I've heard you don't have to get a SSN for your kid when they are born...?

[Reason]

But that it can be difficult & that the hospitals will fight you on it.

Anyone have some links to more info on this topic?

 

[donnay]

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/ChallJurisdiction/YourRightsAndSSNs.htm
http://www.dailypaul.com/53103/warningdo-not-get-your-newborns-social-security-numbers
http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/scarmig/scarmig1.html

 

[james1844]

Look, its a huge pain in the ass if you don't have one.

 

[Reason]

http://www.famguardian.org/Subjects/Taxes/ChallJurisdiction/YourRightsAndSSNs.htm
http://www.dailypaul.com/53103/warningdo-not-get-your-newborns-social-security-numbers
http://www.strike-the-root.com/3/scarmig/scarmig1.html

wow, that first link is some fantastic reading....!

 

[Reason]

Look, its a huge pain in the ass if you don't have one.

no doubt

 

[Danke]

Look, its a huge pain in the ass if you don't have one.

Yes, freedom is sooo inconvenient.

 

[Czolgosz]

Maybe the question should be, why do I need a SS number?

 

[Reason]

Yes, freedom is sooo inconvenient.

Very true.

Usually worth it.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Maybe the question should be, why do I need a SS number?

But you don't

 

[Czolgosz]

But you don't

Spoken like somebody who lives in a freer State.

 

[Danke]

Maybe the question should be, why do I need a SS number?

If you want a government job or benefit, you'll need one.

 

[heavenlyboy34]

If you want a government job or benefit, you'll need one.

If illegal aliens can get benefits without a verifiable SSN, surely we shouldn't have to!

 

[heavenlyboy34]

Yes, freedom is sooo inconvenient.

Very true.

 

[Czolgosz]

In NH, if you'd liked to drive a car under the UCC you'll need a license. The primary documents required to get a license all require (afaik) a SS number to obtain, which means you need a SS number somewhere along the line to get a UCC approved NH driver's license. Source: http://www.nh.gov/safety/divisions/dmv/driverlic/documents/required_doc.pdf

Of course I'm with the school of thought that as long as you don't sign a contract with the state that your Constitutional right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness isn't revoked once you close the car door. Take the Carl Miller and Michael Badnarik youtube courses.

What else? Bank accounts; there are arguments you may use to acquire an account. Here's one reference, but there are many others: http://www.greaterthings.com/News/Victories/bank_ssn.htm

Danke mentions government jobs, but what about private companies?

 

[Czolgosz]

If illegal aliens can get benefits without a verifiable SSN, surely we shouldn't have to!

Re: illegals, google ITIN. I glanced at the required form, you could probably get one into the system w/ relative ease.

 

[Yieu]

Maybe the question should be, why do I need a SS number?

Unfortunately, if you want a private market job or any job at all, you will need one. It does not make logical or moral sense, but unfortunately most if not nearly all jobs will not hire without one.

 

[CaptainAmerica]

thank you Franklin D ROOSEVELT......for national id,and tax tracking system.

 

[A Son of Liberty]

The Amish around here get along quite well enough without one.

Of course, they seem to get along quite well enough without a lot of things.

 

[darkstar725]

Neither myself nor my brother or sister had one until I was about 13...My older brother had to get one to get a driver's license I think, so we all got them then.

 

[apex]

SSN is very convenient. Need credit to buy a car or house?