This movement needs to be more tolerant...

Yes I agree.

I have been in this forum for quite a while now.. I am fully supportive of Ron Paul and really support educating people as t what is going on.

Fully supportive does NOT mean agree with every point. The following issues are important to some here:

The war
Monetary policy
The Federal Reserve
The IRS
End the drug war

The problem is not everyone here is going to agree with everyone else.

Ron Paul seems to believe in LIBERTY which means I have liberty too an you should not be taking my liberty either or calling me names because I believe differently than you.

Some in this movementneeds to GROW UP and learn to win people over and persuade people with facts.

Calling people with differing opinions names is NOT going to help your cause.

Thanks,

:)

I agree wholeheartedly.
 
Originally Posted by EndTheFed
I have been in this forum for quite a while now.. I am fully supportive of Ron Paul and really support educating people as t what is going on.

Fully supportive does NOT mean agree with every point. The following issues are important to some here:

The war
Monetary policy
The Federal Reserve
The IRS
End the drug war

The problem is not everyone here is going to agree with everyone else.

Ron Paul seems to believe in LIBERTY which means I have liberty too an you should not be taking my liberty either or calling me names because I believe differently than you.

Some in this movementneeds to GROW UP and learn to win people over and persuade people with facts.

Calling people with differing opinions names is NOT going to help your cause.

Thanks,
I agree wholeheartedly.


This post itself is name calling, e.g. "GROW UP", etc.

It is also extremely condescending.

How rude is it to be 'new to the neighborhood', and immediately begin casting this kind of holier than thou judgement to the whole group?

If you have a specific beef with another poster, take it up with them, but don't impugn the movement. Stop and ask them why they responded the way they did. There just might be a really, really good reason.

The media has been doing this continually, trying to paint this movement as just a bunch of crazy violent troublemakers.

Get the log out of your own eye before you start going after others splinters.
 
Post your sources. Liar.

Paulin is pro gun. And so is mccain. In fact obama tried to ban hand guns.

McCain favors outlawing cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials, and favors mandating safety locks on certain guns. He said he is intrigued by new technology that electronically identifies a person handling a gun, allowing only the owner to fire it. McCain rallied Senate Republicans behind a Democratic measure requiring background checks at gun shows.
Source: Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press Aug 17, 1999

McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details.
Source: Los Angeles Times, “McCain Calls for Hearings” Aug 17, 1999

McCain spoke generally of the need for some tighter gun controls on hardened criminals and children. In Congress, he pressured his colleagues to require background checks for buyers at guns shows, and he supported a requirement that trigger locks be sold with handguns.
Source: Todd S. Purdum, New York Times, p. A14 Aug 17, 1999

Vote to table or kill a motion to require that all gun sales at gun shows be completed by federally licensed gun dealers. The amendment also requires background checks to be completed on buyers and requires gun show promoters to register with the Treasur
Bill S.254 ; vote number 1999-111 on May 11, 1999

McCain has introduced the “Youth Violence Prevention Act.”
The legislation would:
prevent juveniles from illegal access to weapons and punish those who would assist them in doing so
prohibit juveniles who commit acts of gun violence from purchasing guns in the future
sentence juveniles convicted of violent crimes under adult guidelines
and punish juveniles who illegally carry or use handguns in schools.
Source: www.mccain2000.com/ “Press Releases” May 10, 1999

Then again, McCain has voted against gun control on several other occassions. Seems like he's mixed in his stance, sometimes saying yes, sometimes no...whatever's politically expediant at the time. Saying he's "pro-guns" however, is quite a stretch.
 
McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details.
Source: Los Angeles Times, “McCain Calls for Hearings” Aug 17, 1999

The type that would vote for mccain fear "people like you" owning an 'assault weapon' almost as much as they fear "islamofascjihadi terrists," and they're really afraid of those guys.
 
I'm on my phone now, or I would link it; but do a websearch on the "Veterans Disarmament Act" (not it's actual Congressional name, of course) which McCain supported--which effectively bans the posession of firearms for anybody who has ever been diagnosed with PTSD.
 
