Glenn Beck on Ron Paul

[dr. hfn]

He isn't as radical as us. The end.

 

[jcarcinogen]

He isn't as radical as us. The end.

+1

I agree. Islamofascism is neocon nomenclature used for political purposes, but it still doesn't dispel beheadings done in the name of Allah.

Also, have you heard about the beheadings in the name of corruption and violence thanks to the Drug War, another War neocons and Statists believe in?

google 'mexico beheadings' in the news part
the latest article from Reuters glazes over it in the second paragraph here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5325PG20090403

Allah had nothing to do with these and Mexico is more dangerous than Iraq now.
Mexico city is now the kidnapping capital of the world and Phoenix, AZ is in second place beating Baghdad, the 2008's GOP candidate's state.

WATCH THE PHOENIX LINK.

k, thx, bye.

 

[bunklocoempire]

Beck, a classic Ameri-CANT.

Apparently a “founder” like Ron Paul is wasted on Beck.

That is, according to Beck, one championing the message of Liberty apparently can’t get elected.

Soooo…. men with principles and Constitutional voting records can’t get elected, yet, we are to believe those who do not have Constitutional voting records or principles

will somehow return a country to those things which they are lacking, once they get elected.

Cry me a river Beck.

Bunkloco

 

[constituent]

You don't think Islamofascism is real? Look, the wackjob Arabs are Israel's problem but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Theres alot of dark, sinister places in the world where we should not be interfering.

1) You can't even define islamofascism. It's a bullshit term, no surprise that you'd be here parroting it.

2) The wackjob Arabs?

Their belligerent nature is rooted in the Qur'an.

Where do they find these kids? What must their parents have been like?

 

[sailor]

Beck, a classic Ameri-CANT.

Apparently a “founder” like Ron Paul is wasted on Beck.

That is, according to Beck, one championing the message of Liberty apparently can’t get elected.

Soooo…. men with principles and Constitutional voting records can’t get elected, yet, we are to believe those who do not have Constitutional voting records or principles

will somehow return a country to those things which they are lacking, once they get elected.

Cry me a river Beck.

Bunkloco

Superb point.

Beck invokes the founders alot. But actually the founders would have been appauled with his fascist foreign policy.

The man is pathetic. His own supposed role models would frown on him.

 

[sailor]

He isn't as radical as us. The end.

He is pretty radical. When it comes to bombing places.

 

[A. Havnes]

Faux Snooze fires investigative reporters for telling the truth.
The ONLY reason he is there is because he presents their story their way.

If he did not he would be gone.

Here is a full documentary that the other clip was from.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6632255652046262625

It is worth the time ,. (1 hour)

This.

 

[constituent]

He is pretty radical. When it comes to bombing places.

Agreed. Beck is the jihadi he fears.

 

[AuH20]

+1



Also, have you heard about the beheadings in the name of corruption and violence thanks to the Drug War, another War neocons and Statists believe in?

google 'mexico beheadings' in the news part
the latest article from Reuters glazes over it in the second paragraph here:
http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSTRE5325PG20090403

Allah had nothing to do with these and Mexico is more dangerous than Iraq now.
Mexico city is now the kidnapping capital of the world and Phoenix, AZ is in second place beating Baghdad, the 2008's GOP candidate's state.

WATCH THE PHOENIX LINK.

k, thx, bye.

Its a major problem that their dominant religious scripture advocates beheadings. And they take the Qur'an quite literal as opposed to some other religious groups:

Quranic verses that dictate beheading Kaffirs (heathen):

5:33-�The punishment of those who wage war against Allah and His Messenger, and strive with might and main for mischief through the land is: execution (by beheading), or crucifixion, or the cutting off of hands and feet from opposite sides, or exile from the land: that is their disgrace in this world, and a heavy punishment is theirs in the Hereafter;�

8:12- �I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off.�

47:4- �Therefore, when ye meet the Unbelievers (in fight), strike off their heads; at length; then when you have made wide Slaughter among them, carefully tie up the remaining captives�: thereafter (is the time for) either generosity or ransom: Until the war lays down its burdens.�

9:123: �Oh ye who believe! Murder those of the disbelievers and let them find harshness in you.�

2:191- �Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from wherever they drove you out.�

5: 45-- �We ordained therein for them: �Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear. Toth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal.�

2:193- �Fight them on until there is no more tumult and religion becomes that of Allah�

9:29- "Fight those who do not believe in God and the last day... and fight People of the Book, (Christian and Jews) who do not accept the religion of truth (Islam) until they pay tribute (Zizziya tax) by hand, being inferior.�

8:17-It is not ye who Slew them; it is God; when thou threwest a handful of dust, it was not Thy act, but God�s�..� (Allah is a real merciful indeed!)

 

[AuH20]

1) You can't even define islamofascism. It's a bullshit term, no surprise that you'd be here parroting it.

2) The wackjob Arabs?

C'mon. Are you serious? You're going to dismiss the lethality of the Islamic fanatics so it conveniently lines up with your world view? Just because they don't pose a national security risk to the United States doesn't mean they aren't deranged.

Where do they find these kids? What must their parents have been like?

Please don't be so dismissive. There aren't absolutes in the world. We probably agree on 90% of the issues but I'm apparently too impure.

 

[constituent]

Its a major problem that their dominant religious scripture advocates beheadings. And they take the Qur'an quite literal as opposed to some other religious groups:

Quranic verses that dictate beheading Kaffirs (heathen):

So it is that Conservatism, throughout history, has regarded man neither as a potential pawn of other men, nor as a part of a general collectivity in which the sacredness and the separate identity of individual human beings are ignored.

