Glenn Beck on Ron Paul

[Deborah K]

He can say that all he wants, but giving the government 100 years to phase out the warfare state is a great way to ensure that we will be at war for another 100 years.

They won't need 100 years to phase out war. They'll do it by convincing the masses that global governance (aka the NWO) will end all wars and finally create peace upon the earth. Think about it.

 

[AuH20]

I agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul. Aside from a violent revolution (which I support), we can't completely dismantle these bureaucratic departments instantaneously. Its just not feasible given the intentional barriers which have been erected.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

He was misrepresenting Ron Paul's positions so he could knock them down as a straw man. He should know better.

Can I get a face palm?

- If you really believe that Ladyjade then you shouldn't schedule Paul to be on Beck's shows ever again.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

I agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul. Aside from a violent revolution, we can't completely dismantle these bureaucratic departments instantaneously. Its just not feasible given the intentional barriers which have been erected.

- Exactly. If Paul were somehow magically elected the congress isn't going to just bend over and do whatever Paul wants to do. If he started abolishing departments via Executive Order they would impeach him. We have some on here who aren't looking at this realistically. There are alot of obstacles even after being president.

 

[Meatwasp]

Beck has just made himself irrelevant. The keyword is "compromise". If "libertarians" like Beck aim for what they think will be palatable instead of what they believe in, after the compromise, they will be 3/4 on the side they oppose and get maybe 1/4 of what they want. Do this 3 or 4 times and your position does not exist anymore.

ugh the thousand deaths of COMPROMISE

 

[rp08orbust]

I agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul. Aside from a violent revolution (which I support), we can't completely dismantle these bureaucratic departments instantaneously. Its just not feasible given the intentional barriers which have been erected.

When did Ron Paul ever claim that they could be dismantled "instantaneously"? He didn't: Glenn Beck put that idea in your head.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

- Oh good god. His 'handlers'? Are you kidding? That guy has been with Beck for many many YEARS.

So he's had that guy whispering in his ear for many years that Ron Paul is a loon?

You don't have to call him a "handler" if you don't want to. How about "influential co-worker"?

"Handler" might imply that somewhere along the line, someone else told him to steer Beck in a certain direction. No proof of that. Wouldn't call it unlikely though.

 

[constituent]

I agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul. Aside from a violent revolution (which I support), we can't completely dismantle these bureaucratic departments instantaneously. Its just not feasible given the intentional barriers which have been erected.

Once again, speaks volumes about you. Show me where Ron Paul said we can or should "completely dismantle... instantaneously."

He hasn't, so you agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul why again?

('cuz he's on t.v., that's why!)

 

[AuH20]

All respect that i had for Glenn Beck was just thrown out the window...

C'mon. There is no greater ally in the media for Ron Paul than Beck. He just compared him to the Founding Fathers? How is that bad?

 

[AuH20]

Once again, speaks volumes about you. Show me where Ron Paul said we can or should "completely dismantle... instantaneously."

He hasn't, so you agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul why again?

Ron Paul implied this during his stump speeches, but its debatable whether he truly didn't mean a rapid dissolution of some of these departments. Thats what Beck was discussing. It sounds crazy to the average person who reads People religiously and has TMZ on their favorite bookmarks.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

C'mon. There is no greater ally in the media for Ron Paul than Beck. He just compared him to the Founding Fathers? How is that bad?

- Some think it's bad for anyone to not agree with Paul on every detail. If you don't agree 110% you're a neo-con shill. LOL

 

[reduen]

i disagree. I think beck gets ron paul and agrees with him. All i heard in this video was beck explaining why the average (stupid, uninformed) person thinks that ron paul sounds crazy. What i hear is that he agrees on objective, he disagrees on strategy (kind of like the difference between people on this forum, some think the thermite report shouls be in hot topics, some people thing it should be in general politics.)

i don't think gb is 100% awake yet, but i do think he is getting there. Anyone that would discard beck over this segment either wasn't lilstening or only heard what they wanted to hear.

The worst offense i heard was him being dismissive of the trilateral commision, he obviously still thanks tlc is still "conspiracy talk" or at least he thinks that will play well with his audience. Gb is definitely a mixed bag, but i still think he is the best we got and i think he is coming around more and more.

+1

 

[pcosmar]

- I had to roll my eyes when the lady started talking about "Trilats" as if the Trilats control the world. She made herself, Paul, and his supporters look goofy and overly paranoid. Not only was it what she said but she shouldn't even be calling him about this anyway. Who gives a F? Beck has had the man on when no one else would touch him. I think Beck is bipolar BUT calling him and saying what she said is flat out dumb. The campaign has been over for a long time. Beck is right, why didn't she call Rush or Hannity or Levin or ANYONE who's not had him on more than Beck? Good grief. She obviously meant well but she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer obviously.

