Right-Wing Obtuseness on Immigration

[Toomer Deplorable]

The error in his logic, though, is that he's talking about a "natural" movement of people - not an "artificial" one.

Exactly.

This is why Murray Rothbard came to oppose open borders: in a Welfare State, unfettered immigration amounts to little more than a government subsidized agenda to transform the voting demographics of a nation-state.

Open Borders, or the “Camp of-the Saints” Problem...

“...The question of open borders, or free immigration, has become an accelerating problem for classical liberals. This is first, because the welfare state increasingly subsidizes immigrants to enter and receive permanent assistance, and second, because cultural boundaries have become increasingly swamped. I began to rethink my views on immigration when, as the Soviet Union collapsed, it became clear that ethnic Russians had been encouraged to flood into Estonia and Latvia in order to destroy the cultures and languages of these peoples.

Previously, it had been easy to dismiss as unrealistic Jean Raspail's anti-immigration novel The Camp of the Saints, in which virtually the entire population of India decides to move, in small boats, into France, and the French, infected by liberal ideology, cannot summon the will to prevent economic and cultural national destruction. As cultural and welfare-state problems have intensified, it became impossible to dismiss Raspail's concerns any longer.”

Murray Rothbard: Nations By Consent.

 

[Toomer Deplorable]

It's artificial migration that causes us all the issues. And to open the flood gates without addressing the artificiality of it first, is just dumb.

 

[unknown]

Dude seems like a straight socialist.

From the article:

"There is another factor to consider: People who are welfare-oriented are not the type of people who are going to pick up stakes and leave home, family, friends, language, and culture to go to a country where they are going to get insulted, abused, and humiliated, especially if welfare payments are not immediately available."

"And even if some of the welfare-oriented types do decide to come, the economic prosperity produced by the 99 percent who are trying to get rich will undoubtedly produce the tax revenues to sustain the 1 percent who are coming to get on welfare."

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[unknown]

He makes some good points but freedom of movement requires an entire system based on freedom.

We're very far from that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Dude seems like a straight socialist.

From the article:

"There is another factor to consider: People who are welfare-oriented are not the type of people who are going to pick up stakes and leave home, family, friends, language, and culture to go to a country where they are going to get insulted, abused, and humiliated, especially if welfare payments are not immediately available."

"And even if some of the welfare-oriented types do decide to come, the economic prosperity produced by the 99 percent who are trying to get rich will undoubtedly produce the tax revenues to sustain the 1 percent who are coming to get on welfare."

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He's a liar and a globalist shill.
He knows he's lying, just like other people I won't name here.