So far the recount is showing discrepancies

[liberty_Forever]

 

[risiusj]

Personally I feel that only property owners should vote, so no I don't believe in one person one vote. If you don't have an investment in the country than you should remain a surf.

This would only be so for more local voting where the main form of taxation is property tax. Not for presidential and congressional representative elections.

A few years ago my small town voted on remodeling our school which would cost a couple million dollars. Since there are more people that live in town compared to farmers it passed. Of course, those that live in town pay little or no property tax
and farmers and landowners have to actually pay for the thing. In fact, our superintendent that orchestrated the whole plan said that a family would have to give up eating out just twice a month to pay for it. Maybe for himself.

 

[dawnbt]

And I think you should lose your vote because you can't even spell serf right while accusing others of stupidity for... using the pens they were given to vote with.

You're a class act.

What kind of pens are they supposed to use? At my precinct in MI they gave us the cheapo BIC pens. We also used these Diabold machines.

 

[pcosmar]

Still no proof of voter fraud. Found guilty of misconduct prior to a recount. You guys are claiming there is some huge conspiracy out there effecting the outcome of elections. You have no proof of it other than spouting your personal beliefs or crap from a website.

In this case of misconduct that you site: Ohio gave President Bush the electoral votes he needed to defeat Democratic Sen. John Kerry, but the special prosecutor did not allege that the workers' actions affected the outcome of the election.

Not relevant to your earlier question.
You said there was never a case of vote fraud.
That was a quick search because I assumed you were incapable of intelligent research.

 

[Jae0]

I own land. But I didnt graduate highschool.

I CAN HAS VOTEZ PLZ?

 

[freelance]

This was my guess before I got down to read your post. The conspiracy, black helicopter, the polls are wrong Ron Paul supporters are always looking for something in the shadows.

The same with the Algore supporters that couldn't vote properly (and in my view most should be voting anyway) then blaming the system. The hanging chad folks. Look you f'ing idiot if you can't punch a piece of paper out of a ballot I don't think you should be voting. If you can't fill in a bubble or complete the arrow (my ballots) than just do the patriotic thing and let competent people do the voting.

JMann, take a wild guess where they received those ball point pens! FROM THE POLL WORKERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[affa]

deleted to starve the troll.

 

[InLoveWithRon]

Don't forget that humans are MORE likely to make counting mistakes than the machines. If there's a discrepancy, it seems like nobody here has even considered that the human counters could be off by a few votes..

Wrong!! When they tested these machines before putting them into use, hand counts were proven to be MUCH more accurate.. They tested these things hundreds of times, and 95% of the time the hand counts were more accurate.. There are tons of factual news stories on that from a few years ago..

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[moostraks]

You are correct. Except they can't be taxed without the right to vote so they would be excluded from the income and social security tax. Of course, they would collect no social security.

Well when will those checks be sent out returning the thousands upon thousands of dollars already collected?? Guess we'll just tack that on to the national debt, hunh? Guess that means only the property owners get to pay that off. Well, well...communal property is looking better and better. Nice trick to back door socialism...

I think there should be some form of political knowledge not property posession as a qualifier. I know many people who own houses who should not qualify for voting as they are mouthpieces parroting old media dialogue. They vote for the person who was mentioned on the nightly news as being the latest front-runner...

 

[pinkmandy]

Yep you would be disqualified but you family can vote. No investment no stock in the country, no vote.

That's ridiculous. By that standard, we'd have China and Saudi Arabia voting. I also disagree on the premise that owning land means anything anymore. The banking industry has corrupted that so really, unless you owe nothing on your property, then you own nothing.

Some people invest in their countries in other ways...being activists for freedom for example. I also consider well educated children an investment.

Btw, I am a property owner and I know a lot of others as well. An idiot can buy property (or inherit it) so how does that make one qualified in any way?

 

[fmontez]

This is pretty much the way all election recounts go; in the end there will be no real difference. At least RP didn't attached his name to this recount.

