to US Law. Canada, Cuba, and any number of other nations can consider him a citizen as well, but that it is between him and those nations. If you are born an American Citizen, the US Government considers you an American Citizen whether you like it or not and the only way you can make yourself not a citizen is to take affirmative steps to renounce your citizenship.

The "timeline" has nothing to do with the debate. Ted Cruz was born an American- there is no dispute about that. The question is whether being born an American is enough to be considered natural born. Trump's argument is that it is not. He interprets "natural born" to mean that you are both born an American citizen and born inside the United States. Ted Cruz was born an American Citizen, but like Barry Goldwater, George Romney, and John McCain, he was NOT born inside the United States.

 

[69360]

Barack Obama's mom was a citizen at his birth and yet republicans made an issue of it claiming he might not be a natural born citizen if he was born in Kenya.

The birthers then were as stupid as the birthers now.

 

[ThePopinator]

I didn't know that both of his parents had applied for and received Canadian citizenship. I've basically stayed completely out of this debate up to this point, but if that's true then the answer is unequivocally "No," No, he is not eligible.

Where in the Constitution does it say that if your parents are dual citizens you can't be president?

 

[ThePopinator]

FWIW, I believe that issue was made because his mom was too young to make him a US citizen if he was born outside the US. IIRC, she was 16 and she would have had to be 18+.

She was 19 and I've never seen an age requirement for a mother to pass on citizenship. There currently is a residency requirement, but not an explicit age one.

 

[specsaregood]

She was 19 and I've never seen an age requirement for a mother to pass on citizenship. There currently is a residency requirement, but not an explicit age one.

Not that I want to go down the whole Obama birther rabbit whole:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-not-a-citizen-thanks-to-his-own-mother/

”When one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other a foreign national, the U.S. citizen parent must have resided in the U.S. for a total of 10 years prior to birth of the child with FIVE of the years after the age of 14.”

 

[nikcers]

To me Naturally born citizen refers to a genetically born citizen. How do you define that by DNA and the inception of the the genes. Therefore someone would have to be genetically made from the reproduction of American citizens. I think that there has always been a legal distinction between people that have gained citizenship this way and through any other means.

 

[Dianne]

I told my daughter, born in Europe to 2 American parents, that she can never be president...only governor or first lady . (She's been watching debates with me since Ron Paul first ran and she was 2!) So, I'd like to know why even if he's a citizen, that status has changed for those board abroad. That's what I was always told.

Generally, I'm proud to have Cruz as my senator (though I'm really upset about his skipping the Audit vote and Rand Paul is 1000x better, but comparatively, he's not bad and way better than who he replaced.), but I've never thought he was eligible. While the courts could reinterpret that, seems pretty risky to be spending money on a campaign that might get someone elected who can't legally serve. Don't they know the Dem's will push that? I think it's ridiculous. He's not eligible unless the laws change. Then add one non-citizen parent, citizenship in Canada and mom's status questionable...wow. I'd like to see the certificate of American board abroad. That would confirm it all. I'm not much of a birther-type, but I don't think he's eligible unless the courts re-interpret the natural board clause to mean a citizen at birth instead of born in the USA boundaries.

And that's the issue. Cruz was sued today, and he will be sued by the Dems if he wins the nomination. What will that do for the election? Will they have to postpone the election and leave Obama in power until the suit makes its way to the Supreme Court? I agree with Donald Trump that Cruz should have completed all the work in advance of running, a declaratory judgement from a court saying he is eligible.

 

[Dianne]

Not that I want to go down the whole Obama birther rabbit whole:
http://www.westernjournalism.com/obama-not-a-citizen-thanks-to-his-own-mother/

In Cruz's case one parent was a U.S. citizen and the other was a foreign national. His Dad had green card status only, not a citizen.

 

[CPUd]

And that's the issue. Cruz was sued today, and he will be sued by the Dems if he wins the nomination. What will that do for the election? Will they have to postpone the election and leave Obama in power until the suit makes its way to the Supreme Court? I agree with Donald Trump that Cruz should have completed all the work in advance of running, a declaratory judgement from a court saying he is eligible.

People are all over his facebook page saying this, and the Cruz supporters on there are freaking out. They've been freaking out all week, but even more so since last night.

 

[Dianne]

People are all over his facebook page saying this, and the Cruz supporters on there are freaking out. They've been freaking out all week, but even more so since last night.

Cruz is the neocon tea party candidate, the tea party that hijacked Ron Paul's tea party movement in 2007 . So I won't be crying on my pillow every night when Cruz implodes. I just wish we had gotten Bush out of the race first.

 

[derek4ever]

I've got a personal question. Follow me please. I was born in Seattle and my mom and dad were born in Chile. My dad gave up his Chilean citizenship after serving for the U.S. Air Force during Vietnam. My mom was able to get a green card but she never got U.S. citizenship because she got sick. Plus I have Chilean citizenship thanks to my mom and never gave up my American citizenship. Would I be considered a "natural-born citizen" under the original Constitutional sense of the word?