This post itself is name calling, e.g. "GROW UP", etc.

It is also extremely condescending.

How rude is it to be 'new to the neighborhood', and immediately begin casting this kind of holier than thou judgement to the whole group?

If you have a specific beef with another poster, take it up with them, but don't impugn the movement. Stop and ask them why they responded the way they did. There just might be a really, really good reason.

The media has been doing this continually, trying to paint this movement as just a bunch of crazy violent troublemakers.

Get the log out of your own eye before you start going after others splinters.

First of all... I am not new to te forum.

Specifically Sean Hanity, Neal Bortz and Pamela Furr (Local talk show host) all have had very bad (in your face kind of) experiences that they are responding to. Yes from what I know it is a minority of "the movement" but it is a significant enough number to warrent some of the criticism. Once you have pissed these people off, be it right or wrong, it is hard to even discuss RP with them.
 
McCain favors outlawing cheaply made handguns called Saturday night specials
Source: Scott Lindlaw, Associated Press Aug 17, 1999

Saturday Night Specials are actually .38 revolvers. An extremely common handgun for home defense.

McCain said he was open to voting for an assault weapon ban, depending on the details.
Source: Los Angeles Times, “McCain Calls for Hearings” Aug 17, 1999

Assault weapon is a vague term. It covers many calibers. Such as the .223.

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Just to clarify.
 
How did I refute my own statement? I think means it is MY Opinion FOR ME based on what I know and the pressure McCain will have on him from the right sid of the party... And based on things He has said.



"Still votng for evil" is overused and as meningless. I don't think McCain or Obama are evil. I think Obama is a socialist.


your wrong, mccain is evil, look into his past, what he personally did to stop some of our POWs from coming home, why? to cover his ass... look what he did to his exwife... the dude is EVIL
 
your wrong, mccain is evil, look into his past, what he personally did to stop some of our POWs from coming home, why? to cover his ass... look what he did to his exwife... the dude is EVIL

As stated... My "support" for mccain is mainly for the supreme court... these will be VERY important appointments.

I do like palin though.. I think she would be very helpfu for liberty in the future..
 
your wrong, mccain is evil, look into his past, what he personally did to stop some of our POWs from coming home, why? to cover his ass... look what he did to his exwife... the dude is EVIL

McCain is not the kind of guy I would like to have over my house for dinner, but I think EVIL is a bit much.
 
This post itself is name calling, e.g. "GROW UP", etc.

It is also extremely condescending.

How rude is it to be 'new to the neighborhood', and immediately begin casting this kind of holier than thou judgement to the whole group?

If you have a specific beef with another poster, take it up with them, but don't impugn the movement. Stop and ask them why they responded the way they did. There just might be a really, really good reason.

The media has been doing this continually, trying to paint this movement as just a bunch of crazy violent troublemakers.

Get the log out of your own eye before you start going after others splinters.

Respectfully.

I have seen what he was talking about quite a bit. Not just on Ron Paul forums. But in virtually every place the movement goes to "gather" and it is rendering the movement much less effective then it could and should be.
 
Erika, McCain is NOT pro-gun. Go read about it here. He earned an F rating from Gun Owners of America.

http://www.gunowners.org/mccaintb.htm
http://gunowners.org/pres08/

Note: Obama sucks too.

Problem here is Erika has been told this several times, and has been sourced also, but s/he is still running around the forums claiming that McCain is pro-gun.

Willfully ignoring the truth - such as GOA giving McCain an F minus rating - in order to continue to claim that McCain is pro-gun, is in my eyes a sure sign of a shill.

If Erika is NOT actually a shill, and is simply trying to justify an unjustifiable decision by resorting to fantasy, then s/he has issues with the fact of objective reality which need to be addressed before anything constructive can be accomplished.
 
We have 19,850 people registered on this forum, and probably 200 that are active participants. I think most have realized we can't afford to lose any more patriots to petty squabbles.

Well at the moment there are 293 people reading the forums, so I think we have a bit more than 200 regularly active participants.
 
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