New PPP poll: Rand only at 4% (5?) but does the best against Hillary
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He's running for both since the Kentucky GOP agreed to change the GOP Presidential primary to a caucus.
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Prediction: This will result in more neocon pandering from Rand.
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So-called conservative SC justice John Roberts saved Obamacare not only once but twice. The slaves have left the plantation and they ain't coming back. Trump is the outlet for this anger. People could care less about his past record, but rather wish to use him to inflict harm on the GOP. I'm 100% on board as well. Let Hillary be POTUS and let the old GOP die.
Trump would likely appoint a Ginsburg or Sotomayor to the Supreme Court. The issue of border security is basically the only issue Trump is conservative on.
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I don't feel like digging up the polls right now.
There were polls that showed Ron with the only real chance to beat Obama in key swing states.
Just like now.
And once again, the idiot GOP will snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
LOL @ politics.
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Who knows what Trump is conservative on? He could be far worse than advertised or far better. We don't know. He's been a fixture in the 'pay to play' political environment for his entire life that his true intentions have been obscured. It's going to be interesting going forward what is revealed.
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"Who does better in General Election" has never been a reason why people vote for one candidate over another in the primary. If that had been the case, Reagan and Goldwater never would have gotten the nomination. Rand has nobody to blame for his predicament except for himself. If he had been running a strong, confident campaign like Reagan and Goldwater he'd be among the leaders right now. People don't respond to mealy mouthed pandering and equivocation.
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He is leading in the most crucial way, he is the most electable republican running. There is a reason why Obama calls out Rand in a field of 16. There are a crap ton of surrogate candidates that are there just to muddle the polls and they still can't keep him out of the debates.
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Ron did better with independents than Romney, but Romney held the GOP base better than Ron and it all pretty much evened out. Rand holds the GOP base better than Ron, but maintains his lead with with independents too.
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It's the current Republican party. Look at 2012. After every debate there was a new front runner. I don't know what to think about the current numbers other than with some later arrivals people keep looking for the next new thing. What does surprise me are Bush's numbers. I know plenty of Republicans. Many who are not Libertarian leaning and I know of no one who puts Jeb Bush as their top pick. Not even close.
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Interesting. People asked why is rand not focusing on Iowa and New Hampshire. In this interview Rand answered why is he visiting "other states" and not focusing on just first few:
About election at 5:45: "it could go on longer that before....i dont think anyone is inevitable...it will be contested primary"
He is speculating that this time because of so many candidates republican nominee will not be decided after just first few states. If he is right his visits to "other states" could pay multiple times. He will be only candidate that visited them and will have head start in those states...
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They are gonna do their best to prevent Rand from coming into the first debate....
but it is kinda shocking when cruz was at like 2% and carlson/rubio at like 6%, and Rand at 7% .. and now... cruz is tied with Rand, and Rubio/Carlson pull ahead by alot.. seeeeems very fish to me.............. very. And Fiorina tied? huh? this is alllll very orewelian if you ask me....
I predict Rand will mysteriously not make it, into the 1st debate. Infact, I predict next PPP poll will have Rand dropping further and some nonesuch ahead of him...... they are doing a Ron on Rand.
Kasich at 3% --- FOR FUCK SAKE... WHO THE FUCK IS KASICH!!!!! And Rand at 4%... the fix is in.. imho.
but it is kinda shocking when cruz was at like 2% and carlson/rubio at like 6%, and Rand at 7% .. and now... cruz is tied with Rand, and Rubio/Carlson pull ahead by alot.. seeeeems very fish to me.............. very. And Fiorina tied? huh? this is alllll very orewelian if you ask me....
I predict Rand will mysteriously not make it, into the 1st debate. Infact, I predict next PPP poll will have Rand dropping further and some nonesuch ahead of him...... they are doing a Ron on Rand.
Kasich at 3% --- FOR FUCK SAKE... WHO THE FUCK IS KASICH!!!!! And Rand at 4%... the fix is in.. imho.
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Rand has been in Iowa and NH, just not at some of the media events. He has been working small venues with local GOPs.
Also in these early states, Rand's campaign has been buying a lot of advertising, along with Bush, Rubio, probably Ted Cruz. When other candidates get around to campaigning there, they are not going to have access to that inventory because it has been sold out well in advance.
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The most "crucial way" would be leading the Republican Primary, because that is the contest he's actually competing in at the moment and if he doesn't win that nothing else matters. You know who else would be winning a general election match up against Hillary? Jim Webb. He'd get all the GOP support and peel of all Hillary's working class white support and she'd get crushed. So why doesn't he just run in the GOP Primary? Because he can't win the GOP Primary. I don't want to hear about how good Rand is doing in a theoretical General Election match up that's never going to happen if he continues to plummet in the race that actually matters. Rand needs to get his numbers up among GOP voters and the only way to do that is run a campaign that excites and inspires the GOP electorate.
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