Freddie Gray severed his own spinal cord

[dannno]

for checkpoints never had them and don't know any city that did, not sure that many places do, I've never ran into one in any state, city or town I've ever been to, but no, I do not support checkpoints. .

You would have to stay out past your bedtime to see DUI checkpoints.

It's good your against them tho - they are an affront to liberty and they don't even work - it ties up too many resources looking through innocent people, and they usually just end up getting people for paperwork violations and random stuff.

 

[HankRicther12]

so basically, all you have to be is an uncaring asshole to be cop or jailer it sounds like. Pre-requisite i suppose.

Um, what?

I'm pretty sure you get a lot of 'actors' in jail, and most have an 'attitude', but to be that robotic about your job is not going to cut it. Looks like the problem lies in the hiring programs, and training. Do they require a drug test before hire?...and did you get random drug tested?

Again, what? Robotic? Don't even have a clue where any of that is coming from and I'm mostly just ignoring your childish posts at this point but I do want to answer that question so the few here who might have an ounce of interest in truth and objectivity can know: yes, I did get drug tested when I was hired, so did all the cops, any cop involved in any kind of vehicle incident, even if he just slightly backed into a light pole, had to get drug tested, there were other incidents as well that would require them, any other questions?

 

[Elias Graves]

I watched a different video on a bigger screen. That man's neck was broken before they ever picked him up.

 

[Carlybee]

What? Most offenses do get plead out, I didn't say the next day, how about you quit putting words in my mouth. When the fuck did I say you didn't deserve due process, I'll give an axe murderer due process, doesn't change my personal feeling towards him. My goodness, how old are all of you? I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of kids in junior high. You're all worse than the lefties at Huffington and the righties at Breitbart, all of you at your core are exactly the same, have no argument so you spin things, lie, whip out the buzz words: racist, isolationist, statist, hates America, hates women, on and on. I'm glad my shift is almost over so I can go get drunk and have fun, and yes, I do have a DD

DD? Is that your cup size?

 

[HankRicther12]

I watched a different video on a bigger screen. That man's neck was broken before they ever picked him up.

Well then, that settles it. One more time, might very well be true, but I'm afraid I'm still going to wait and see all the evidence.

 

[HankRicther12]

DD? Is that your cup size?

Oh man, I have to hand it to you, you actually held it together for a few posts and asked some legit questions, but, that....just embarrassing.

 

[Carlybee]

Oh man, I have to hand it to you, you actually held it together for a few posts and asked some legit questions, but, that....just embarrassing.

Your responses really don't deserve much better.

 

[HankRicther12]

You would have to stay out past your bedtime to see DUI checkpoints.

It's good your against them tho - they are an affront to liberty and they don't even work - it ties up too many resources looking through innocent people, and they usually just end up getting people for paperwork violations and random stuff.

As I get older my bedtimes is getting earlier, but did have my rowdy days, never happened to me.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Can't think of one logical argument for drunk driving.

No, but I can think of plenty that support abolishing drunk driving laws.

Start here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?264647-Eliminate-Drunk-Driving-laws

 

[Anti Federalist]

Can't think of one logical argument for drunk driving.

No, but I can think of plenty that support abolishing drunk driving laws.

Start here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?264647-Eliminate-Drunk-Driving-laws

 

[AuH20]

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/0...s-result-of-police-who-arrested-him-prob.html

Sources said the medical examiner found Gray's catastrophic injury was caused when he slammed into the back of the police transport van, apparently breaking his neck; a head injury he sustained matches a bolt in the back of the van.

Details surrounding exactly what caused Gray to slam into the back of the van were unclear. The officer driving the van has yet to give a statement to authorities. It’s also unclear whether Gray’s head injury was voluntary or was a result of some other action.

 

[invisible]

Never said it was illegal.

Search "No Refusal DUI Checkpoint".

You don't have to say it's illegal, the 4th and 5th Amendments have already done so. Unfortunately, it isn't like that pesky Constitution has ever prevented them from just doing whatever they want to people.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Why does it make you laugh? This is a serious matter. The police lack accountability and when they arrest someone and that person is in their possession, they are responsible for the well-being of that person. If something happens to their prisoner, then they are automatically guilty of the harm that came to them. The only thing that's in dispute is how it happened, but again, that's only in dispute because they have zero accountability and nobody has any way of knowing except for the just-so stories that come from the people who were responsible for the prisoner's well-being.

