Trump's Hate Speech Will Get You Deported EO

You are arguing like a far left district court judge looking to make up any excuse to oppose Trump and presuming to decree what he should be doing instead of what he is doing.

No, what I'm telling you is her actual chargeable offenses are misdemeanors beyond minor. You're the one acting like a Soros judge, specifically the ones who called J6 a riot. That wasn't a riot, and this wasn't either.

The obvious reason she didn't stay under Trump's radar was the criticism of Israel. Obviously.
 
No, what I'm telling you is her actual chargeable offenses are misdemeanors beyond minor. You're the one acting like a Soros judge, specifically the ones who called J6 a riot. That wasn't a riot, and this wasn't either.

The obvious reason she didn't stay under Trump's radar was the criticism of Israel. Obviously.
Where did I say they were felonies? (and I could debate your assertion that they are not but I don't care to)

She could be deported for jaywalking.

The reason she's being deported is for committing crimes as part of a movement to destroy America and interfere in American politics.
 
Where did I say they were felonies? (and I could debate your assertion that they are not but I don't care to)

You didn't. You defended spending resources to deport her that could have been deployed to Aurora, CO.

And I made no such assertion. Quite the opposite. Are you illiterate as a dog, or a lying dog?
 
You didn't. You defended spending resources to deport her that could have been deployed to Aurora, CO.
You pretended I did say they were, and I do defend using the resources to deport since he is also going after the guys in Aurora and has deported many of them (with you being on the bandwagon to demand they should all get years of individual court hearings to resist) and because cracking down on the campus riots by enemy foreigners is important for America too.
 
(with you being on the bandwagon to demand they should all get years of individual court hearings to resist)

More lies. Quote me disagreeing with the statement made earlier that due process does not require court action or apologize to everyone for lying like a dog.
 
More lies. Quote me disagreeing with the statement made earlier that due process does not require court action or apologize to everyone for lying like a dog.
Since this was in a different thread:

It's weird you assume you can read my mind. I didn't say that, either. You're still trying to distract from the fact that somebody was talking about zero due process, and you are trying to defend that stupid decision by saying when they said due process they meant in court, but due process doesn't require a court.

Which isn't working. Just so you know.

Yes, bleating. Keep saying it: Four legs good, two legs better!
I know you are hiding behind this, but Due Process does indeed mean court hearings, everyone knows that and it's what the left is demanding.
I also told you that they do check to make sure that they are citizens or not, and you claim that what is done is not enough.
You are pushing the left's "due process" talking point with full knowledge that it means court hearings but trying to pretend it doesn't.
There is no more "due process" to give them that they don't already get other than court hearings.
 
Trump's Esther EO...


Arguably Project 2025 of the Heritage Foundation is the blueprint for the Trump II administration.
The related Heritage Foundation’s Project Esther describes how to combat the pro-Palestine protests, by first dubbing it part of the “Hamas Support Network” which essentially makes any criticising of Israel a “terrorist” act of anti-Semitism.
Or once again “saving freedom” by taking away freedom (of course): https://archive.is/qj1sU


In line with Project Esther, Trump’s health secretary RFK Jr. has described antisemitism as a “deadly and virulent pestilence”, which essentially makes criticising Israel a health emergency: https://archive.is/EKgCY
 
Trump's Esther EO...


Arguably Project 2025 of the Heritage Foundation is the blueprint for the Trump II administration.
The related Heritage Foundation’s Project Esther describes how to combat the pro-Palestine protests, by first dubbing it part of the “Hamas Support Network” which essentially makes any criticising of Israel a “terrorist” act of anti-Semitism.
Or once again “saving freedom” by taking away freedom (of course): https://archive.is/qj1sU


In line with Project Esther, Trump’s health secretary RFK Jr. has described antisemitism as a “deadly and virulent pestilence”, which essentially makes criticising Israel a health emergency: https://archive.is/EKgCY
Pretending they aren't criminals and terrorists when we have the proof they are and they go around shouting about it will get you nowhere.
 
Pretending they aren't criminals and terrorists when we have the proof they are and they go around shouting about it will get you nowhere.

Let's set aside the question of whether you've ever demonstrated enough knowledge about the Palestinians to judge them. Since you yet again demonstrated your fascination with pronouns and your aversion to nouns when you pick subjects for your sentences, this gives us a fine opportunity to examine your "principles" and see if you always stand by them.

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Remind me not to bother thinking up intelligent ways to rebut you any more. Now I have a quote of your very own to throw in your face whenever you're being a hypocrite. And that's why you should have learned to start your sentences with nouns. I know you like to claim you meant something else when you're getting pwned, and pronouns help you do that, but here's the drawback.
 
