Why Isn't ICE/INS Arresting/Citing Employers Who Hire Undocumented Workers

[Voluntarist]

Case in point:
Arrests of eight migrant farmworkers at Berkshire dairy

The dairy is owned by the St. Pierre family, which confirmed the arrests in a Facebook statement Tuesday evening.

"We do not know the details or reasons at this time," the farm owners wrote. "We have cooperated fully with their instructions. Our employees were hired following the federal and state employment requirements. We remain supportive of our employees and appreciative of the valuable role they play in our community performing essential work on our farm. Our highest priority right now is to provide support to the individuals and their families."

If the undocumented workers were hired following the federal and state employment requirements, then how is it that the undocumented workers were able to be hired? If ICE and/or INS can recognize these people as being undocumented, then why can't the employers? Do the "employment requirements" need to be updated (and can they without stomping on the Constitution)?

It just seems to me, that unless ICE/INS is going after the employers, then all of this grabbing migrants in the night is simply kabuki theater to keep the ignorant public thinking that something is being done - just like TSA at the airports. Until you get rid of the jobs the migrants are coming for (by penalizing the employers) there's going to be a replacement undocumented worker for every undocumented worker you deport.




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Personally, I don't see migrants coming to the US for work to be a problem. But if I were to think like those of you who do, I'd be looking for real solutions rather than the Kabuki Theater that the Trump administration is currently engaged in (that is stomping all over the protections for all people that are afforded by the Constitution).

 

[PAF]

That doesn't make sense, unless somebody pulled an Obama and "if they saw something they said something". You know, todays "republicans".

Undocumented is the best kind. They can not sign up for government programs, they can not vote, and they don't have to fill out I-9's. Also they are free to invest however they want without being forced to pay into Social Security. Hopefully people will realize this, and instead of demanding that they sign up to be "legal", people will leave them TF alone.

 

[unknown]

OP gets into the heart of the matter.

My limited understanding is that many of them are not necessarily "undocumented".

Specifically the ones who entered under Biden, they were greeted at the border, processed and released.

And apparently were given some type of legal status such as TPS, which gave them the ability to work legitimately.

 

[Swordsmyth]

You mean like this?

An unscrupulous employer in Pennsylvania who harbored illegal aliens will pay a heavy price for his crime.

The conviction of the owner of a temporary employment agency is the second report in a week about an employer who illegally hired and harbored illegals. On February 14, federal authorities charged a baker owner in Texas with harboring.

The conviction in Pennsylvania and charges in Texas comport with repeated warnings from border czar Tom Homan before and after the election that he would file charges under the statute that forbids harboring.

More at:

https://thenewamerican.com/us/immigration/employer-convicted-of-harboring-noem-ice-raid-leakers-idd/

Employer Convicted of Harboring Illegals. Noem: ICE Raid Leakers ID’d

An unscrupulous employer in Pennsylvania who harbored illegal aliens will pay a heavy price for his crime.

thenewamerican.com

 

[69360]

The simple answer is that our economy would crash if the laws on illegals were suddenly completely enforced.

 

[nikcers]

It would work about as well as prohibition of alcohol or drugs.

The demand for buying labor below domestic market rates is always going to be there.

Deporting illegal immigrants is essentially more effective certainly because illegal immigrants can only come from outside the borders so if you deport them they aren't here to buy.

You would have to make your own immigrants here at home if you want to have access to more labor if you cant import an unlimited amount of cheap labor.

 

[Swordsmyth]

It would work about as well as prohibition of alcohol or drugs.

The demand for buying labor below domestic market rates is always going to be there.

Deporting illegal immigrants is essentially more effective certainly because illegal immigrants can only come from outside the borders so if you deport them they aren't here to buy.

You would have to make your own immigrants here at home if you want to have access to more labor if you cant import an unlimited amount of cheap labor.

They should do a lot more of both.

 

[nikcers]

They should do a lot more of both.

Until the numbers are lower and who knows how many illegal immigrants are here 20 million or 40 million you just aren't going to deter someone from doing it.

I have heard estimates of maybe 40 million people thats just a lot labor to ban every American from buying.

Maybe you could do it with modern technologies but I just think it's only possible if that number goes down to maybe lower than a half million.

Otherwise you just stop maybe 90% of people from buying it and the other 10% will buy it for a discount at rock bottom prices.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Until the numbers are lower and who knows how many illegal immigrants are here 20 million or 40 million you just aren't going to deter someone from doing it.

I have heard estimates of maybe 40 million people thats just a lot labor to ban every American from buying.

Maybe you could do it with modern technologies but I just think it's only possible if that number goes down to maybe lower than a half million.

Otherwise you just stop maybe 90% of people from buying it and the other 10% will buy it for a discount at rock bottom prices.

The point is the optics, less people will do it even if many people still do, and more illegals will self deport if they hear that employers are getting busted.
In particular larger businesses with more to lose will stop, and they are a greater percentage of the jobs that go to illegals.

But it is most important to get the mass deportations going and make Eisenhower look like a piker.