New Iowa PPP poll: Rand at 3% with a 31% favorability rating

[jj-]

The biggest problem is the favorability ratings and not Rand's actual percentage. He still has time to turn things around, but he can't repeat the performance that he had at the last debate.

I used to say that to Rand's naysayers, but don't do that anymore because Rand's favorability ratings went down after the debate.

 

[AuH20]

I used to say that to Rand's naysayers, but don't do that anymore because Rand's favorability ratings went down after the debate.

This was completely avoidable. He may not even qualify for Simi Valley.

 

[Brett85]

Can't win with a 45% negative rating. Looks like Fox and Rush accomplished their memo.

It was a self inflicted wound. Rand didn't have to act that way in the debate. His advisers told him to just play it cool and play it safe, and he didn't listen to them. And today every single one of his twitter posts is about Trump, and absolutely nothing about what Rand stands for and advocates. He's just doubling down on a failing strategy.

 

[eleganz]

Does anybody think Rand wouldn't have tanked (slightly) if they first thing following the debate were statist neocons saying Rand lost the exchange with Christie simply because THEY disagreed on the issue?

 

[AuH20]

It was a self inflicted wound. Rand didn't have to act that way in the debate. His advisers told him to just play it cool and play it safe, and he didn't listen to them. And today every single one of his twitter posts is about Trump, and absolutely nothing about what Rand stands for and advocates. He's just doubling down on a failing strategy.

It's like Captain Ahab and the White Whale.

 

[Liberty74]

Does anybody think Rand wouldn't have tanked (slightly) if the first thing following the debate were statist neocons saying Rand lost the exchange with Christie simply because THEY disagreed on the issue?

Exactly! This was the memo that went out to all Fox pundits and Rush who repeated that Rand did the worst. The sheep followed hence it's where Rand is at currently...

 

[rich34]

LOL. Just found this document for the criteria for the next debate. They hedged their bets...

Well hell, this would certainly explain the media's slobfest, not just fox news, but cnn as well of Ted Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, and even Huckabee ensuring those cats don't drop out of the next debate, while also pumping up Carly and again, not just fox news, but CNN, NBC, ABC etc... They had this shit planned well before the debate even started. Hell just doing that early debate was for the sole purpose of getting Carly into the next debate while all the other suckers literally believed that just maybe they could use that time to boost their campaign. As much as I don't like them either, I think it's straight jacked up that they would use them like tools, for the sole purose of propping her up and into the next debate while pushing the one guy that got 1 question in the first 80 minutes of the debate, thus leading to his "poor debate performance" out of the next debate for her to be put in his place. That was the plan, and it's so obvious it's not even funny. For one the man would not have had to come off sounding as "desperate" if the guy got asked real questions like everyone else did. This of course never gets mentioned only that he did the worst in the debate. I'd like to know just how can anyone of these reporter/anchor bozo's even say Rand did the worst when they damn well know the man never got to speak about anything of real policy due to them never giving him the chance.

And what's even more horrendous in all this is this story went completely untold and unheard. When they did this shit to Ron, he didn't have that Chump Donald Trump on the debate stage, with a script that was followed to make it look as if he was the guy that got treated so horrible, while getting the most questions asked and our guy getting only one. This is a very powerful tool that Ron was able to use not so much to change the media's approach to him, but rather a tool the base could use to both fire up the base and make videos of making them go viral about their treatment of him. Now if that's done people will be like, all yeah, well they treated Trump worse ha, BS. I mean even as I sit here with Fox News on, they're literally, giving Trump headlines about the voter anger that he's tapping into for what?? How the flipping media is treating him!! Where was that with Ron?? No where! Where could that be with Rand? It's going no where also because this time they put some fake ass big mouth with a suit in his place to prevent him from getting the BS being done to him out in the open. Trump is a tool and is obviously the elites, Trump card to prevent another Paul from causing any rebel rousing, by putting their puppet in there to suck up all that anger and contempt. ERRRGG!!!!!

Even if Ron don't campaign for Rand per say, I sure wish he would start hitting up college campuses giving speaches about monetary policy and other read meat meet issues to his supporters and while taking questions blow up Trump as the FAKE candidate the establishment is using to prevent that frustration going to other candidates that would do a much better job filling this role.

 

[Lindsey]

Personally, I liked the Rand that showed up in Cleveland. It sucks that the pollsters are getting these numbers, but I don't think that's on Rand.

 

[rich34]

LOL. Just found this document for the criteria for the next debate. They hedged their bets...

Well hell, this would certainly explain the media's slobfest, not just fox news, but cnn as well of Ted Cruz, Rubio, Kasich, and even Huckabee ensuring those cats don't drop out of the next debate, while also pumping up Carly and again, not just fox news, but CNN, NBC, ABC etc... They had this shit planned well before the debate even started. Hell just doing that early debate was for the sole purpose of getting Carly into the next debate while all the other suckers literally believed that just maybe they could use that time to boost their campaign. As much as I don't like them either, I think it's straight jacked up that they would use them like tools, for the sole purose of propping her up and into the next debate while pushing the one guy that got 1 question in the first 80 minutes of the debate, thus leading to his "poor debate performance" out of the next debate for her to be put in his place. That was the plan, and it's so obvious it's not even funny. For one the man would not have had to come off sounding as "desperate" if the guy got asked real questions like everyone else did. This of course never gets mentioned only that he did the worst in the debate. I'd like to know just how can anyone of these reporter/anchor bozo's even say Rand did the worst when they damn well know the man never got to speak about anything of real policy due to them never giving him the chance.

