Who exactly are these people commenting on Amash's Facebook?

[MelissaWV]

What's wrong with not supporting the troops? I don't support them. Ron Paul railed against the universal soldiers before, which is what most of them are.

Please reread Amash's statement. It says nothing about supporting all of the troops. It does talk, specifically, about honoring those who died to uphold the right things. If you don't think any of them did, then he means no one. If you think they're all heroes defending our rights, then he means everyone. If you're able to see that he's only referring to a specific set of circumstances, and not blanketly saying he "supports the troops," then you have at least average reading comprehension

 

[jj-]

Please reread our exchange.

Please reread my post. Pay more attention this time. I won't explain myself any further.

 

[MelissaWV]

Please reread my post. Pay more attention this time. I won't explain myself any further.

I did. It still reads like you're asserting they are paid Romneybots, with no evidence.

 

[evilfunnystuff]

I'm sorry, but using that as a constant excuse only paints the person doing it as ignorant.

Maybe at face value, but it would be foolish to think folks of opposing political stripes aren't undercover among us. Some of them don't really even give a hoot politically, and are simply in it for the luls. There are also surely cointelpro to consider...

Now, that is not to say none of this is done by "our guys" but we need to recognize they do try to stir dissent and sow division amongst us, and when there is a disagreement in the movement they will surely be in the middle of it spewing venom in every direction.

 

[jj-]

I did. It still reads like you're asserting they are paid Romneybots, with no evidence.

Oh well. If that's what you got, I guess our minds operate at different frequencies. I gave it a try.

 

[MelissaWV]

Oh well. If that's what you got, I guess our minds operate at different frequencies. I gave it a try.

"Paid Romneybots." <- Which part of this does NOT read like you are asserting they are paid Romneybots? Is it "Paid" or "Romneybots"? lol

Now, that is not to say none of this is done by "our guys" but we need to recognize they do try to stir dissent and sow division amongst us, and when there is a disagreement in the movement they will surely be in the middle of it spewing venom in every direction.

^ It's always good to know there are still some good thoughts among us

 

[phx420]

when i was at the az state convention i met a loner paul supporter, kind of an older scary guy i was uncomfortable talking to him, who told me about various threatening calls he made to whoever for supporting whatever, and that he did it regularly.... i really get the feeling based on the way we are being treated that he's not the only one

 

[jj-]

"Paid Romneybots." <- Which part of this does NOT read like you are asserting they are paid Romneybots? Is it "Paid" or "Romneybots"? lol

The post I told you to read was the following one. You couldn't be more obtuse if you tried.

 

[MelissaWV]

Please reread our exchange. I was not the one who made an assertion. You stated they were "paid Romneybots," to which I responded that using this excuse every time makes folks look absolutely naive and stupid. You've now turned this around to make it seem like I was stating 100% that these were absolutely not possibly in any way, shape, or form hired trolls. It's possible, but given what I've run into over the past five years, it doesn't seem necessary or likely.

Please reread my post. Pay more attention this time. I won't explain myself any further.

The post I told you to read was the following one. You couldn't be more obtuse if you tried.

My humble apologies on not being able to read your mind and determine which post you wanted me to read, when you didn't TELL ME which one it was you were referring to. Oddly, I did include references to the post that I was talking about. You didn't really seem to refute it very well.

 

[jj-]

My humble apologies on not being able to read your mind and determine which post you wanted me to read, when you didn't TELL ME which one it was you were referring to.

Because you were already quoting my post. Also, it wouldn't make sense to ask you to reread a post of mine that had two words. The fact that you didn't get that (leaving aside your attitude) already shows me talking to you is a waste of time.

 

[MelissaWV]

Because you were already quoting my post. Also, it wouldn't make sense to ask you to reread a post of mine that had two words. The fact that you didn't get that (leaving aside your attitude) already shows me talking to you is a waste of time.

If a post of two words doesn't count as a post, then don't make it

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Anyhow, the people commenting on his FB don't strike me as all that different from the people on here, or those making excuses for them.

 

[jj-]

If a post of two words doesn't count as a post, then don't make it

A post of two words doesn't require rereading it. Geez.

I'll highlight the key contextual word:

wouldn't make sense to ask you to reread a post of mine that had two words.

Good luck in life.

 

[Brett85]

Unfortunately, I've even seen a lot of similar comments posted on this forum. There's some people who believe that you can't support the troops if you oppose the wars. I'm strongly opposed to that point of view, because that's basically the line the neo-con's use. I don't see why any libertarians would want to agree with the neo-cons on that.

 

[Brett85]

What's wrong with not supporting the troops? I don't support them. Ron Paul railed against the universal soldiers before, which is what most of them are.

^^^Thanks for giving an example of the kind of people we're talking about in this thread.

 

[angelatc]

when i was at the az state convention i met a loner paul supporter, kind of an older scary guy i was uncomfortable talking to him, who told me about various threatening calls he made to whoever for supporting whatever, and that he did it regularly.... i really get the feeling based on the way we are being treated that he's not the only one

I've never told this story before, but I did some volunteer accounting and reporting for one of our higher profile liberty candidates. I started getting emails and phone calls from a guy that were at first just political in nature ("Why are you working for him?"), and in the end really, really scary (You're a traitor, and traitors get shot in the head.") Turns out he was a fucking soldier, contacting me from a fucking military base right here in the States. My husband, also a vet, called the base commander and that was the last I heard from him.

So, while it's true that we shouldn't act that way, and we should absolutely tell our friends to tone it down when they're out of line, I no longer believe that we're the only faction of the GOP that has a loony bin contingent.

 

[Spoa]

Even Ron Paul honors our troops:

This Memorial Day, let us remember those who have fallen in the defense of the freest, most prosperous nation the world has ever known. We salute you.

And Rand Paul too:

Please take a moment today to think about and reflect upon the sacrifices made in our name. To all those who made the ultimate sacrifice, we honor your memory.

"Cover them over with beautiful flowers,
Deck them with garlands, those brothers of ours,
Lying so silent by night and by day
Sleeping the years of their manhood away.
Give them the meed they have won in the past;
Give them the honors their future forcast;
Give them the chaplets they won in the strife;
Give them the laurels they lost with their life." -- Will Carleton

Even people opposed to all these foreign wars can support our troops. If you can't honor those who have died for your freedom, with all due respect, I don't think you truly deserve those freedoms. These men and women gave their lives fighting so you could enjoy America, while some people attack these good people. May God Bless America. Thank you.

 

[Spoa]

Also, we should thank Captain Ron Paul, Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski, Veteran Kerry Bentivolio, and all other veterans who have fought for our country!

 

[MelissaWV]

Yes, but if you read the quotes carefully, they are not part of the hero worship, either.

I think those are beautifully-worded and very accurate sentiments. Those that have fallen to defend our nation, and those who've made the ultimate sacrifice for us, need not be soldiers at all, and are deserving of as much reflection and honor as we can give them.

 

[jj-]

I no longer believe that we're the only faction of the GOP that has a loony bin contingent.

I'd go further, I'd say we are the sanest faction. As long as the other guys keep winning, they'll act respectable. As soon as they lose, you'll see then become crazy and nasty.

 

[jj-]

If you can't honor those who have died for your freedom, with all due respect, I don't think you truly deserve those freedoms.

It seems to me that the last war for freedom was probably WWII. Is there a reason to honor those who came after them?