This movement needs to be more tolerant...

Oh hold I forgot about the one where she started a building project on PRIVATE PROPERTY!

Spent $700,000 on legal fees to try and steal the property form the gentleman. Then had to compensate him with $800,000 for going ahead with the project anyway and pretty much building on the land which forced him to sell it.

And now it's back in court because he's disputing that the value of the land was greater than $800,000.

LIBERTY MY ASS!
 
Actually, Hell Obama was right.

Guns and Religion, guns and religion.

Too bad he's a democrat the man is awfully intelligent.
 
Tolerance is why America is in this mess. Tolerance is a new buzzword for anti-european. Tolerance means be quiet, Don't say anything that isn't pc. Don't deviate from the tolerant marxism MSM spin.

Welcome to 1984.
 
Actually, Hell Obama was right.

Guns and Religion, guns and religion.

Too bad he's a democrat the man is awfully intelligent.

Obama is a gun grabber. Look at his voting record. He's awefully stupid.
 
Obama is a gun grabber. Look at his voting record. He's awefully stupid.

And McCain is a gun grabber too. I've saved all my issues of the NRA's "America's First Freedom" and you can't re-write history. no matter how bad you try.

Obama will ban 99% of all firearms, but McCain will only ban 95%.

Yeah, some choice THERE. :mad:
 
Obama is a gun grabber. Look at his voting record. He's awefully stupid.

It would be naive to call Obama stupid. I am not an Obama supporter nor would I underestimate my competition. Plus my point is right. The people here voting for McCain are voting for McCain on guns and religion, which makes Obama right. However, I digress.

I'm trying to get McCain supporters to vote third party. And if getting them to the point of realizing that McCain is equal or worse than Obama is what it takes to get them to vote third party, well I'll say what I have to.

The McCain supporters want to ignore McCains voting record based on what he is saying in the campaign and one nut job VP selection. Well then you might as well ignore Obamas voting record and base everything off of what he is saying on the campaign trail.

Maybe you would have went a different route then me, but hey shit happens.
 
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1. Foreign Policy
a. it sucks
b I have more foreign expierience than she does. And that really isn;t saying a whole lot.

This i a non-response meaningless

2. Personal Rights.
a. supports the war on drugs
b. opposes gays right to be seen as legitimate couple.

She can be worked on about the war on drugs.

I believe (not sure) she personally opposes gay "marriage"

3. Current events.
a. Husband is refusing a court supoena. What makes him above the law or her for that matter
b. Supports war with Russia, and following right behind Israel going into Iran.

This whole thing is a sham designed rum by democrats in AK which has now been wratcheted up to cause her problems as VP. It SHOULD be put off untl after the election to not interfere with it. Thr guy was fired for insubordination having NOTING to do with the trooper. He admits he was NEVR asked to fire the guy.

4. Family Values vs Education
a. Yup that works great. Unmarried pregnant teen in her own house.

Not sure if you have kids but I do. If you don't you will learn like it or not... They are individual andin the end do what they damn well please.

5. Science vs Religion
a. Supports creationism and intelligent design being taught in school.
I bet that chapter will have some interesting text. "God did it" Well where is the rest? What's scientific about that?

This is based on a false primise that Science is diametrically opposed to Religion

I support creationism al be it what is known as old earth creationism.
See http://www.reasons.org/ for reference

I think there should be able to have discussions from all points of view and thatis what Palin has advocated also.

Now that's from the top of my head should I try and dig up more information.

Maybe how she bends the truth on some of her stances to make it seem like she opposes government spending. Which is a flat out lie. She cuts money from one place gets it from somewhere else. It's kinda funny how everyone overlooks that. For instance she cut local taxes as mayor. But she raised the local sales tax. What's the difference. And doesn't raising sales taxes slow down consumption. Not a good idea.

Not sure what you mean about here "bending" the truth,,, You sound like the MSM there.

Enough yet should I go on. This ladies about as much to Ron Paul or the liberty movement as I am to puddle of water.

This is meaningless blabber with not evidential support...
 
Oh hold I forgot about the one where she started a building project on PRIVATE PROPERTY!

Spent $700,000 on legal fees to try and steal the property form the gentleman. Then had to compensate him with $800,000 for going ahead with the project anyway and pretty much building on the land which forced him to sell it.

And now it's back in court because he's disputing that the value of the land was greater than $800,000.

LIBERTY MY ASS!

Don' know anythjing about this... link?
 
Actually, Hell Obama was right.

Guns and Religion, guns and religion.

Too bad he's a democrat the man is awfully intelligent.

Hmmm seems like you are for the constitution/bill of rights where you like em...

Pick and choose..

Are you against the right to bare arms? Are you against freedom of religion?
 
This thread sucks ass.

How did a be more tolerant thread become a support McCain thread for several pages?

