Liz Cheney considers third-party POTUS run

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Liz Cheney, outspoken Trump critic, weighs third-party presidential run
The former congresswoman says she is determined to stop Trump. Other Trump critics think a third-party candidacy could help him.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/elections/2023/12/05/liz-cheney-trump-president-2024/
[archive link: https://archive.is/ls68X]
{Maeve Reston | 05 December 2023}

Liz Cheney, one of the most vociferous critics of Donald Trump in the Republican Party, says she is weighing whether to mount her own third-party candidacy for the White House, as she vows to do “whatever it takes” to prevent the former president from returning to office.

While promoting her new book “Oath and Honor: A Memoir and a Warning,” the former Wyoming congresswoman — who was defeated by a Trump loyalist last year — is warning that Trump could transform America’s democracy into a dictatorship if he is reelected; anticipating, she said, that he would attempt to stay longer than his term.

“Several years ago, I would not have contemplated a third-party run,” Cheney said in a Monday interview with The Washington Post. But, she said, “I happen to think democracy is at risk at home, obviously, as a result of Donald Trump’s continued grip on the Republican Party, and I think democracy is at risk internationally as well.”

Given her appeal to independents, former Republicans and some Democrats, many Trump critics in both parties have noted that a presidential run by Cheney could undercut her stated goal of defeating Trump, because it could draw some votes away from President Biden. Cheney said those considerations would all be part of her analysis, and underscored that she would not do anything that would help Trump return to the White House.

Cheney, whose father is former vice president Dick Cheney, said she will make a final decision in the next few months. “We face threats that could be existential to the United States and we need a candidate who is going to be able to deal with and address and confront all of those challenges,” Cheney said. “That will all be part of my calculation as we go into the early months of 2024.”

The former congresswoman would face a daunting task if she decides to run — and not just because of the deep antipathy toward her that Trump fostered among many Republicans as he urged them to cast her from office. To run for president outside the two-party system in America, candidates must either attach themselves to third parties that have ballot access or petition for their own place on state ballots, which can be a costly and cumbersome process. In order for a candidate to participate in the debates organized by The Commission on Presidential Debates next fall, they must have at least 15 percent support in national polls and are required to meet other criteria.

If she does not run for the White House, Cheney is not ruling out voting for Biden or campaigning for him if he is the 2024 Democratic nominee. In a remarkable turn of events for a former member of House GOP leadership, Cheney also said she would use her influence in 2024 to ensure voters do not elect a pro-Trump Republican majority in the House and that she will back “pro-Constitution candidates” and “serious people,” regardless of party.

She argues that the Trump “enablers” who control the House — among whom she includes House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) — pose a serious threat because they would likely accede to Trump’s demands. That includes the possibility that Trump loyalists in the House would try to interfere with the election results in January 2025 if given the opportunity.

Cheney writes in her book that voters from throughout the political spectrum should unite behind the cause not only of stopping Trump from regaining the White House, but also curbing the power of those “enablers” who she says have “preyed on the patriotism of millions of Americans.”

“This is more important than partisan politics,” she writes in the epilogue. “Every one of us — Republican, Democrat, Independent — must work and vote together to ensure that Donald Trump and those who have appeased, enabled, and collaborated with him are defeated. This is the cause of our time.”

At a moment when Trump is leading his GOP rivals by more than 40 points in many polls of the Republican race, she contends that not just the Republican primary electorate but the party itself has “lost its way,” caught in the grip of what she calls the “cult of personality.”

Because of that, the “tectonic plates of our politics are shifting,” she said, and conventional wisdom about third parties and the bifurcated primary process that produces a Republican nominee and a Democratic nominee is “pretty irrelevant, in my view, in the 2024 cycle, because the threat is so unique.”

“There are a majority of the voters in this country who are too responsible to entrust Donald Trump with the authority of the White House and the authority of the presidency,” Cheney said. “So I think a large part of the task going into ‘24 is talking to those people and just making sure they have the facts in front of them.”

When asked how she would define her potential platform if she were to run for president, Cheney said she believes that the country must elect a commander in chief who will abide by the Constitution, respect the rule of law and maintain America’s commitment to defending freedom abroad. She cited Trump’s threats to pull out of the NATO alliance and the refusal of many House Republicans to commit more U.S. aid to Ukraine as examples of grave threats to America’s security interests.

