This movement needs to be more tolerant...

EndTheFed said:
I have been in this forum for quite a while now.. I am fully supportive of Ron Paul and really support educating people as t what is going on.

Fully supportive does NOT mean agree with every point. The following issues are important to some here:

The war
Monetary policy
The Federal Reserve
The IRS
End the drug war

The problem is not everyone here is going to agree with everyone else.

Ron Paul seems to believe in LIBERTY which means I have liberty too an you should not be taking my liberty either or calling me names because I believe differently than you.

Some in this movementneeds to GROW UP and learn to win people over and persuade people with facts.

Calling people with differing opinions names is NOT going to help your cause.

Thanks,

:)
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Thank you very much for your constructive criticism of the forums, we all should work on our outreach methods and treat others as we would like to be treated. I have learned that people need to come to the realization of the truth for themselves, that doesn't mean you can't lead them to water, you just can't MAKE them Think. Everyone must have the FREEDOM to CHOOSE FREEDOM or it will be meaningless.
 
constituent said:
lol
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I see you like to take quotes (in your signature) out of context to try to make peolp look stupid.

You should try to get a job in the main stream media...
you have a great start to your resume..
 
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Omphfullas Zamboni said:
Hi there,

What is it that one can expect from the Supreme Court?

Be well.

Sincerely,
Omphfullas Zamboni
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Well as stated throughout this thread...

McCains appointments have a MUCH better chance than Obamas appointments ar being liberty/constitution friendly.

At least he has stated his appointments would be loke the ones that interpret law rather than make law from the bench..
 
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EndTheFed said:
Well as stated throuout this thread...

McCains appointments have a MUCH better chance than Obamas appointments ar being liberty/constitution friendly.

At least he has stated his appointments would be loke the ones that interpret law rather than make law from the bench..
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I promise to stay nice.

Now on your comment about interpret rather than make law. Can you give an example to demonstrate exactly how a McCain vs Obama appointee would possibly respond to a matter you percieve to be a right vs left topic unconstitutionally.
 
Bman said:
I promise to stay nice.

Now on your comment about interpret rather than make law. Can you give an example to demonstrate exactly how a McCain vs Obama appointee would possibly respond to a matter you percieve to be a right vs left topic unconstitutionally.
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Thank You for staying nice... :)

Well since we are not at that point it would be hard to give an example but lets say hypothetically...

Lets say something comes before the court on Gun Control.

If you look at the context and original intent and the history surrounding right to bare arms, the purpose was to keep govenment in line. It was not for hunting purposes and such. so it did not become opressiv and if it did to overthrow it.

See Jefferson : http://www.crf-usa.org/Foundation_docs/Foundation_lesson_declaration.htm

Interpret as opposed to make law:

Justices that Make law might say that it means that the government should have the right to bare armies and a malitia should but take it away from the people.

A justice that interprets the law would take it at face value with original intent and decide in that fashion..
 
EndTheFed said:
Thank You for staying nice... :)

Well since we are not at that point it would be hard to give an example but lets say hypothetically...

Lets say something comes before the court on Gun Control.

If you look at the context and original intent and the history surrounding right to bare arms, the purpose was to keep govenment in line. It was not for hunting purposes and such. so it did not become opressiv and if it did to overthrow it.

See Jefferson : http://www.crf-usa.org/Foundation_docs/Foundation_lesson_declaration.htm

Interpret as opposed to make law:

Justices that Make law might say that it means that the government should have the right to bare armies and a malitia should but take it away from the people.

A justice that interprets the law would take it at face value with original intent and decide in that fashion..
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Well something like that would be a direct violation on the constitution. I guess I'll have to do some research on gun laws that have come before the Supreme court to see how and why they voted and who nominated them. Plus try to find a bearing on who is in line from McCain or Obamas perspective.
 
Bman said:
Well something like that would be a direct violation on the constitution. I guess I'll have to do some research on gun laws that have come before the Supreme court to see how and why they voted and who nominated them. Plus try to find a bearing on who is in line from McCain or Obamas perspective.
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Yea... Im not sure who they have in line either... but we have an idea from saddleback forum
 
EndTheFed said:
Yea... Im not sure who they have in line either... but we have an idea from saddleback forum
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Being that conservative judges out weigh the opposition 6-3 this topic rates real low on my voting decision, but it is something of concern.

I'm more interested in who they have in mind rather than their own personal voting records. Lets face it. Neither the Patriot Act or the MCA of 2006 speak highly of McCains ideas of what the law is. Like Obama I don't trust him any further than I can throw him.
 
Bman said:
Being that conservative judges out weigh the opposition 6-3 this topic rates real low on my voting decision, but it is something of concern.

I'm more interested in who they have in mind rather than their own personal voting records. Lets face it. Neither the Patriot Act or the MCA of 2006 speak highly of McCains ideas of what the law is. Like Obama I don't trust him any further than I can throw him.
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Agreed... WOW :)
 
EndTheFed said:
I have been in this forum for quite a while now.. I am fully supportive of Ron Paul and really support educating people as t what is going on.

Fully supportive does NOT mean agree with every point. The following issues are important to some here:

The war
Monetary policy
The Federal Reserve
The IRS
End the drug war

The problem is not everyone here is going to agree with everyone else.

Ron Paul seems to believe in LIBERTY which means I have liberty too an you should not be taking my liberty either or calling me names because I believe differently than you.

Some in this movementneeds to GROW UP and learn to win people over and persuade people with facts.

Calling people with differing opinions names is NOT going to help your cause.

Thanks,

:)
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EndTheFed said:
Some in this movementneeds to GROW UP and learn to win people over and persuade people with facts.
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And some in this movement need to learn proper grammar so they can better persuade people with facts and win them over.
 
I think we are very tolerant and even though some fueds happen, its a testament that these forums are still so strong. I like the heated discuwssions until it errodes like what endthefed was doing with making anything anti-mccain, pro-obama.

...Or when the die hard Randians get that 'holier than thou' (:p, I like Rand also but Paul toned me down - I'm an atheist) and forget morality and focus only on property rights and profiteering.
 
Wow, I thought I said something provocative expecting a response. josephtheLibertarian must not be around.
 
jcarcinogen said:
Wow, I thought I said something provocative expecting a response. josephtheLibertarian must not be around.
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The real reason I resurected this post was somewhat devious. I brought it back up only to poste a 'tard picture under a quote from EndTheFed....:D
 
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