Ron Paul Unveils Economic Revitalization Plan

There were several "common people" tax cut measures listed in his plan including elimination of the income tax.

However, he suggests eliminating the corporate gains tax first and does not suggest immediately eliminating the income tax. He suggests a constitutional amendment banning the income tax. However, that would be a very long dragged out process.
 
Why issue rebate checks and make more debt for your children? they have to "print" that money to send it!

Because it was stolen. They should only go out to people wh actually paid taxes as opposed to those that don't like the President and the other candidate propose.

In addition to the fact he would be returning money that was taken, unlawfully according to some, it is a good campaign move.
 
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I think that the first tax that should be eliminated is the income tax.

It effects EVERYONE and not just those that invest.

I'm actually offended that Ron Paul would suggest eliminating capital gains taxes before the income tax.

I am not offended at all. THe people who get nailed with capital gains are in general the top 20% of tax payers. THos top 20% (including me) pay about 80% of the income tax collected. It in all honesty is the middle and upper class that deserve the tax breaks. We are the ones who have been getting screwed for YEARS.



for proof look here: http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=221
 
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Menthol Patch, SHUT THE FUCK UP

Every time someone responds to me that way it's only going to make me want to post even more.

I'm honestly concerned about this stimulus package.

First of all, it's obvious to me that Ron Paul is trying to water down his message in order to attract more voters. In my opinion that's totally unacceptable.

Second of all, the FIRST tax that should be reduced or eliminated is the income tax. It effects everyone and not just those that invest. Before ANY other tax is cut the income tax needs to be reduced and then abolished ASAP.

Third, Iraq needs to be mentioned specifically. In every single debate Ron Paul has mentioned bringing our troops home from Iraq and elsewhere.
 
I am not offended at all. THe people who get nailed with capital gains are in general the top 20% of tax payers. THos top 20% (including me) pay about 80% of the income tax collected. It in all honesty is the middle and upper class that deserve the tax breaks. We are the ones who have been getting screwed for YEARS.

I'm sorry that you have been taxed for so long. However, by eliminating the income tax EVERYONE can benefit. The first tax that needs to be abolished is the tax that effects the most people. That is the income tax.

Of course I totally support abolishing capital gains taxes. I just think that should be second.
 
people need to relax, you can't abolish the income tax over night. Of course that is on his chopping block, but it freaks many out. This is a nice step in that direction which is what is needed to get folks onboard. I'm glad he left out iraq on this too... poeple hear that and get turned off.

Ron has already gotten the support from folks who want out of Iraq, now he needs to get folks who are hurting from the economy (everyone).

This is a GREAT plan!
-Mark
 
Who cares about your vote Menthol. Go waste it on some shitheel Cato Institute Libertarian.

The FIRST thing that must happen before doing away with the IRS is cutting the government spending. If you just eliminate the tax without eliminating the spending, you bankrupt the government. Paul has said NUMEROUS times that eliminating the IRS is not something you can do on day one. It would require a major change in the opinion of what government should be.

If you didn't notice this, and didn't notice that this is just a stimulus package for the current situation, then you are too stupid to be an RP supporter anyway.

Wait, why am I responding to this idiot. Go fuck yourself.
 
Every time someone responds to me that way it's only going to make me want to post even more.

I'm honestly concerned about this stimulus package.

First of all, it's obvious to me that Ron Paul is trying to water down his message in order to attract more voters. In my opinion that's totally unacceptable.

Second of all, the FIRST tax that should be reduced or eliminated is the income tax. It effects everyone and not just those that invest. Before ANY other tax is cut the income tax needs to be reduced and then abolished ASAP.

Third, Iraq needs to be mentioned specifically. In every single debate Ron Paul has mentioned bringing our troops home from Iraq and elsewhere.

You're 100% right and we ALL agree completly with you. We may not even vote for Ron Paul. However, until we decide that, we're going to move on and 'pretend' to support the plan in it's current form.
 
Every time someone responds to me that way it's only going to make me want to post even more.

I'm honestly concerned about this stimulus package.

First of all, it's obvious to me that Ron Paul is trying to water down his message in order to attract more voters. In my opinion that's totally unacceptable.

Second of all, the FIRST tax that should be reduced or eliminated is the income tax. It effects everyone and not just those that invest. Before ANY other tax is cut the income tax needs to be reduced and then abolished ASAP.

Third, Iraq needs to be mentioned specifically. In every single debate Ron Paul has mentioned bringing our troops home from Iraq and elsewhere.

Yes he is trying to win the Republican nomination not be the Libertarian party nominee. Paul will never be able to do what he wants to do as president, the position isn't that powerful. What he can and should run on is what he CAN do.
 
Christian Science Monitor publishing an article from the Cato Institure blogs.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2008/0124/p09s02-coop.html

To no one's surprise, politicians are rushing in with various plans for helping the economy. Most of these plans involve "stimulus." The calls are loud to put more money into the hands of ordinary Americans in hopes that they will spend – not save – it, thereby boosting the overall economy.

Such stimulus, however, is futile. Government cannot create genuine spending power; the most it can do is to transfer it from Smith to Jones. If the Treasury sends a stimulus check to Jones, the money comes from taxes, from borrowing, or is newly created.

If it comes from taxes, the value of Jones's stimulus check is offset by the greater taxes paid by Smith, who will then have fewer dollars to spend or invest. If Uncle Sam borrows to pay for the stimulus checks, this borrowing takes money out of the private sector. Any dollars borrowed – whether from foreigners or fellow Americans – for purposes of stimulus would have been spent or invested in other ways were they not loaned to the government.

The only other means of paying for such stimulus is for the Federal Reserve to create new money. Unfortunately, this option leads inevitably to inflation.

All Americans wind up with more dollars in their wallets but also paying higher prices in the stores. Prosperity is not created by raining down upon the populace more monochrome pictures of dead statesmen.

That sound familiar to anyone else?

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Can someone explain how Sarbanes Oxley caused capital and jobs to be sought overseas instead of here? Any examples? Thanks.

SOX has alot of unintended cosequences, as most things do. The cost of maintaining compliance is the most frequently heard complaint.

Recently we have seen the bulk on new issues (IPOs) go across the pond to London and the LSE as companies are foregoing US listings due to this regulation.
 
Finally a real plan revealed by Ron Paul. I always thought that is what he needed to look like the other candidates. They always had these plans to go through after entering office, but Ron stayed mostly philosophical. Glad he finally came up with an actual plan...not that anybody knows about it because the MSM won't allow it (except on Cavuto yesterday ironically).
 
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