 

[constitutional]

Republican recount on?

 

[liberty_Forever]

TheAmistad: yes!

 

[alien]

Personally I feel that only property owners should vote, so no I don't believe in one person one vote. If you don't have an investment in the country than you should remain a surf.

Have you served in the US armed forces?

Well I have. I think putting my life on the line for this country and living here, born and raised gives me every right to vote. That's more of an investment than buying a house for yourself. What have you sacrificed for your country?

What a jackass!

 

[Shink]

Have you served in the US armed forces?

Well I have. I think putting my life on the line for this country and living here, born and raised gives me every right to vote. That's more of an investment than buying a house for yourself. What have you sacrificed for your country?

What a jackass!

High five, fellow vet! I do not support aristocracy.

 

[CopperheadNC]

Personally I feel that only property owners should vote, so no I don't believe in one person one vote. If you don't have an investment in the country than you should remain a surf.

Anyone else read that as this guy thinking that only smurfs should vote?

He may have a point, as Giuliani, looking as much as he does like Gargamel, wouldn't stand a chance under that system.

 

[dspectre]

Personally I feel that only property owners should vote, so no I don't believe in one person one vote. If you don't have an investment in the country than you should remain a surf.

Hi,

So from what you state, then the banks and and select group of old people should only be allowed to vote since they are the only ones that really own property. That's right, some of the older people actually own their houses while most people are in debt to their eyeballs trying to payoff their dream house. The reality is, the banks own most of these houses, not the people. If these people are unable to pay their houses then they go to the banks.

You have a strange concept of what our Constitutional Republic is all about.

 

[Catatonic]

I have to leave this thread because the stupidity is not tolerable.

I agree, luckily this will be remedied as soon as you're gone.

 

[Mark]

http://www.inteldaily.com/?c=144&a=4865

European press: It wasn't a miracle - Hillary won via a rigged vote

Tue, 15 Jan 2008 06:37:00
By Michael Carmichael
(Planetary Movement) -- The mainstream Italian media are reporting both the rigging of the New Hampshire primary for Senator Hillary Clinton and the official demands for a swift, accurate and impartial recount. In an article written by Marcello Foa, one of Europe's most respected journalists, it appears that vote tallies for all Democratic candidates as well as Republicans were reduced by Diebold vote-counting machines.

In an analysis of the hand-counted ballots, the influential Milanese newspaper - Il Giornale, reports that all Democratic candidates except Senator Hillary Clinton made gains when the New Hampshire ballots were manually tabulated, while Senator Clinton made inexplicably large gains where ballots were tabulated by computerized scanners.

According to the report, Ron Paul should have finished third in the Republican primary rather than fifth. Thus, it would appear that both Barack Obama and Ron Paul were the primary targets of vote-rigging operations in New Hampshire.

Il Giornale cites the Princeton study that alerted public attention to the vulnerability of computerized voting machines used throughout America to deliberate vote-tampering and election-rigging via manipulation of the memory cards.

The state of New Hampshire is equipped with computerized tabulation machines manufactured by Diebold, devices that have received a massive amount of negative publicity after the public awareness of vote-rigging surged dramatically following the presidential election scandal of 2000.

In previous statements, former President Jimmy Carter - who has a global reputation as one of the foremost authorities on election procedures - has frequently pointed out that the United States of America does not meet international criteria for electoral security.

 

[cska80]

Hi,

So from what you state, then the banks and and select group of old people should only be allowed to vote since they are the only ones that really own property. That's right, some of the older people actually own their houses while most people are in debt to their eyeballs trying to payoff their dream house. The reality is, the banks own most of these houses, not the people. If these people are unable to pay their houses then they go to the banks.

You have a strange concept of what our Constitutional Republic is all about.

A better change would be that anyone who is shown to be dependent on the government should not be able to vote. It's a conflict of interest to vote for someone solely on the premise that they will take something from someone else and give it to you. Redistribution of wealth is unconstitutional so I think this conflict of interest is as well.