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Ron Paul: Willing to Help Elon Cut Government

Matt Collins said:
No. Most people have already voted and those that plan on voting are already decided. In fact the race is pretty much over now, it's about turnout at this point, not advocacy.



False premise, you must be new around here.
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Same sign up year as you Matt, I went through the Ron Paul campaigns on here same as you.
I actually advocated voting non-GOP in the years Ron Paul ran, I thought McCain was a crazy war monger, I hated that snake Romney with a passion, and Obama didn't seem that bad at the time.

But times have really changed since then, the left went totally crazy, freedom is great, but at some point Americans need to band together to stop the lunatics, their lunacy is impacting other Americans rights in a very negative way.

People have to decide in swing states if they want to stop lawfare against conservative libertarians, because it will only get worse if Kamala wins with her supreme court picks.......but you know this Matt.

Losing the supreme court to the biased left, has never been a false premise.
 
I think what's getting everyone all excited is that Ron Paul is finally, after all of these years, getting some credibility here from some people in actual positions of power that can do something to make changes.

This is of course a good thing because it's a step forward for sure, but one should proceed with cautious optimism and here is why...

Trump has never shown any indication he wants to cut back spending. And his plan to deal with the debt is to "grow" our way out of it which doesn't work mathematically.

Also it's campaign season so there is a lot of 'irrational exuberance' circulating especially since it appears the Democrats will lose. In short, it's a lot of hot air, granted it's really good hot air, but that's all it is at this time. Trump doesn't have a good track record on spending and there is no real indication that will change. I hope he does, but I wouldn't bet a dollar on it.

And, even if Trump and Elon want to take a metaphorical machete to start downsizing the federal government, they are not dictators, and they can only do so much from the Executive branch. Congress has to go along with a lot of it which they of course won't do. This is probably what Trump is mostly referring to when he said he wants outgrow the debt, reducing regulation or just not enforcing it, and let the economy go wild. This will be good but will likely also cause more inflation.

A better question to ask is whether or not Trump and the next Majority Leader, and the next Speaker, will support a full audit of the Federal Reserve?
 
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ProBlue33 said:
Losing the supreme court to the biased left, has never been a false premise.
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Until Trump I would disagree with that because most of the SCOTUS picks from Republican Presidents were horrible. And the old lie that we have to vote for a Republican because of SCOTUS picks was a false premise. However Trump did manage to appoint 2 really good justices (because of the Federalist Society) and I suspect he will do the same going forward. This is one example of how Trump is the best President in my life time which admittedly is a low threshold.
 
Matt Collins said:
Trump has never shown any indication he wants to cut back spending. And his plan to deal with the debt is to "grow" our way out of it which doesn't work mathematically.
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The only thing that Trump cares about is his ego and his legacy.

If we can convince him that cutting spending is something that he can brag about -- and it is -- then he might actually do it.

It's unlikely, sure, but not impossible.
 
I'm sure that Elon will lobby to end boondoggle incentives and carbon credits for the electric car industry.

Elon is a very limited freedom warrior.

Probably better than nothing.

But a lot closer to nothing than better.
 
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TheTexan said:
The only thing that Trump cares about is his ego and his legacy.

If we can convince him that cutting spending is something that he can brag about -- and it is -- then he might actually do it.

It's unlikely, sure, but not impossible.
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I dunno, I do think he genuinely wants to do good things. The problem is that he doesn't always know what the best thing that works is, and how to get there.
 
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