it's happening!!!! 36% of Republicans willing to cross over to 3rd party for Trump

[Brett85]

So you're saying the establishment and Trump's old positions -but not the current ones, at least immigration- largely overlap? It wasn't clear from your post.

Most of Trump's current positions are in line with the establishment. He's for massive government spending. He says that he wants to increase military spending and opposes all cuts to entitlement spending.

 

[jj-]

Most of Trump's current positions are in line with the establishment. He's for massive government spending. He says that he wants to increase military spending and opposes all cuts to entitlement spending.

So the establishment positions overlap with both old and new Trump positions, which contradict each other? I'm very confused by your point.

 

[Brett85]

So the establishment positions overlap with both old and new Trump positions, which contradict each other? I'm very confused by your point.

Trump's current position on immigration contradicts his previous position. But he's always been a big government liberal who loves spending money recklessly on entitlements and the military.

 

[jj-]

Trump's current position on immigration contradicts his previous position. But he's always been a big government liberal who loves spending money recklessly on entitlements and the military.

It's interesting that you bash old and new positions at the same time. It's like you know exactly which flip flop was authentic and which one was fake. Looks like you have incredible super powers.

 

[Brett85]

It's interesting that you bash old and new positions at the same time. It's like you know exactly which flip flop was authentic and which one was fake. Looks like you have incredible super powers.

I don't have any idea what you're talking about. I don't think anyone else does either.

 

[jj-]

I don't have any idea what you're talking about. I don't think anyone else does either.

Come on. Reading isn't that hard.

 

[eleganz]

Seems like a few on RPF can't avoid looking at the shiny new object named Trump.

 

[AuH20]

Most of Trump's current positions are in line with the establishment. He's for massive government spending. He says that he wants to increase military spending and opposes all cuts to entitlement spending.

Then why do they object to him so much? Why not embrace him then? All we hear 24/7 is that Trump is bad bad bad.

 

[nikcers]

Then why do they object to him so much? Why not embrace him then? All we hear 24/7 is that Trump is bad bad bad.

How do you know if dog shit doesn't taste good if you've never tasted it?

 

[Brett85]

Then why do they object to him so much? Why not embrace him then? All we hear 24/7 is that Trump is bad bad bad.

Maybe they see the polls that show him losing to Hillary by 15-20% and realize that they would just be handing Hillary the Presidency if Trump were nominated.

 

[AuH20]

Maybe they see the polls that show him losing to Hillary by 15-20% and realize that they would just be handing Hillary the Presidency if Trump were nominated.

Thought they would rather see Hillary as opposed to Rand or Trump. You know this is true.

 

[AuH20]

So apropos

Bane would definitely pull the lever for Trump. Even the League of Shadows knows the GOP is hopelessly corrupt.

 

[Brett85]

Thought they would rather see Hillary as opposed to Rand or Trump. You know this is true.

They would rather see Hillary than Rand because of the foreign policy issues. They would rather see Trump than Hillary but can read and know that Trump would lose in a Goldwater type landslide to Hillary.

 

[nikcers]

Maybe they see the polls that show him losing to Hillary by 15-20% and realize that they would just be handing Hillary the Presidency if Trump were nominated.

He was implying everyone that the mainstream media criticizes is considered a lesser evil and you legitimized his argument by responding. Obviously everyone the mainstream media puts through the ringer is a champion of morality now.

 

[AuH20]

They would rather see Hillary than Rand because of the foreign policy issues. They would rather see Trump than Hillary but can read and know that Trump would lose in a Goldwater type landslide to Hillary.

But Trump is far from a neocon hawk as well. He has publicly objected to Iraq & Afghanistan and then recently talked respectfully of Putin. Trump's only flaw has been in regard to Israel and even that sounds a bit forced.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

The average American can relate to Trump. Don't all New York billionaires relate to average Americans? He can feel our pain.

 

[nikcers]

But Trump is far from a neocon hawk as well. He has publicly objected to Iraq & Afghanistan and then recently talked respectfully of Putin. Trump's only flaw has been in regard to Israel and even that sounds a bit forced.

Sounds like he is Israels' bitch to me, I thought Trump would stand up to Russia and China, he doesn't even sound like someone who would stand up against Israel.

 

[Brett85]

But Trump is far from a neocon hawk as well. He has publicly objected to Iraq & Afghanistan and then recently talked respectfully of Putin. Trump's only flaw has been in regard to Israel and even that sounds a bit forced.

Maybe so, bit he's still more interventionist than Rand. Also, please vote in the poll that I created.

 

[jj-]

Maybe so, bit he's still more interventionist than Rand.

Trump is less interventionist than Rand. Rand proposes redrawing the map of the middle east and giving the Kurds a homeland, while Trump doesn't.

 

[Brett85]

Trump is less interventionist than Rand. Rand proposes redrawing the map of the middle east and giving the Kurds a homeland, while Trump doesn't.

Trump supports doubling or tripling the sanctions on Iran. Rand doesn't. You make too big of a deal about the thing with the Kurds. Rand says that just to sound "tough" without committing to send thousands of ground troops back to the Middle East. But it's something that would never happen.