I seem to recall AF posting some piece of legislation or a court decision demonstrating this to be false a number of months ago. Am I mistaken, AF? We have certainly had a number of discussions proving that cops have no legal responsibility to protect/serve.

 

[donnay]

Prisoner who rode with Freddie Gray speaks out to contradict police claim he was 'intentionall

Prisoner who rode with Freddie Gray speaks out to contradict police claim he was 'intentionally trying to injure himself'

By Kieran Corcoran

The prisoner who was in the police van with Freddie Gray before his death has spoken out to contradict claims by investigators that Gray was trying to injure himself.

Donte Allen, 22, was next to Gray after he too was arrested on April 12 - but was kept in a separate part of the vehicle and separated from his fellow prisoner by a solid partition.

A Baltimore police report leaked to the Washington Post earlier this week quoted Allen as saying that Gray was 'intentionally trying to injure himself' by bashing his head on the police van.

But Allen is disputing that version of events - and saying he heard only 'little banging' for about four seconds before Gray went quiet.

His new statements cut across earlier police claims that Gray, and not them, are responsible for his injuries and subsequent death.

Continued...

 

[Carlybee]

Well, I've seen hint of this topic on a few other threads and I guess I'd like to know what is the feeling here on driving drunk. yes, I am 100% against that, as for checkpoints never had them and don't know any city that did, not sure that many places do, I've never ran into one in any state, city or town I've ever been to, but no, I do not support checkpoints. At our jail people were only made to give blood after refusing a breathalyzer and failing the usual tests (walking a straight line, etc)

Obviously no, I don't feel strapping people down is preferable in any society, however I don't think getting drunk and operating an automobile is a right or some example of liberty and freedom. Can you operate a firearm in an improper manner? Walking down the street firing randomly, not a crime till someone gets hit right?

I accidentally saw some car wreck photos at the station involving a drunk who was driving on the wrong side of the freeway, had a bloody baby seat in it, a site I wish I had never seen, you'll be happy to know the drunk lived, yah liberty! Can't think of one logical argument for drunk driving.

It's not illegal to drink and drive. It's illegal to be over the legal limit. If you have one beer and refuse a breathalyzer you are automatically arrested and subject to a blood draw. You are guilty until proven otherwise. Not all people who get DWIs are drunk which is what you seem to be implying.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I seem to recall AF posting some piece of legislation or a court decision demonstrating this to be false a number of months ago. Am I mistaken, AF? We have certainly had a number of discussions proving that cops have no legal responsibility to protect/serve.

Yeah yeah yeah...I recall that as well...damn it...having a CRS moment.

IIRC it revolved around a women who died in police custody in a puddle of blood and piss on a jailhouse floor after others in the cell were screaming for her to get medical attention.

The court ruled that the cops had no legal responsibilty for her well being.

 

[HankRicther12]

It's not illegal to drink and drive. It's illegal to be over the legal limit. If you have one beer and refuse a breathalyzer you are automatically arrested and subject to a blood draw. You are guilty until proven otherwise. Not all people who get DWIs are drunk which is what you seem to be implying.

You once again display your childishness with your first sentence, you know what I meant. No one goes to jail for one beer, and I'm sure the percentage of people who are even asked to take a breathalyzer after one beer is so rare it's astronomical. Just give it up already. Let me guess, you got wasted drunk, got busted, and now you are sore at the cops for your irresponsibility and all the trouble you got in, am I close, if not that, some other situation which was likely 100% you're fault, but hey, don't blame yourself when you can blame someone else.

 

[HankRicther12]

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2015/0...s-result-of-police-who-arrested-him-prob.html

Nice, but it will fall on deaf ears, so many here are convinced his neck was broke before he went in the van, I bet they still believe Mike Brown is a gentle giant and had his hands up.

 

[AuH20]

Nice, but it will fall on deaf ears, so many here are convinced his neck was broke before he went in the van, I bet they still believe Mike Brown is a gentle giant and had his hands up.

I'm not taking a side. I want to know what happened. It probably was cop malfeasance, but you never know.

 

[HankRicther12]

No, but I can think of plenty that support abolishing drunk driving laws.

Start here:

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?264647-Eliminate-Drunk-Driving-laws

I don't agree with BAC thing myself, first off because I think it is absurdly low, 2nd because I think the coordination tests tell a better story. I'm not interested in arresting anyone who had a few beers while working on a buddy's car then headed home.