Pretending they aren't criminals and terrorists when we have the proof they are and they go around shouting about it will get you nowhere.

This is 100% about criticism of Izrael.

A complete dismantling and usurpation of the First Amendment to protect a foreign enemy State, which has hijacked this country.

 
Pretending they aren't criminals and terrorists when we have the proof they are and they go around shouting about it will get you nowhere.
Here's the op-ed that is Trump's reason for deporting Rumeysa Oztürk.

What in this op-ed is something a person in the US on any kind of visa should get deported for saying?

On March 4, the Tufts Community Union Senate passed 3 out of 4 resolutions demanding that the University acknowledge the Palestinian genocide, apologize for University President Sunil Kumar’s statements, disclose its investments and divest from companies with direct or indirect ties to Israel. These resolutions were the product of meaningful debate by the Senate and represent a sincere effort to hold Israel accountable for clear violations of international law. Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide.

Unfortunately, the University’s response to the Senate resolutions has been wholly inadequate and dismissive of the Senate, the collective voice of the student body. Graduate Students for Palestine joins Tufts Students for Justice in Palestine, the Tufts Faculty and Staff Coalition for Ceasefire and Fletcher Students for Palestine to reject the University’s response. Although graduate students were not allowed by the University into the Senate meeting, which lasted for almost eight hours, our presence on campus and financial entanglement with the University via tuition payments and the graduate work that we do on grants and research makes us direct stakeholders in the University’s stance.

While an argument may be made that the University should not take political stances and should focus on research and intellectual exchange, the automatic rejection, dismissive nature and condescending tone in the University’s statement have caused us to question whether the University is indeed taking a stand against its own declared commitments to free speech, assembly and democratic expression. According to the Student Code of Conduct, “[a]ctive citizenship, including exercising free speech and engaging in protests, gatherings, and demonstrations, is a vital part of the Tufts community.” In addition, the Dean of Students Office has written, “[w]hile at times the exchange of controversial ideas and opinions may cause discomfort or even distress, our mission as a university is to promote critical thinking, the rigorous examination and discussion of facts and theories, and diverse and sometimes contradictory ideas and opinions.” Why then is the University discrediting and disregarding its students who practice the very ideals of critical thinking, intellectual exchange and civic engagement that Tufts claims to represent?

The role of the TCU Senate resolutions is abundantly clear. The Senate’s resolutions serve as a “strong lobbying tool that expresses to the Tufts administration the wants and needs of the student body. They speak as a collective voice and are instrumental in enacting systemic changes.” In this case, the “systemic changes” that the collective voice of the student body is calling for are for the University to end its complicity with Israel insofar as it is oppressing the Palestinian people and denying their right to self-determination — a right that is guaranteed by international law. These strong lobbying tools are all the more urgent now given the order by the International Court of Justice confirming that the Palestinian people of Gaza’s rights under the Genocide Convention are under a “plausible” risk of being breached.

This collective student voice is not without precedent. Today, the University may remember with pride its decision in February 1989 to divest from South Africa under apartheid and end its complicity with the then-racist regime. However, we must remember that the University divested up to 11 years after some of its peers. For instance, the Michigan State University Board of Regents passed resolutions to end its complicity with Apartheid South Africa as early as 1978. Had Tufts heeded the call of the student movement in the late 1970s, the University could have been on the right side of history sooner.

We reject any attempt by the University or the Office of the President to summarily dismiss the role of the Senate and mischaracterize its resolution as divisive. The open and free debate demonstrated by the Senate process (exemplified by the length, open notice and substantive exchange in the proceedings and the non-passing of one of the proposed resolutions), together with the serious organizing efforts of students, warrant credible self-reflection by the Office of the President and the University. We, as graduate students, affirm the equal dignity and humanity of all people and reject the University’s mischaracterization of the Senate’s efforts.

The great author and civil rights champion James Baldwin once wrote: “The paradox of education is precisely this: that as one begins to become conscious one begins to examine the society in which [they are] being educated.” As an educator, President Kumar should embrace efforts by students to evaluate “diverse and sometimes contradictory ideas and opinions.” Furthermore, the president should trust in the Senate’s rigorous and democratic process and the resolutions that it has achieved.

We urge President Kumar and the Tufts administration to meaningfully engage with and actualize the resolutions passed by the Senate.