Vote for McCain? Have you completely lost your fucking minds?
Let's ask the Paulites how they we're welcomed at the GOP convention.
Where was Dr. Paul's invitation to speak?
Lets call up the Nevada delegates.

What the %$#%@##?????????
McCain does not give a shit about us or anything we stand for. Nor does the GOP.

Wake the hell up this is political war. Develop a sound strategy. The GOP is Ron Paul's vehicle so we have spent a lot of time working in the GOP. We have candidates running in the GOP. However the GOP still shits on us. The GOP needs to be brought to its financial knees. Work to infiltrate it, but give it no money until we have control. It will be self evident when we have control because the GOP platform will be our platform. The GOP does not need another Republican win. I have stated several times I do not want a Republican incumbent just in case RP wants to give it another go in 2012. Why adopt a strategy that makes it harder for us.

And Paulin... c'mon who really gives a shit. We're talking about a dam vice president. The least important political office in the entire U.S. The VP has two jobs. Cast a tie breaking vote and stay alive.

McCain, Obama, its the same crap either way. Either way I get less liberty. It is so stupid to debate over crumbs when either way the bread of liberty is being broken. We are better than that. But if I had to pick, I will choose no Republican incumbent in 2012.

But fortunately I don't have to choose yet. Ron Paul in his genius called up independents and asked them if they would support 4 MAJOR issues. And in a historical moment, they all agreed. How is there anything more exciting in presidential politics at the moment than that? You could choose ANY independent and it is a better choice than McCain or Obama. Hell I even like Nader because every interview I seen he is able to recite the 4 points from memory.

Do I think an independent candidate is going to win? Well no, but I think we could sure make a lot of noise supporting them. I think making noise is a sound military strategy in this time of political war.

I can tell you what I will be doing. Making noise for independents. And come election time if the polling numbers aren't looking good I am going to have to make a tough decision. And here is how that decision is going to go:

Are McCain/Obama clearly in front?
If No:
Vote independent
If Yes:
Are McCain/Obama close?
If No:
Is McCain out front?
If No:
Vote Independent
If Yes:
Vote Obama

If Obama out front
Vote Independent

Now the really tough question i will face is... what data do I rely on to guide those decisions? But my decisions will not be guided by arguing over the crumbs of liberty when our Republic has become a tyranny. I will base my decisions on the best strategy to RECLAIM THE REPUBLIC!

Now if you got some good strategic arguments other than McCain will do this and Obama will do that when at the end of they day they are both screwing us... step up. I will read them. If not then get the fuck out of my way so as I am talking to people every day trying to get more people interested and involved they don't have to come to this site and read this support McCain or support the GOP shit.

Read the thread... I am very supportive of RP and the movemet but NOT in lock step with every idea they have.
 
Tolerance is why America is in this mess. Tolerance is a new buzzword for anti-european. Tolerance means be quiet, Don't say anything that isn't pc. Don't deviate from the tolerant marxism MSM spin.

Welcome to 1984.

Erika.. I have agreed with you on some of you other posts but this one is bullshit...

:)
 
Tolerance is why America is in this mess. Tolerance is a new buzzword for anti-european. Tolerance means be quiet, Don't say anything that isn't pc. Don't deviate from the tolerant marxism MSM spin.

Welcome to 1984.

Tolerance and patience are the keys to education. Without them you turn ears into brick walls.
 
It would be naive to call Obama stupid. I am not an Obama supporter nor would I underestimate my competition. Plus my point is right. The people here voting for McCain are voting for McCain on guns and religion, which makes Obama right. However, I digress.

I'm trying to get McCain supporters to vote third party. And if getting them to the point of realizing that McCain is equal or worse than Obama is what it takes to get them to vote third party, well I'll say what I have to.

The McCain supporters want to ignore McCains voting record based on what he is saying in the campaign and one nut job VP selection. Well then you might as well ignore Obamas voting record and base everything off of what he is saying on the campaign trail.

Maybe you would have went a different route then me, but hey shit happens.

Im not ignoring his record... but I not going to ignore obama either... mccain would be better
 
DEAR LORD...if it hadn't been for those CONSERVATIVE justices...your second amendment rights would be in the TOILET! The liberal justices voted AGAINST THE SECOND AMENDMENT!!! TONES

The G.O.P. pays lip service to the Second and the Tenth but does little to protect them. The D.N.C. pays lip service to the other eight but does little to protect them. This is a false dichotomy and a zero-sum game.
 
hey, ETF, Tones, Phil,

I'm thinking that your being here reveals that you carry a certain amount of disenchantment with your party.

heard of http://www.votepact.org/? Thoughts?


Definately I'm disenchanted... but I'm disenchanted with our government.. but it is the best in the world... sad...


votepack l;ooks interesting... i liked some of the ideas...

the making debate contracts public was a good one..
 
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