Glenn Beck on Ron Paul

I find it puzzling.
During the Campaign it became clear that the MSM was manipulating stories. The fact that they are a Propaganda Arm was quite clear.
Now we have folks presenting Hermann Goering as our friend. And we should embrace the system's Propaganda.
Puzzling.:confused:

Anyone who recommends the "5000 year leap" can't be that bad. FOX is playing with fire by giving him a microphone, no matter his agenda.
 
Glen, I call Bullshit!


I call Bullshit. You can get elected and make drastic changes immediately once your in office it's a matter of timing and the right environment of voter support and elected persons. Gosh Glen just look at the current administration which has been swept into office and already signed into law THE LARGEST SPENDING BILL IN THE HISTORY OF THE WORLD. I call Bullshit. people WILL get tierd of all this crap and want our changes and welcome the abolishment of the IRS overnight. I call Bullshit. We the people will wake up one morning (if it hasn't happened already) and realize our grandchildrens future is been pilaged to support overseas agendas. I call Bullshit. people will look to each other one day and wonder where did our sovereignty go. I call Bullshit. When the dollar loses more of it's value and becomes worthless (per GB views) people WILL demand to abolish The FED and return to sound money. I call Bullshit to the notion that we must wait an additional 150-200 years in order for things and others "to come around" and slowly be spoon fed. This country and your freedoms do NOT have that kind of time. BY then it will all be over if we are to continue down this same party path. Glen, I call BULLSHIT!
 
Anyone who recommends the "5000 year leap" can't be that bad. FOX is playing with fire by giving him a microphone, no matter his agenda.

I agree. And what the anti-media folks seem to forget is that Beck is reaching the sleeping in a way that we have never been able to. Perhaps he is co-opting our message. That is debatable. But the fact remains, we need to infiltrate the media. I've been saying that for years now. We're starting to. Our message is getting mainstreamed. This is making it easier to bring people to the freedom message. If this is the goal, it is mine, then make the best of it. We need to use this opportunity to our advantage.
 
This is where I vehemently disagree with Beck. I don't see a peaceful solution to this "enormous" problem we have. I'm sorry. Blood is going to have to run in the streets before the pigs in D.C. realize their errors. The system has been arranged in such a way that real, transformative change is nearly impossible to accomplish via political conduits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLbJKiIhDzg

I agree with a lot of what Beck has to say and think he is a big liberty ally but I heard that interview the other day and I agree that he is completely wrong. We will need the military to defect against the government if we ever want things to change, otherwise they will just use them to control any uprising. He was 100% wrong in this conversation. That being said if you had an audience of millions would you want to vocally support violence... someone will misconstrue it and cause a terrorism act in your name which would be the end of your career.

The only way this doesn't if violently 1) submission 2) Complete economic collapse and splinter states (countries) forming...ala Russia ... I had been holding out for peaceful resolution but I just don't see that possible anymore, we have crossed the peaceful resolution line.
 
I've effectively used Beck's clips to get people thinking about being more prepared, and that Washington D.C. does not have all the answers, and in fact are a bunch of sociopathic idiots.

So everyone can sit on here and bellyache and moan about how Beck is evil and the media is evil and how TV is evil. Clearly this is much more productive than using the media itself to help people unlock their freedom-loving American spirit.

I get it now. Treading water is paramount.
 
I've effectively used Beck's clips to get people thinking about being more prepared, and that Washington D.C. does not have all the answers, and in fact are a bunch of sociopathic idiots.

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Understandable. I will use him too.
I also USE the Un and CFR sites and documents. That does not make them "my Friend" or "on my side".
I am glad that some are being awakened, but I suspect that is not the real intention.
I think it is to provoke. I suspect they want a reaction from the more unstable elements, to give them an excuse to respond.
Just because they say things that we can use, does not mean that was their purpose.
But USE them, Hell use anything to wake people up. Just don't trust them.
 
Understandable. I will use him too.
I also USE the Un and CFR sites and documents. That does not make them "my Friend" or "on my side".
I am glad that some are being awakened, but I suspect that is not the real intention.
I think it is to provoke. I suspect they want a reaction from the more unstable elements, to give them an excuse to respond.
Just because they say things that we can use, does not mean that was their purpose.
But USE them, Hell use anything to wake people up. Just don't trust them.

If it is true that they are trying to provoke a response, then they are provoking the wrong response. The last time Mike Scheuer was on Glenn Beck he got more hate mail than he ever has before. I'm sure Glenn did too. Mike hasn't been invited back on either. Here is the clip that provoked his 'ban': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWfLp7VqjRk
 
If it is true that they are trying to provoke a response, then they are provoking the wrong response. The last time Mike Scheuer was on Glenn Beck he got more hate mail than he ever has before. I'm sure Glenn did too. Mike hasn't been invited back on either. Here is the clip that provoked his 'ban': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWfLp7VqjRk

Beck doesn't have the stomach for the coming fight. You can see it in his reaction. He almost went pale when Scheuer point blank told him what the problem is.
 
His point is entirely valid. Ron Paul to an extent, and many in our movement to a larger extent, fail to present our ideas in a way that people will find receptive in our current state of affairs. Which is why most see us as crazy and irrational.

Here I can agree with what is being said about Beck and Paul.
 
I actually kinda agree with the spoon feed the people thing. People are so brainwashed that the masses cannot imagine abolishing the IRS. Kinda like the question "who will build the roads?" The masses are too dependent on government. Campaigning is like selling someone something. Tell them just enough to get their money(vote) then do everything you said you would just somethings you may do might be a lil hard for them to see why.
 
I actually kinda agree with the spoon feed the people thing. People are so brainwashed that the masses cannot imagine abolishing the IRS. Kinda like the question "who will build the roads?" The masses are too dependent on government. Campaigning is like selling someone something. Tell them just enough to get their money(vote) then do everything you said you would just somethings you may do might be a lil hard for them to see why.

A perfect example of people being brainwashed is the topic of legalizing marijuana, the free thinker says "Legalize it!" the brainwashed slave to the system says "Legalize it AND tax it!"
 
A perfect example of people being brainwashed is the topic of legalizing marijuana, the free thinker says "Legalize it!" the brainwashed slave to the system says "Legalize it AND tax it!"

And some just say "decriminalize it"...
 
Definite downer. Beck was being a BIG douchebag. That lady really didn't have any true criticism, or at least she didn't get to it at that point. He just went paranoid and nuts. Beck is dropping points in my book.

What BECK doesn't understand is that libertarians have very rarely suggested abolishing things left and right like he has this false concept about. Quick, precise acts to tear apart bureaucracy can be maneuvered, but I don't think Ron Paul ever truly meant he would knock out the IRS on his first day in office. Also, the Trilateral commission is crucial. These are the true builders of global policy. The UN is much too far out in the open to make real advancement of the globalist agenda. Trilateral intrusion into US policies IS the problem. And the War in Iraq needs to be stopped NOW! Not 30 years from now. RIGHT NOW! That is something we can do within 6 months with ease. War makes no allies, just enemies.

So STFU Glenn! It gets harder and harder to defend you when you speak diarrhea.
 
I actually agree with Beck that is not practical to think or say we should abolish the FBI, IRS, overnight.
First, we have to change people's hearts and minds, not scare them away. I disagree with him on many of his other points.

I think we should approach Beck differently, and call him out on things such as the patriot act, torture, and wiretapping, which he supports or had supported. THe man is still very inconsistant on many things.
 
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