it's happening!!!! 36% of Republicans willing to cross over to 3rd party for Trump

[AuH20]

BTW We all know when Jeb falls out, a good portion of his support swings to Hillary. Ya know bipartisan tyranny and all that.

 

[jj-]

Somebody drops in to participate in a discussion, and if it's not the "approved" tact, these little ankle biters start hopping around spouting lies.

It's ridiculous.

It's kind of funny when some show their hardcore authoritarian mindset.

 

[wizardwatson]

Define "at all costs".

Just a little hyperbole.

That's a lie.

Well, it's just the type of threads you're posting on. Freddie Gray, Baltimore, Muslim Art Contest, etc. I clearly said I'm not accusing you, only saying that fits the pattern. But then again, someone arguing against you would also fit the pattern.

I suspect that you're entire perspective could be brought into focus with a prescription for Haldol.

I have prescriptions for Lamotrigine and Olanzapine. I suppose having a condition means everything I say is symptomatic. That sounds racist, bro.

When people start making suggestions on an internet forum about stopping other posters "at all costs", I start to suspect something clinically wrong with their ability to reason.

You have demonstrated no reason or premise that you are reasoning from.

The whole premise is "Trump is a better candidate to support than Rand and if Ron Paul Forums members can't explain why this statement is false then you all are crazy."

Very classy.

 

[erowe1]

Interesting avatar. Is it a flag? What does it mean?

Yes. It's half-Christian-flag, and half-black-flag. The Christian part means that the only ruler I pledge my allegiance to is Jesus. The black part means that all earthly regimes are illegitimate pretenders to his throne. I acknowledge none of them. Any legitimate authority they may claim to have for themselves actually does not exist.

 

[TommyJeff]

Are we supposed to be excited?

Isnt it ideal for this country to break from the 2 party system? Does the 3rd party person really matter so long as they open the path for other 3rd parties?

 

[nikcers]

Isnt it ideal for this country to break from the 2 party system? Does the 3rd party person really matter so long as they open the path for other 3rd parties?

Because Clinton vs Bush vs third party = Clinton?

 

[cindy25]

That will only put Hillary in office. Idiots!

but it would end the Chamber of commerce GOP, and from the ashes a true Libertarian GOP could rise up. besides, Hillary or Jeb-same thing. maybe Hillary, with nominally opposition house , would be better

 

[AuH20]

Because Clinton vs Bush vs third party = Clinton?

http://www.mediaite.com/tv/maddow-trump-polls-prove-republicans-do-not-care-about-winning/

“Republican voters do not care! They want their Donald Trump,” Maddow said of the general election factor. In her view, that’s not an “interesting thing” about Trump, but rather an interesting thing about Republican voters. “They know he would lose, but they like him anyway.”

Count me among them.

 

[69360]

How hard is this concept to grasp? Trump is not an actual candidate. He is trolling all of you who profess your support for him.

 

[TommyJeff]

Because Clinton vs Bush vs third party = Clinton?

gosh no. Though i don't distinguish much of a difference 2016 Clinton v Bush. What I meant is that this nation would be better off in the future with more tha 2 main parties in each election cycle. If trump is the guy to pave the way for that scenario, I like the idea behind that. I don think he will break the two party system but I hope some does.

 

[derek4ever]

I just thought of something the other day guys!Now, I'm no fan of putting a wall on the border, but what if instead of a wall, some business people would look at the border area and decide to create businesses? For example, a 100-story hotel, 100-mile mall, etc.?Reason I'm asking is because I just thought of something like the Trump Tower on the border (or say 50 of them) to prevent the illegal immigrants from coming in.

 

[derek4ever]

gosh no. Though i don't distinguish much of a difference 2016 Clinton v Bush. What I meant is that this nation would be better off in the future with more tha 2 main parties in each election cycle. If trump is the guy to pave the way for that scenario, I like the idea behind that. I don think he will break the two party system but I hope some does.

Could you guys imagine if Trump does go third party and wins or comes close to winning? Could he bring the Reform Party from the ashes?

 

[Brett85]

What is wrong with some people? How does one go from supporting Rand and the Liberty movement to supporting leftist loud mouth Trump?

I find it very disturbing to find some people who supposedly supported Rand are now switching to Trump of all people. Is this based on the media's 24/7 preoccupation with Trump? Not to mention some conservative sites need to change their names to Trump news, since the other candidates (including Rand of course) are being almost entirely ignored?

Aren't liberty supporters smart enough to know we shouldn't pay any attention to most "news" sources?

I joined this forum because I support Rand and wanted to be part of an online community of like minded people. Instead I see a lot of negativity, and of some people willing to throw Rand under the bus in favor of a bombastic blow hard who would lose in a Goldwater like landslide to the eventual D nominee.

+Rep. Thread winner.

 

[Brett85]

If Rand Paul had waged open war on the GOP's Old Guard, I would have run into oncoming traffic for him. That was always Ron's specialty. Sadly, Rand has done the opposite in some instances. Trump has showed more bravery than Rand since he doesn't have to worry about Committee posts or election monies.

Again, you care about trivial issues. Something like protecting the Bill of Rights and individual liberty is less important to you than "sticking it to the establishment."

 

[Brett85]

Not to mention that Trump's stance on the issues are much more in line with the establishment than Rand's positions are.

 

[jj-]

Not to mention that Trump's stance on the issues are much more in line with the establishment than Rand's positions are.

The establishment is against multicountry trade agreements, and favors a more strict immigration policy?

 

[Brett85]

The establishment is against multicountry trade agreements, and favors a more strict immigration policy?

Trump wasn't in favor of a more strict immigration policy until right now. He criticized Romney for being too tough on illegal immigration. You and others are just being played by Trump.

 

[AuH20]

Again, you care about trivial issues. Something like protecting the Bill of Rights and individual liberty is less important to you than "sticking it to the establishment."

The Bill of Rights is Dead. It's not coming back. Do you really think you can vote back the Bill of Rights? That's not the way the system operates.

 

[jj-]

Trump wasn't in favor of a more strict immigration policy until right now.

So you're saying the establishment and Trump's old positions -but not the current ones, at least immigration- largely overlap? It wasn't clear from your post.

 

[Brett85]

The Bill of Rights is Dead. It's not coming back. Do you really think you can vote back the Bill of Rights? That's not the way the system operates.

If Rand becomes President he can repeal executive orders that assault the Bill of Rights. Compare that to Donald Trump who called Edward Snowden a traitor who should be executed.