Watch KET/CSPAN Debate

[Matt Collins]

Rand did terrible in this debate. He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe. Typical politician BS that makes me not even really care if he loses.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.


(serious)

You should look at the platform that Ron ran on when he first ran for Congress. I suspect you probably would'nt have voted for him either at the time. Just sayin'

 

[specsaregood]

I don't care what it takes. If he needs to lie, so be it. The other side does it all the time, and that's why they win.

Example A:
YouTube - McCain TV Ad: "Complete The Danged Fence"

 

[Brett85]

Rand did terrible in this debate. He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe. Typical politician BS that makes me not even really care if he loses.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.


(serious)

Right. He could just come out and say that Iran isn't a threat and get 10% of the vote in the primary. That's a good strategy.

 

[obijuan]

Rand did terrible in this debate.

It was his worst performance in the debates so far to be sure, but it was far from terrible.

He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe.

His point about intellectual dishonesty is that when you take a quote out of context and draw your own conclusions, you paint him as a flip-flopper. The quote "Our national security is not threatened by Iran having one nuclear weapon" has been used to imply that Rand isn't concerned about a nuclear Iran, which is false. I think his point was rather that we shouldn't invade over Iran having a nuclear weapon -- that the threat of a nuclear Iran does not justify a preemptive war.

It's really hard to communicate that in fifteen seconds. I do wish he'd be clearer on it, and I'm sure he wishes the soundbite wasn't out there, because there's a huge difference between his point and the soundbite.

I dunno, really...the problem is that any well-reasoned and nuanced position will get you killed in politics.

Reporter: "If Iran has a single nuclear weapon, is our national security threatened?"

Candidate: "No, not in that very specific case."

Reporter: "Wow, you support a nuclear Iran!"

Candidate: "No, that's neither what I said nor what I mean. My point is..."

Reporter: "And that's all the time we have!"

Drives me crazy.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.

Trey comes across as a smarmy douchenozzle who's more concerned about "scoring points" than fixing the very real problems our nation faces.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Rand did terrible in this debate. He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe. Typical politician BS that makes me not even really care if he loses.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.


(serious)

YouTube - billy madison - insanely idiotic

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

Some of you do not understand how elections work

If Rand stood up and listed off all the libertarian talking points, he would get about 5% of the vote. That's why I left the LP - because they simply do not understand how to appeal to mainstream voters

There's a smart way to approach politics without abandoning your principles...and there is a wrong way which involves loudly proclaiming that you want to legalize drugs, dismantle 95% of the federal government, etc.

I trust Rand/David Adams more than I trust delusional keyboard warriors on RPF who clearly have not followed the race until right now

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I just realized what it was.... there was no audience there!

I thought they were holding it at a nursery, due to the toddlers making noise in the background.