This op-ed was written by Nick Ambeliotis (CEE, ‘25), Fatima Rahman (STEM Education, ‘27), Genesis Perez (English, ‘27) and Rumeysa Ozturk (CSHD, ‘25) and is endorsed by 32 other Tufts School of Engineering and Arts and Sciences Graduate Students.

 
Here's the op-ed that is Trump's reason for deporting Rumeysa Oztürk.

What in this op-ed is something a person in the US on any kind of visa should get deported for saying?




A student visa doesn't award you with a right to be here it's a privilege.

It's the same reason why we would have never allowed Soviet Communists to come here during the Cold War with the Soviet Union go to our schools and promote communist ideas or ideas that would provoke people to be turned against the United States and try to destroy the United States or give away our secrets.

This sort of activity of course common but we would stop it whenever they saw it. They would tell you the communists ate really good even better than us even after 10s of million starved.
 
A student visa doesn't award you with a right to be here it's a privilege.

It's the same reason why we would have never allowed Soviet Communists to come here during the Cold War with the Soviet Union go to our schools and promote communist ideas or ideas that would provoke people to be turned against the United States and try to destroy the United States or give away our secrets.

This sort of activity of course common but we would stop it whenever they saw it. They would tell you the communists ate really good even better than us even after 10s of million starved.

So what if it's a privilege? Nothing I said presupposed that staying here on a student visa was a right. Can you answer the question I asked?

You say "this sort of activity." What sort of activity is that? Can you quote the part of the op-ed that you're referring to?
 
So what if it's a privilege? Nothing I said presupposed that staying here on a student visa was a right. Can you answer the question I asked?

You say "this sort of activity." What sort of activity is that? Can you quote the part of the op-ed that you're referring to?

You know which part. The part where she wrote an Op Ed that says.


“Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide,”


These accusations sow distrust in our political institutions and our own law enforcement.
 
You know which part. The part where she wrote an Op Ed that says.


“Credible accusations against Israel include accounts of deliberate starvation and indiscriminate slaughter of Palestinian civilians and plausible genocide,”


These accusations sow distrust in our political institutions and our own law enforcement.
No, I actually did not know which part. And I find it odd that you would quote that line and make the claim that you do about it. I can't see how you reach your conclusion. But let's suppose you were right and that the words written in this op-ed "sow distrust in our political institutions and our own law enforcement." In this case, then when the response to someone who expresses this opinion is to deport them just for expressing it, the fact that the federal government responds this way serves to sow distrust in our political institutions and law enforcement far more than the op-ed itself could have done.

Edit: On the other hand, in my opinion, sowing distrust in our political institutions and law enforcement is a good thing that we need more of. So I'm all for that as a goal, and if someone here on a student visa were helping to advance this cause, that would be a reason to keep them here and encourage them to do more of it, not to deport them. I just don't think that advancing this cause by way of the government actually behaving even more malevolently than it already has been behaving, which is what deporting people for expressing their opinions does, is a good way to do it.
 
No, I actually did not know which part. And I find it odd that you would quote that line and make the claim that you do about it. I can't see how you reach your conclusion. But let's suppose you were right and that the words written in this op-ed "sow distrust in our political institutions and our own law enforcement." In this case, then when the response to someone who expresses this opinion is to deport them just for expressing it, does the fact that the federal government responds this way serves to sow distrust in our political institutions and law enforcement far more than the op-ed itself could have done.

If you throw an arsonist in jail after they start a lot of fires are you sowing distrust in our fire departments ability to fight fires?

I think maybe if the media covers it maybe it will prevent other people from being arsonists and maybe it will prevent fires before they get started.

It sucks that we have to throw anyone out of our country but if you don't fight against 5th generation warfare people end up getting hurt and an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.

That being said nothing she wrote is a dog whistle yet everything she said is a dog whistle.

She is smart enough to know what she was saying. She was considered an intellectual authority with influence.
 
I nearly voted for Trump this time. Deporting people for Israel, trying to purge Massie, continuing to fund Ukraine, ethnic cleansing in Gaza, and now a possible war with Iran.

What a walking disaster.
 
A student visa doesn't award you with a right to be here it's a privilege.

It's the same reason why we would have never allowed Soviet Communists to come here during the Cold War with the Soviet Union go to our schools and promote communist ideas or ideas that would provoke people to be turned against the United States and try to destroy the United States or give away our secrets.

This sort of activity of course common but we would stop it whenever they saw it. They would tell you the communists ate really good even better than us even after 10s of million starved.

These people are here legally, even if they're not citizens.

And they're being deported for criticizing Izrael.

Fuck Izrael.
 
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