 

[Carole]

Glenn Beck on Ron Paul : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_RItFJrFGQ

Beck has a habit of misrepresenting Dr. Paul, especially when Beck regurgitates the stuff about Dr. Paul wanting to abolish the departments overnight. And bring the troops home overnight.

Dr. Paul knows these things cannot be done immediatelyl

However, the ONE thing that could change everything is to abolish the FED.

Once the Fed is gone all the other things begin to fall away, especially the war on terror and many subsidies. etc.

The Fed is the driving force behind all our problems.

 

[AuH20]

Originally Posted by Barry Goldwater, Conscience of a Conservative
So it is that Conservatism, throughout history, has regarded man neither as a potential pawn of other men, nor as a part of a general collectivity in which the sacredness and the separate identity of individual human beings are ignored.

Barry Goldwater on religious abuse:

There is no position on which people are so immovable as their religious beliefs. There is no more powerful ally one can claim in a debate than Jesus Christ, or God, or Allah, or whatever one calls this supreme being.

 

[AuH20]

This is where I vehemently disagree with Beck. I don't see a peaceful solution to this "enormous" problem we have. I'm sorry. Blood is going to have to run in the streets before the pigs in D.C. realize their errors. The system has been arranged in such a way that real, transformative change is nearly impossible to accomplish via political conduits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLbJKiIhDzg

 

[pcosmar]

C'mon. Are you serious? You're going to dismiss the lethality of the Islamic fanatics so it conveniently lines up with your world view? Just because they don't pose a national security risk to the United States doesn't mean they aren't deranged.




Please don't be so dismissive. There aren't absolutes in the world. We probably agree on 90% of the issues but I'm apparently too impure.

Please don't be so ignorant of the facts. Beheading has long been a method of execution.
It is not limited to Islam.

The guillotine was then the only legal execution method in France until the abolition of the death penalty in 1981, apart from certain crimes against the security of the state, which entailed execution by firing squad

.

In 1933 Hitler had a guillotine constructed and tested. He was impressed enough to order 20 more constructed and pressed into immediate service.[3] Nazi records indicate that between 1933 and 1945, 16,500 people were executed in Germany and Austria by this method.[3] In Nazi Germany, beheading by guillotine was the usual method of executing convicted criminals as opposed to political enemies, who were usually[citation needed] either hanged or shot. By the middle of the war, however, policy changed: the six members of the White Rose anti-Nazi resistance organisation were beheaded in 1943, as were a hundred or more conscientious objectors from that date, including Franz Jägerstätter, beheaded in Berlin on August 9, 1943. The last execution in what would later become West Germany took place on May 11, 1949, when 24-year-old Berthold Wehmeyer was beheaded in Moabit prison, West Berlin, for murder and robbery. When West Germany was formed in 1949, its constitution prohibited the death penalty; East Germany abolished it in 1987, and Austria in 1968.

What difference the method makes is irrelevant. Dead is dead.

 

[pcosmar]

This is where I vehemently disagree with Beck. I don't see a peaceful solution to this "enormous" problem we have. I'm sorry. Blood is going to have to run in the streets before the pigs in D.C. realize their errors. The system has been arranged in such a way that real, transformative change is nearly impossible to accomplish via political conduits.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLbJKiIhDzg

There he is pushing the Timothy McVeigh Bullshit again.

McVeigh DID NOT blow up the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building.

That is a propaganda LIE.

Come on folks , They are doing it again.

 

[Cowlesy]

Having been more of a spectator in these threads rather than being a dart thrower, these threads always go down the same way.

First, the discourse starts out balanced between opposing views.

Next, the pragmatists get worn out trying to use the pieces of what he (in this case, Beck) says to our advantage, and leave the thread.

Near the end, the anti-whatever-topic (in this case, Beck) folks starting arguing with themselves about how awful the topic is.

Finally, the entire thread turns into something completely off-topic, or nothing but personal or general insults at a person or set of people.

If it were worth something I really could write a book about observation of behavior on here

 

[pcosmar]

If it were worth something I really could write a book about observation of behavior on here

I find it puzzling.
During the Campaign it became clear that the MSM was manipulating stories. The fact that they are a Propaganda Arm was quite clear.
Now we have folks presenting Hermann Goering as our friend. And we should embrace the system's Propaganda.
Puzzling.

 

[Bossobass]

Beck "schools" his fans that Ron's ideas to dismantle the gargantuan, uselessly unconstitutional federal departments and foreign policies basically ain't gonna happen in your lifetime, yet...

He makes a fortune whining about how Paulson and Geithner and Bushie and Obanana and Bernanke usurped the Treasury department, misappropriated trillions and bailed out the perpetrators of the financial crisis in 90 days.

Conveniently, if Reagan said we need to eliminate the Department of Education, he was an adorable Saint to be revered by all, but if Ron said it, Ron was a pipe dreaming Libertarian Kook.

These guys are all the same. They don't care one bit to influence elections (because they aren't allowed to), they just whine about or deify the idiot who wins (because that's their job).

It keeps them in a job and keeps Americans divided and accomplishes nothing else.

The blatant invasion and occupation of Iraq through thousands of counts of fraud and the USA Patriot Act are 2 of the most despicable acts in the history of America, yet Beck proudly aided and abetted those acts.

And he has the balls to call RP crazy?

For the 9 millionth time...fuck that doughboy asswipe. If he's your agent for change, see ya in 25 years, and good luck with that. The only thing Americans learn watching TV is what toothpaste is recommended by most dentists and which paper towel is the most absorbent.

Bosso

 

[sailor]

Next, the pragmatists get worn out trying to use the pieces of what he (in this case, Beck) says to our advantage, and leave the thread.

The moral of the story is very obvious. The pragmatics don`t have what it takes!