Glenn Beck on Ron Paul

[Brian4Liberty]

Who controls the media?

We had many threads during the campaign about who controls the media, and why they were biased against Ron Paul. That interview was a prime example.

I assume that the unseen voice was Glenn Beck's producer? Did you notice how he was much more aggressive in making fun of Ron Paul, twisting Ron Paul's message (especially about blow-back), poo-pooing the TLC?

The media is controlled at all levels, by like minded individuals, but never underestimate the influence of the low level producers, editors, etc...

 

[DAFTEK]

"I'm a libertarian". . . It sounds dirty when it comes from him.

I'm not a Libertarian, should i pack my bags discredit RP and go just because?

For all i care Libertarians, Democrats, Republicans, and all of the rest of them can GFTS!

I was a true believer in Ronald Reagan republican until Bush's turned me off to them! The more parties the more we drift to Socialism/Communism.

I don't believe in any party anymore but i will always be a RR Republican! I believe in moral right and wrong to a certain degree and believe the Constitution to be more important then a bible or religion and that's why i was attracted to Ron Paul and alike. Am i wrong?

 

[sailor]

I think the point Beck makes starting at 4:30 in the video makes his argument completely valid. He doesn't think Ron Paul is a kook, he thinks the way Ron goes about conveying his ideas makes him sound like a kook to the average person who needs a message like that spoon fed to them a little at a time, because they're so used to the main stream ideas. After decades of being built up to think all these government programs are good for us and we cannot function without them, being told we should shut them all down as soon as possible is going to get the average person nervous.

No that is not true. We seem like kooks to people, because the media present us as kooks to people. That is media including Glen Beck. In fact he is one of the worst hacks n this regard. Tinfoil hat people anyone?

Crybaby Beck can go cry me a river.. He is such a capital L loser in the brains department...

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

All respect that i had for Glenn Beck was just thrown out the window...

Why? You guys are over analyzing this, about like everything else. Beck has had the man on more than anyone yet folks here spend more time bitching about him than others. Rediculous.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Anyway, Glenn Beck is right that it will take time to eliminate all those departments. But Ron Paul has explained that he doesn't actually believe we can take them all out in one week. He brings up his positions to let people know that they should not exist. Does Glenn Beck have a point that by saying he wants to eliminate the "IRS, FBI, CIA, Federal Reserve, etc." all in one sentence made Dr. Paul sound like a kook? Maybe so, but it took a lot of courage and honesty to say those things.

Well, Ron became a little more "realistic" later on in the campaign.

Ron's shtick (same on most of his stump speeches, even before the election), was "I will eliminate the IRS on the first day, the Fed on this day, the Dept of Education on this day" etc. I always took it as a humorous way to explain his priorities. It got a lot of applause. It energized people. I never took it seriously (or believed that Ron was 100% serious at the time). Later on, Ron went into more detail about how those changes would take time, but it may have been too late. He was already branded as a crazy, and that's the way the majority of the media wanted it.

Glenn Beck didn't do us any favors by repeating that "humorous" example as if that was actually Ron Paul's complete position on what could realistically be accomplished.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

No that is not true. We seem like kooks to people, because the media present us as kooks to people. That is media including Glen Beck. In fact he is one of the worst hacks n this regard. Tinfoil hat people anyone?

Crybaby Beck can go cry me a river.. He is such a capital L loser in the brains department...

Sorry, yes, that IS true. Beck is saying that you can't dismantle the entire country in a week and you have to be careful talking about dismantling things b/c it looks rediculous to the general public. That's the truth.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

By Glenn Beck's reasoning, the US should have gradually phased out slavery over 100 years (or even longer--slavery, after all, had been around for 300 years!) instead of banning it with one rash amendment.

Isn't that how most of the world phased it out? Gradually?

 

[rp08orbust]

Glenn Beck didn't do us any favors by repeating that "humorous" example as if that was actually Ron Paul's complete position on what could realistically be accomplished.