Cheney, who is now professor of practice with the University of Virginia Center for Politics, receded from the spotlight for much of this year after her prominent role in a congressional panel that investigated and held high-profile public hearings on the Jan. 6, 2021 attack on the U.S. Capitol by a pro-Trump mob. In her book, she offers a behind-the-scenes look at her role in those hearings and the unlikely alliance that she forged with former House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who asked her to serve on the select committee investigating the January 6th attack.

“Every time I went to her with a concern, a proposed approach, or a request that she intervene with Democrats to help guide things in the right direction, she backed me up,” Cheney writes.

The former congresswoman, who had won her prior races in Wyoming with huge majorities, also reflects on her 2022 defeat by a margin of more than 30 percentage points by now-Rep. Harriet M. Hageman (R-Wyo.), whom Trump backed as he tried to purge critics such as Cheney from the party’s elected ranks.

Though Cheney had voted with Trump more than 90 percent of the time, she writes that she knew after voting to impeach Trump over his conduct on January 6th — and becoming one of his chief targets — that the “easiest course” would have been to not seek reelection. She explains that she ultimately decided that doing so would weaken her hand in confronting the threat that Trump posed.

“Withdrawing from the race for my seat in Congress would be seen as declaring defeat in my own election,” she writes in her memoir, released Tuesday. “It might also signal that our investigation had failed — that I was giving up, or that this fight somehow no longer merited the effort.”

Her foray onto the campaign trail in 2024, no matter how she decides to involve herself, will be a fresh test of her political capital. In 2022, she focused on defeating election deniers such as Arizona GOP gubernatorial candidate Kari Lake and secretary of state nominee Mark Finchem in Arizona. (Both lost). This cycle, Cheney has held off from endorsing any candidates running as alternatives to Trump in the GOP primary. Given the antipathy toward her among Republicans, it is unclear whether her support would be helpful.

Cheney’s book delves into her close role with her father, who acted as her adviser and her protector during some of the most turbulent moments of Trump’s presidency and the aftermath — calling to warn her on January 6, 2021 that she was in danger after Trump told his supporters during a rally on the Ellipse that “We got to get rid of the weak congresspeople, the ones that aren’t any good, the Liz Cheneys of the world.”

Asked whether she would attempt to enlist her dad and his onetime running mate, former president George W. Bush, in her crusade to prevent Trump from becoming president, Cheney said the country will be facing a moment “where everyone must speak out.”

“We need everybody on the field,” she said, adding that includes the many Republicans who worked for Trump at the highest levels who have called out his conduct. “That needs to be amplified and organized in a concerted effort, to make sure people understand that these are the people closest to him — and this is what they say about his lack of fitness for office. It is going to require all hands on deck certainly in this campaign cycle.”

Offering a gripping account of the terror inside the House chamber in the midst of the violence and chaos at the Capitol on Jan. 6, Cheney’s book is unsparing in her criticism of fellow Republicans who carried out Trump’s bidding as he tried to overturn the 2020 election results and members who she said placed their own political ambitions over their oath to the Constitution.

Cheney called the effort of Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.) — who with other senators had proposed a 10-day multistate audit of the election results in January 2021 — “one of the worst cases of abandonment of duty for personal ambition I’d ever seen in Washington.”

She excoriates the shape-shifting postures adopted by then-House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) as he bent to Trump’s will — arguing that “every time Kevin McCarthy had faced a decision of consequence, he had done the wrong thing.” Cheney notes that when she first saw the photo of McCarthy meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago on Jan. 28, 2021 — weeks after McCarthy had told members he believed Trump was responsible for the violence at the Capitol — she thought the photograph was a fake, believing “not even Kevin McCarthy could be this craven.”

Cheney also writes at length about the attempts by Johnson, who was then a lesser-known congressman, to help Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results. Recounting his questionable analysis as he presented himself as a “constitutional lawyer” in meetings with Republican members, Cheney charges that he was “especially susceptible to flattery from Trump” and “aspired to being anywhere in Trump’s orbit.”
 
She argues that the Trump “enablers” who control the House — among whom she includes House Speaker Mike Johnson (R-La.) — pose a serious threat because they would likely accede to Trump’s demands. That includes the possibility that Trump loyalists in the House would try to interfere with the election results in January 2025 if given the opportunity.