Still trying to dumb down the opposition.

Trilateral Commission

From wiki quick reference only

The Trilateral Commission is a private organization, established to foster closer cooperation between United States, Europe and Japan. It was founded in July 1973, at the initiative of David Rockefeller; who was Chairman of the Council on Foreign Relations at that time. The Trilateral Commission is widely seen as a counterpart to the Council on Foreign Relations.[

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOk6ENxyAh0

The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power– political, monetary, intellectual and ecclesiastical. What the Trilateral Commission intends is to create a worldwide economic power superior to the political governments of the nation-states involved. As managers and creators of the system, they will rule the future.

Barry Goldwater, former Republican Presidential nominee in “With No Apologies”

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Once again, speaks volumes about you. Show me where Ron Paul said we can or should "completely dismantle... instantaneously."

He hasn't, so you agree with Beck completely about Ron Paul why again?

('cuz he's on t.v., that's why!)

Paul gave people misconceptions. For instance, Paul repeatedly said "get rid of the department of education" and the average person thinks he's talking about all public schools when Paul really meant the FEDERAL department, not state. Saying things like that without clarification throws the average person off.

 

[constituent]

Ron Paul implied this during his stump speeches, whether he didn't truly mean a rapid dissolution of some of these departments.

on implication... you might be right. but on the other hand, rp frequently mentioned "not overnight." i'm reminded of the lady whose npr program he visited early in the campaign, the one who requested a donation for unicef.

 

[AuH20]

- Some think it's bad for anyone to not agree with Paul on every detail. If you don't agree 110% you're a neo-con shill. LOL

At the end of the day, its all about exposure of the Ron Paul message. We can fight each other over meaningless trivialities in our little cyberbubble, but ultimately we're all on the same side. We revere the constitution and promote liberty. It may sound corny but I consider everyone here to be my brother.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Still trying to dumb down the opposition.

Trilateral Commission

From wiki quick reference only

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOk6ENxyAh0

- When you stop wearing makeup like a child at the fair I'll start taking you seriously, pcosmar.

 

[pcosmar]

- When you stop wearing makeup like a child at the fair I'll start taking you seriously, pcosmar.

I could give a shit what you think of me. I have not been convinced that you think at all.

If people don't present the truth , then all they (the ignorant masses) have to go on is the distortions of the MSM.

"The most powerful cliques in these elitist groups (Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission, and others) have ONE objective--to bring about the surrender of the sovereignty and independence of the United States of America. A second clique of international members in the CFR comprises the Wall Street international bankers and their key agents. Primarily, they want the world banking monopoly from whatever power ends up in the control of GLOBAL GOVERNMENT. They would probably prefer that this be an ALL POWERFUL UNITED NATIONS ORGANIZATION; but they are also prepared to deal with and for a ONE-WORLD GOVERNMENT controlled by the Soviet communists if U.S. sovereignty is ever surrendered to them." ― Rear Admiral Chester Ward — former CFR member, Review of the News Apr. 9 1980 pg. 37 (Unseen Hand pg. 197)

"The Trilateral commissions most immediate concern is the creation of a NEW WORLD MONETARY system to replace gold and the dollar as the international exchange with a new currency called Special Drawing Rights (SDRs)." ― Jeremiah Novak, American Opinion July 1977 pg. 12 (Unseen Hand pg. 240)

“These master (Council on Foreign Relations and the Trilateral Commission) interests are working in concert with the masters of the Kremlin in order to create A NEW WORLD ORDER.” ― Senator Jesse Helms

This is not some "Conspiracy Theory" to be brushed off the table and swept away.
These are relevant issues that the ignorant NEED to be informed of.

 

[RonPaulMania]

What Beck says is the fundamental issue why people will never come to the message of liberty. People are so brainwashed and people like Ron Paul are ideologues (which isn't bad at all). Ron Paul preaches the pristine ideas of liberty and what Beck said makes perfect sense.

You are not going to repeat some of the things Paul said on the stumping grounds without losing many people simply because it sounds radical.

Listen to Daniel Hannan the last few days. He is eloquent and picks his topics well. I think a Hannan-type would win in this country, but not a Paul type. Paul is so strict on his beliefs he won't realize that not mentioning his ideas explicitly is not commensurate with compromise.

 

[AuH20]

I could give a shit what you think of me. I have not been convinced that you think at all.

If people don't present the truth , then all they have to go on is the distortions of the MSM.






This is not some "Conspiracy Theory" to be brushed off the table and swept away.
These are relevant issues that the ignorant NEED to be informed of.

I agree but that woman should have explained the Trilat Commission to Beck in a rational manner. You just don't drop off the Trilat commission in an impromptu conversation. The distribution of the Ron Paul message is equivalent to building a house. We need a foundation first and we go from there. That doesn't necessarily mean that the message needs to be diluted like Goldwater's became.