And what's even more horrendous in all this is this story went completely untold and unheard. When they did this shit to Ron, he didn't have that Chump Donald Trump on the debate stage, with a script that was followed to make it look as if he was the guy that got treated so horrible, while getting the most questions asked and our guy getting only one. This is a very powerful tool that Ron was able to use not so much to change the media's approach to him, but rather a tool the base could use to both fire up the base and make videos of making them go viral about their treatment of him. Now if that's done people will be like, all yeah, well they treated Trump worse ha, BS. I mean even as I sit here with Fox News on, they're literally, giving Trump headlines about the voter anger that he's tapping into for what?? How the flipping media is treating him!! Where was that with Ron?? No where! Where could that be with Rand? It's going no where also because this time they put some fake ass big mouth with a suit in his place to prevent him from getting the BS being done to him out in the open. Trump is a tool and is obviously the elites, Trump card to prevent another Paul from causing any rebel rousing, by putting their puppet in there to suck up all that anger and contempt. ERRRGG!!!!!

Even if Ron don't campaign for Rand per say, I sure wish he would start hitting up college campuses giving speaches about monetary policy and other read meat meet issues to his supporters and while taking questions blow up Trump as the FAKE candidate the establishment is using to prevent that frustration going to other candidates that would do a much better job filling this role.

 

[Liberty74]

The Iowa cacus moved from Janurary to Februrary. There is a bigger pool of youth voters that can potentially vote.

Won't make a difference. The youth vote did not shoot up significantly in any of other primaries and causes in Feb/March 2012 compared to Jan 2012.

MUST WIN the old vote, at least be very competitive or you are bound to repeat the same mistakes...

 

[Brian4Liberty]

This was completely avoidable. He may not even qualify for Simi Valley.

CNN has already committed to have the "undercard" debate, so Rand will get time either way. He might even get more time if he is bumped to the undercard.

 

[CrissyNY]

He really comes off as the pesky hall monitor when he attacks Trump. No one likes the hall monitor. No one.

i think thats your personal response to that exchange

i only respond because mine is opposite

trump looks like he has makeup on for goodness sake...and he puckers his lips

why am i supposed to take him seriously again?

carson was a hundred times better with his honesty, if i ever had to pick anyone but rand

 

[Crashland]

CNN has already committed to have the "undercard" debate, so Rand will get time either way. He might even get more time if he is bumped to the undercard.

And if he's in with the lower tier he will get to face off against Lindsey Graham lol. I hope he does make the cut though, it will be close especially if they cut it to 8. There will be quite a few polls I'm sure released between now and the next debate.

 

[rich34]

Beaten by Carly Fiorina. Talk about embarrassing. If someone told me that Carly Fiorina would eclipse Rand Paul 3 years ago, I would have smacked them in the head several times. Run a crap campaign, get crap results.

Oh BS, it's not his F'n fault when the media is literally driving the conversation away from Rand and to whomever they choose. How can Rand be blamed for this?? They couldn't get by so easily with this the last two elections because it was only Ron in there that was being treated the way he was being treated. Now the MSM is giving Trump billions of dollars in free press for no apparent reason, while at the same time appearing to be mistreating him as if he's the only one getting mistreated so therefore there is no outlet for Rand or his supporters to be screaming that the man is majorly being mistreated and/or ignored. Ron at least got more than 1 question in hell all the debates he was in during the first hour and 20 minutes and hell we were all pissed off over that. Now I'm hearing nothing about that and you won't because Trump is being so "poorly mistreated" and if anyone stands up and says something it's sour grapes.... Fuck Trump, and the fake ass MSM script that is literally killing Rand's chances right now. Hell even if Rand mirrored Ron's campaign and did and said everything that Ron did do you seriously think it would make two dimes worth of difference??? Hell no! Why, Trump! He's the only one in the race that is being treated unfairly, and BS!!! Please excuse my language this kind of rhetoric pisses me off. Any Ron Paul supporter should already know this! Which begs the question and leads me to wonder, will the real Ron/Rand supporters please stand up?

 

[CPUd]

They may not commit to a specific number and go by tiers, currently there are 4, with Kasich and Christie swinging between 3 and 4:

 

[rich34]

CNN has already committed to have the "undercard" debate, so Rand will get time either way. He might even get more time if he is bumped to the undercard.

Sure he probably will, but the thing is the script will have already been written and the next "big winner" that comes out of the bottom tier will be a guy like Jindal, just so they can show all the minorities being on the same stage in a republican debate. Think about it, you got the Latino's, a Black man, a woman, and then getting Jindal in there now you'll have a brown man/Indian. Boy the republican party sure has their own ways of expanding the party and it's nothing more than pandering by simply including them in their debates. To hell with the idea's Rand, we gotta look good by showing we have all the different colors on stage and oh, even a woman!! Sorry, GOP nobody is going to buy it, it's fake as hell...

 

[69360]

Eh, I haven't thought Rand was going to win for a while, so whatever. I'll still be voting for him though.

How many times are you all going to set yourselves up for letdowns? The polls must be wrong, cellphones, demographics, liars...

Make a good run at it, drop out gracefully and endorse the nominee. Next time it's your turn. That's how this game is played. Well unless you are a Bush or Clinton. Then if you enter, you win.

 

[GopBlackList]

That's it, I had enough! I'm dumping Rand for Carly, just like FOX said!

Carly sounds more libertarian than Rand. Rand Paul is a coward.

 

[GopBlackList]

Can't win with a 45% negative rating. Looks like Fox and Rush accomplished their memo.

And Rand is right where his father was nationally with just Republican voters...3%.

FoxNews didn't have to do anything. Just watch the debate, he had negative vibe throughout the debate. He came across as unlikeable.

 

[LatinsforPaul]

Carly sounds more libertarian than Rand. Rand Paul is a coward.

Hilarious