Remember, comrades - it's only "misinformation" (or a "conspiracy theory") when you say it ...
 
Remember, comrades - it's only "misinformation" (or a "conspiracy theory") when you say it ...

...will be Antifa's turn to go to jail that year.

Republicans are looking too much like the principled ones. Gotta give them another turn to prove otherwise.
 
who was defeated by a Trump loyalist last year

No matter how much you think you hate the Marxist Media Organs, you do not hate them enough.

"Routed by almost 40 points" is more accurate.
 
Usually the “No Labels” Party gets mentioned. Strange that there is no mention with regard to Liz Cheney, especially since it is essentially a neoconservative project.
 
The Daughter of Darth?

They might have been able to sell that shit if she had looked something--anything, really--like Carrie Fisher.

Give her to the Forward Party. They'll like her.
 
h/t [MENTION=12430]acptulsa[/MENTION]: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...rds-from-the-Clown-Show&p=7209053#post7209053

With Trump’s win, Liz Cheney and anti-MAGA GOP voters face a choice
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/01/16/liz-cheney-republicans-iowa-caucuses/
[archive link: https://archive.is/Xko30]
{Jennifer Rubin | 16 January 2024}

With four-time-indicted former president Donald Trump’s expected win in Iowa coupled with the close race for second, the 2024 race may come to resemble the 2016 contest when Republican alternatives divided up the not-Trump vote. Former U.N. ambassador Nikki Haley’s finish no doubt disappoints establishment Republicans looking for a Trump alternative. So, while the race is not over quite yet, it will be soon enough. Republicans not enamored with a right-wing authoritarian will then face two critical choices:

If Trump is the nominee, will it be time to depart from the Republican Party? And if the answer is yes, what to do in November and beyond?

Former Wyoming congresswoman Liz Cheney, who has become the most articulate voice of sanity on the right, does not want to crush one of the challengers’ chances, no matter how slight. So don’t expect her to do anything to foreclose whatever small possibility remains to defeat Trump in the primaries. That said, Cheney has begun to look ahead.

Last week, Cheney gave her most succinct and clear answer about her outlook on 2024. It bears emphasizing that she is not giving herself or others an “out” by suggesting they all hop on a third-party train to nowhere. Instead, she delivered the hard news: “There are some conservatives who are trying to make this claim that somehow [President] Biden is a bigger risk than Trump,” she said on “The View.” “My view is I disagree with a lot of Joe Biden’s policies. We can survive bad policies. We cannot survive torching the Constitution.”

https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1745445467419455728


Votes for a Libertarian, Green or No Labels candidate can only diminish the anti-Trump, save-democracy coalition. Just as we saw in 2020 — when Republicans including former Ohio governor John Kasich; John McCain’s widow Cindy McCain; former senators David Durenberger of Minnesota, Gordon J. Humphrey of New Hampshire and John Warner of Virginia; and a flock of former congressmen and George W. Bush aides endorsed Biden — sober and patriotic Republicans must know that the only candidate in the general election who can beat Trump, if he is the nominee, will be Biden.

If a strongman such as Benito Mussolini, Francisco Franco or Jair Bolsonaro were the nominee, no one would dream of throwing their vote away on a fringe candidate. It would be essential to form a broad coalition, from the center-right to the left, in defense of democracy. Any risk that a character prepared to suspend the Constitution could get elected, use the military to suppress dissent and politicize the justice system (among other horrors) would be too great.

We should expect Cheney to join figures such as former congressman and fellow Jan. 6 select committee member Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.) in endorsing Biden over Trump. She would not do so because she agrees with Biden’s policies, as she said, but, rather, because she has vowed to do everything in her power to keep Trump out of the Oval Office. She can stand up for still-persuadable fellow Republicans and ex-Republicans to explain the risk a Trump second term would pose not only to American democracy but also to the fate of democracies around the world (e.g., Taiwan, Ukraine) struggling to defend themselves against aggressive dictatorial regimes. The great test for her — and for our democracy — is whether she and like-minded conservatives can pull enough of the Republicans who are anti-Trump or whose support for Trump is merely soft into the Biden camp.