Glenn knows he's misrepresenting Ron Paul by exaggerating the speed with which Ron Paul thinks he could implement his agenda. There is something about Ron Paul that annoys Glenn Beck to the point where he could never fully respect him, even if he ends up agreeing with Ron 100% one day.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Stopping the wars would be the first place to stop the bleeding while reforming the monetary system and the FED.

In all fairness, stopping the bail-outs would be easy. There is a lot of work involved in bringing troops back though.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Glenn knows he's misrepresenting Ron Paul by exaggerating the speed with which Ron Paul thinks he could implement his agenda. There is something about Ron Paul that annoys Glenn Beck to the point where he could never fully respect him, even if he ends up agreeing with Ron 100% one day.

Yeah. I also think the unseen voices influence Beck. You heard the reinforcement on that video. Beck has his handlers.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

We had many threads during the campaign about who controls the media, and why they were biased against Ron Paul. That interview was a prime example.

I assume that the unseen voice was Glenn Beck's producer? Did you notice how he was much more aggressive in making fun of Ron Paul, twisting Ron Paul's message (especially about blow-back), poo-pooing the TLC?

The media is controlled at all levels, by like minded individuals, but never underestimate the influence of the low level producers, editors, etc...

- I had to roll my eyes when the lady started talking about "Trilats" as if the Trilats control the world. She made herself, Paul, and his supporters look goofy and overly paranoid. Not only was it what she said but she shouldn't even be calling him about this anyway. Who gives a F? Beck has had the man on when no one else would touch him. I think Beck is bipolar BUT calling him and saying what she said is flat out dumb. The campaign has been over for a long time. Beck is right, why didn't she call Rush or Hannity or Levin or ANYONE who's not had him on more than Beck? Good grief. She obviously meant well but she's not the sharpest knife in the drawer obviously.

 

[sailor]

Sorry, yes, that IS true. Beck is saying that you can't dismantle the entire country in a week and you have to be careful talking about dismantling things b/c it looks rediculous to the general public. That's the truth.

Beck is a moron.

He doesn`t have an argument to say against Paul so he goes on about some petty shit.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Yeah. I also think the unseen voices influence Beck. You heard the reinforcement on that video. Beck has his handlers.

- Oh good god. His 'handlers'? Are you kidding? That guy has been with Beck for many many YEARS.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Beck is a moron.

He doesn`t have an argument to say against Paul so he goes on about some petty shit.

Uh... he just said in the video that he agrees with getting rid of all the things Paul says we should abolish, the difference is how to go about doing it. I don't know what some of you expect. Everyone is never going to agree with everyone on everything.

 

[rp08orbust]

Isn't that how most of the world phased it out? Gradually?

It was gradually phased out over (most of) the globe, but within each jurisdiction, there was, at some specific point in time, an emancipation of slaves.

 

[rp08orbust]

Uh... he just said in the video that he agrees with getting rid of all the things Paul says we should abolish

He can say that all he wants, but giving the government 100 years to phase out the warfare state is a great way to ensure that we will be at war for another 100 years.

 

[StilesBC]

I still remain a Beck skeptic. But I agreed with him more than I didn't in this clip. I can't say that for many other people I've had the misfortune of listening to...

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

Look at the ACTUAL meaning of conspiracy.



How much of that actually matches up to what goes on in Congress these days?

- Over analyzing. Consipiracy is viewed two different ways 1) Kookery 2) non-kookery

Theocrat is talking about the kookery version.

 

[TheConstitutionLives]

wow. Glenn Beck still doesn't get it. Sad....

I think it's the lady who doesn't get it. She shouldn't even be calling Beck about this when the man has had him on more than anyone. Everyone keeps forgetting that.

 

[ClayTrainor]

I think it's the lady who doesn't get it. She shouldn't even be calling Beck about this when the man has had him on more than anyone. Everyone keeps forgetting that.

It is a valid point...