Because Ross Perot did it, duh!
it's time to start thinking 3rd party run
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Because Ross Perot did it, duh!
Andrew76
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Yes, I disagree as well. He's struggling now as it is, getting shafted at the debates, getting scammed in Louisiana and other places I'm sure and wildly ignored by the MSM. If this doesn't work out, and it's admittedly MORE costly to run as an independent - frankly, I think the writing is on the wall. It won't happen.
In the meantime, I'm trying not to vomit on myself as I see state after state voting for McCain. What is wrong with people? "We've had enough of Bush Jr., so we'll elect someone just as stupid as him, but more cynical, condescending and evil." He is a horrible man. If your friends are voting for this man, reconsider who you're friends with.
In the meantime, I'm trying not to vomit on myself as I see state after state voting for McCain. What is wrong with people? "We've had enough of Bush Jr., so we'll elect someone just as stupid as him, but more cynical, condescending and evil." He is a horrible man. If your friends are voting for this man, reconsider who you're friends with.
BarryDonegan
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you're wrong in saying that independents voted for so-and-so.
the majority of americans have not voted, and will not vote.
those are true independants, and they can be lead to vote for anyone.
the majority of americans have not voted, and will not vote.
those are true independants, and they can be lead to vote for anyone.
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I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo sick of hearing this crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! The one thing I know is gonna happen every time RP is interviewed is the person asking questions is gonna say " do you plan to run 3rd party?", and that is my cue to puke. Then I come on the site that is supposed to be the heart of RP support and I see a freakin thread titled " Its time to start thinking 3rd party run." Well I tell ya what time it is. It is time for all you 3rd party run freaks to get the hell off the f@*#ing internet and hit the streets to get the message out. It ain't time to run 3rd party until the Doc. says its time, and guess what, he's sayin GOP convention or bust! So get up and make it happen or get the @$*k out of the way.
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If he decides to run Independent then maybe Lou Dobbs will listen more.
Sounds like you need to reread your tagline
Nobody is going to stop canvassing--no matter what. But almost everyone is hoping that if it becomes clear that he obviously can't get the Nom., he will go iNDY.
All I hear is yelling, and all I see is willful blindness, from the anti-iNDY folks.
Keep yelling. We however are hopeful for a Ron Paul whitehouse. We don't care if it is w/ out the GOP.
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An independent run is virtually impossible.
The ballot access battle is ridiculously difficult and would never happen
if Ron Paul tried to go independent.
With the sheer numbers of grassroots supporters already keyed in
the feasibility of undercutting the MSM stranglehold in the general election exists.
The organization does not cease to exist - who wants to abandon hope?
Not while we are still organized - that would be nuts.
Let us keep this thing together - no matter what.
The biggest part of making a third-party run is already in place.
The only realistic choice is to go with the Libertarian Party.
I won't vote for anyone but Ron Paul, no matter what happens.
But all this is still premature - let's wait for the results.
It is only a few hours until all the rest of the cards are on the table.
An independent run is virtually impossible.
The ballot access battle is ridiculously difficult and would never happen
if Ron Paul tried to go independent.
With the sheer numbers of grassroots supporters already keyed in
the feasibility of undercutting the MSM stranglehold in the general election exists.
The organization does not cease to exist - who wants to abandon hope?
Not while we are still organized - that would be nuts.
Let us keep this thing together - no matter what.
The biggest part of making a third-party run is already in place.
The only realistic choice is to go with the Libertarian Party.
I won't vote for anyone but Ron Paul, no matter what happens.
But all this is still premature - let's wait for the results.
It is only a few hours until all the rest of the cards are on the table.
IDefendThePlatform
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I support an RP independent run. McCain + Huckabee pooling their delegates at the convention pretty much seals our fate. I think we can accomlish a lot more with 8 months of independent campaigning than slugging along to a convention where we have almost no chance of winning at this point.
Agreed. My advice, do as I do, add these defeatist talkers to your ignore list. I did, nearly half of this thread, I never saw. Either these people were already on my ignore list, or have just been added. As is now, the original author of this thread. Put them on ignore. Eventually they will only be talking to themselves, and maybe then they will just go away...
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Keep dreaming! Unfortunately we do not have enough money for a 3rd party candidacy 
Yeah--we couldn't get on the ballots WITH SEVEN MONTHS TO DO SO?! Whatever. What a bunch of crap. How the F did Perot do it? We have way more grassroots than he did. And DON'T SAY, "With his billions." He spent 65 million--look on wikipedia. What cost $65000000 in 1990 would cost $107,402,877.98 in 2007. source: http://www.westegg.com/inflation/infl.cgi
You know what's really "never gonna happen"? The Republican nomination. So for people that want ONE THING and one thing only--Ron Paul to be in the whitehouse--an iNDY run must be discussed. For all you that care more about "changing the GOP", fine--you can continue to argue your point that that would be better than a Ron Paul win in the General.
You know what's really "never gonna happen"? The Republican nomination. So for people that want ONE THING and one thing only--Ron Paul to be in the whitehouse--an iNDY run must be discussed. For all you that care more about "changing the GOP", fine--you can continue to argue your point that that would be better than a Ron Paul win in the General.
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No, actually he wont. It is either Republican nomination, or not at all. Stop kidding yourself.
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You guys are too funny
It started as a McCain/Clinton dog and pony show 2 years ago and thats where it ends, the only choice for Paul was and is as an independent/third party. See all the free air time McCain got to rise from the dead? Maybe after his book comes out Ron will change his mind. If he wants to be president. Americans will have to be homeless and eating government cheese before they stop listenng to the boob tube tell em who to vote for. Never understimate the lack of intelligence of the American voter. I talked to one kid today that said he cannot vote for Paul because he will tax us to death? I just shook my head. People are dumb folks.
It started as a McCain/Clinton dog and pony show 2 years ago and thats where it ends, the only choice for Paul was and is as an independent/third party. See all the free air time McCain got to rise from the dead? Maybe after his book comes out Ron will change his mind. If he wants to be president. Americans will have to be homeless and eating government cheese before they stop listenng to the boob tube tell em who to vote for. Never understimate the lack of intelligence of the American voter. I talked to one kid today that said he cannot vote for Paul because he will tax us to death? I just shook my head. People are dumb folks.
IDefendThePlatform
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Right on the money. Plus, going out and getting the signatures is an excellent excuse to introduce RP to a lot of people.
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You guys are fucking idiots. Still about half the states to go, and we havent even had the convention yet. Why run independent? Fucking retard OP.
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Well, if you wait until the GOP convention in the summer, it's too late to go third party after that.
As a practical matter, Ron has to make a decision by April 1. That would give him time to get the LPA nomination [which he could secure without a lot of effort, but which has to get done by May] and to get on the ballot in the states the LPA doesn't cover.
It's fine to campaign hard for the GOP nod because that introduces voters to Paul and lays the groundwork for later.
No independent candidate in my lifetime had 17000 precinct captains in February. No independent candidate in my lifetime had the fundraising capacity Ron has [other than Perot who had his own dough.]
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