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Age requirement? But Carey is above 35 (or whatever age limit there is)? I don't know how old you are, I just didn't think you were a youngster :)
 

Come on Matt, 1930s?

"Not a single federal law was ruled unconstitutional by the U.S. Supreme Court (under ICC auspices) since the 1930s, per the Hamilton-Adams John Marshall legacy" is the complete answer...

and Ron would have delivered some such backup, as he's a historical adept, as we know.

Maybe Rand is deeper than that and is keeping it simple and brief, I hope that he is.
 
Age requirement? But Carey is above 35 (or whatever age limit there is)? I don't know how old you are, I just didn't think you were a youngster :)

The Collins said a couple of months ago that his age is 27 or 28 (I forgot which). So he wouldn't be 35 by 2014.

EDIT: You only have to be 30 to run for Senate, Matt. It's 35 for President.
 
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Rand always looks tired. But you know what? At least it's a genuine look. He's tired 'cause he works his ass off, and he's combating Grayson's $3 million smear campaign by getting out in person to as many voters as possible.

Rand is gonna be pretty tired when he's a senator too. He's gonna be pulling late nights in the senate filibustering the crap out of bills and using his platform as Senator to spread his message as tirelessly as his father spreads his.

Rand is genuine, and you can see it unmistakably right on his face. That's what matters, and people can see that. I met Rand the night he formally announced his Senate run. He looked tired then too. I think that's just who he is, he's the dogged warrior who's always tired-looking because he's always fighting.

On an unrelated note, I think I actually hate Stephenson more than Grayson after tonight's debate. What an arrogant, holier-than-thou, long-winded, pompous excuse for a conservative candidate. And he basically admitted as much, saying he was a Democrat but switched because of the abortion issue and seemingly holds mostly liberal values on every other issue.
 
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Oh, that's too bad... anyway we could ask Gurley? :) Just kidding. I'd support Johnson over McConnell though.
 
Rand always looks tired. But you know what? At least it's a genuine look. He's tired 'cause he works his ass off, and he's combating Grayson's $3 million smear campaign by getting out in person to as many voters as possible.

This can't be said enough.
FROM TODAY
Rand on radioTime: 11:00 AM
Rand will be a guest on Sue Wylie's talk radio show on WVLK AM 590 in Lexington starting at 11am ET. at 11:00 AM

Rand in LexingtonTime: 2:00 PM
Rand will join supporters at The Racquet Club clubhouse, 3900 Crosby Drive, Lexington at 2pm ET. at 2:00 PM

Rand On Fox News Neil CavutoTime: 4:40 PM
Rand Paul will appear on Fox News Channel's "Your World With Neil Cavuto" program today around 4:42 pm ET. at 4:40 PM

Rand in LexingtonTime: 5:30 PM
Rand Paul will be at Malones, 3347 Tates Creek Road in Lexington at 5:30 pm ET. at 5:30 PM

Rand on KET
Time: 8:00 PM
Dr. Paul will be on KET Kentucky Tonight. at 8:00 PM
 
You know Stephenson may take a few votes away from Grayson. ;) He appeals to the social conservatives.
 
You're perceptions are skewed by being on rpf my friend. Most people don't give a shit who wins, never mind watching the debates.

No, this race is getting national coverage, that is why CSPAN was covering this debate. I wish they'd covered an earlier one, instead, is all.
 
Rand is a much better debater than Ron is. In the debates, the moderater would ask Ron a question about taxes or health care, and he would start talking about how we need to get out of Iraq. Not very smart in a Republican primary.

If he had been trying to win, but he was running IN ORDER to talk about Iraq and the dollar crises. He worked it towards the topic he wanted to address.
 
Both Ron and Rand are good. Ron inspired the entire movement, Rand is trying to win an important senate seat. Please stop trying to find something in which one is better than the other and realize that both are contributing to the liberty movement in their own way.
 
Rand did good, I felt much re-assured in my support after watching him. I had never actually seen him speak before.

But I gotta say, I was pretty impressed by John Stephenson as well.
 
Rand did good, I felt much re-assured in my support after watching him. I had never actually seen him speak before.

But I gotta say, I was pretty impressed by John Stephenson as well.
Stephenson is a pro-life democrat. If u like him at all you should hate Rand. Liking he and Rand at the same time makes absolutely zero sense.
 
I just realized what it was.... there was no audience there! That is why things seemed a bit odd and Treyson was a bit edgier than normal!
 
Rand did terrible in this debate. He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe. Typical politician BS that makes me not even really care if he loses.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.


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Is it bad that I would strongly consider voting for Gurley Martin over Rand if I were a Kentuckian? He's more of a Ron Paul Republican than Rand is.

Seriously, I don't understand why so many people support Rand here. Just because he's the son of the Godfather doesn't make him anything like his father.

Hate to say it but - TRUTH!

I wouldn't consider voting for Gurley - he's polling at 2% vs Rand's 48% but his message does resonate. He also is running an educational / vanity campaign. He has no intent to win. I was briefly considering donating to him, as anyone that likes him is going to find Rand a more practical / realistic second choice over the other 2, but he doesn't seem to be doing anything to promote his ideas.

I really like that he won't accept donations over $50 and that he's calling for a constitutional amendment to make any bill over 47 pages unconstitutional and unworthy of consideration. I'd pay a few bucks to spread ideas like that!

btw: I do generally like Rand's platform and have donated to him multiple times.

-t
 
Rand did terrible in this debate. He is a liar, and a bad one at that. Listening to him tying to make his "iran threat" flip flop not a flip flop made me cringe. Typical politician BS that makes me not even really care if he loses.

On the other hand Trey comes across as very likable and reasonable.


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Wow. You guys need to understand Rand is in this to win. He is doing what it takes to win. If flip-flopping is what it takes, I don't care if he does it. Some of the supporters appear to be happier losing, than have a liberty candidate actually play the politics game. I don't care what it takes. If he needs to lie, so be it. The other side does it all the time, and that's why they win.
 
Wow. You guys need to understand Rand is in this to win. He is doing what it takes to win. If flip-flopping is what it takes, I don't care if he does it. Some of the supporters appear to be happier losing, than have a liberty candidate actually play the politics game. I don't care what it takes. If he needs to lie, so be it. The other side does it all the time, and that's why they win.

They dont undestand that. It doesn matter how many times theyre reminded of the political REALITY, they want a pure campaign and no chance of winning instead of a compromised campaign and a chance of winning. Pretty f'ing dumb on their part really. They'll shoot off their own nose to spite their face. F'em.
 
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