On “The View,” Cheney also explained, “I think that the Republican Party itself is clearly so caught up in this cult of personality that it’s very hard to imagine that the party can survive.” Remarkably for someone who spent her entire life in the GOP, she acknowledged, “I think increasingly it’s clear that once we get through 2024, we’re gonna have to have something else, something new.” She seemed finally to have given up on a reform movement within the GOP.

“I believe the country has to have a party that’s based on conservative principles and values, where we can engage … with the Democrats on substance and on policy,” she said. Certainly, instead of reactionary, radical change, the new conservative party could embrace the temperament that used to be associated with conservatism (e.g., gradualism, public virtue, humility). If she and like-minded conservatives help defeat Trump and put a stake in the cult of personality that replaced the Republican Party they knew, they still will need to decide what a coherent, effective conservative party agenda would look like in the 21st century.

Their foreign policy vision would likely reject Trump’s isolationism and embrace of dictators. But plenty would be left to consider, including whether and to what degree human rights shape policy, the appetite for unilateral military action and the approach to international trade (protectionist or free?). Determining how to best address China would properly be among the many policy debates. At least there would be a debate on serious policy matters.

Domestic policy choices might be more difficult for an alternative conservative party. It could go back to old positions, such as repealing the Affordable Care Act, supply-side tax cuts, preferences for oil and gas production, opposition to all gun legislation, and affirming antiabortion stances. This would be the GOP pre-Trump. However, there are real questions as to whether those positions have popular support or even seem feasible at this point. Some Republicans oppose abortion bans and support reasonable gun measures. Perhaps a new party could tolerate more diversity on issues.

A constructive Republican Party has been missing from national politics for so long that the prospect of policy innovation and debate sounds a bit strange but rather exciting! What would not be up for debate would be democracy itself, the rule of law or a depoliticized justice system and military.

Cheney is inarguably right in one respect: Unless a large, ideologically diverse pro-democracy alliance defeats Trump, conservatives won’t have a democratic system in which to hash out policies. Cheney’s highest calling now might well be to impress on her fellow citizens the urgency of that effort.
 
Votes for a Libertarian, Green or No Labels candidate can only diminish the anti-Trump, save-democracy coalition. Just as we saw in 2020 — when Republicans including former Ohio governor John Kasich; John McCain’s widow Cindy McCain; former senators David Durenberger of Minnesota, Gordon J. Humphrey of New Hampshire and John Warner of Virginia; and a flock of former congressmen and George W. Bush aides endorsed Biden — sober and patriotic Republicans must know that the only candidate in the general election who can beat Trump, if he is the nominee, will be Biden.

See ↑↑↑? Republicans can do this ↓↓↓, too!
The great test for her — and for our democracy — is whether she and like-minded conservatives can pull enough of the Republicans who are anti-Trump or whose support for Trump is merely soft into the Biden camp.

"'Our democracy' is always code for 'our hegemony'." -- Michael Malice

Domestic policy choices might be more difficult for an alternative conservative party. It could go back to old positions, such as repealing the Affordable Care Act, supply-side tax cuts, preferences for oil and gas production, opposition to all gun legislation, and affirming antiabortion stances. This would be the GOP pre-Trump. However, there are real questions as to whether those positions have popular support or even seem feasible at this point. Some Republicans oppose abortion bans and support reasonable gun measures. Perhaps a new party could tolerate more diversity on issues.

"Conservatism is progressivism driving the speed limit." -- Michael Malice
 
Please don't throw me in that there Briar patch!

She can do nothing but take votes from Brandon.
Trump won't lose a single vote to her.
 
Please don't throw me in that there Briar patch!

She can do nothing but take votes from Brandon.
Trump won't lose a single vote to her.

Brandon doesn't have any votes. That's the very nature of this psyop. Wake up and open your eyes.
 
Brandon doesn't have any votes. That's the very nature of this psyop. Wake up and open your eyes.
Right, all those welfare rats, leftist activists and brainwashed Twitter zombies will vote Trump.
Right.

He doesn't have enough to win without cheating, but he does have enough to try to cheat.
 
Right, all those welfare rats, leftist activists and brainwashed Twitter zombies will vote Trump.
Right.

Biden doesn't have any votes. The Democratic Party has the vote blue no matter who crowd, and it's even more pathetic and humorous to see them pretend he's not one of the two worst presidents the nation has ever had than watching you people do the same thing.
 
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