(WND) Hawaii guv can't find Obama birth certificate

[TNforPaul45]

Gov. Abercrombie cannot find Obama's long form birth certificate, after vowing by his blood to end this "false controversy." Well I wonder why. . .

http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=252833

Suggesting he was still intent on producing more birth records on Obama from the Hawaii Department of Health vital records vault, Abercrombie told the newspaper there was a recording of the Obama birth in the state archives that he wants to make public.

Abercrombie did not report to the newspaper that he or the Hawaii Department of Health had found Obama's long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate. The governor only suggested his investigations to date had found an unspecified listing or notation of Obama's birth that someone had made in the state archives.

"It was actually written, I am told, this is what our investigation is showing, it actually exists in the archives, written down," Abercrombie said. . .

It's there, there's a notation about it, someone wrote a note, in pencil, about his birth, I think it's on a cocktail napkin. His was such a radiant birth that there are hundreds of cocktail napkins int he state archives, in the "obama" file. What, these have "Happy New Year 2000" on them? NO NO that's ok, ignore that!

They cannot even produce the "unspecified, written notation," just saying that "he was told about it." Such incredible BS.

WND previously reported the Hawaii Department of Health has refused to authenticate the COLB posted on the Internet by Snopes.com and FactCheck.org.

WND has reported that in 1961, Obama's grandparents, Stanley and Madelyn Dunham, could have made an in-person report of a Hawaii birth even if the infant Barack Obama Jr. had been foreign-born.

Similarly, the newspaper announcements of Obama's birth do not prove he was born in Hawaii, since they could have been triggered by the grandparents registering the birth as Hawaiian, even if the baby was born elsewhere.

See the link for more.

 

[Bruno]

So far the "investigation" has shown that someone says it is actually written down somewhere. Wow, how convincing!

 

[Anti Federalist]

I haven't been beating this particular drum, but it sure is starting to look like there's some smoke here.

 

[oyarde]

I haven't been beating this particular drum, but it sure is starting to look like there's some smoke here.

Does now , when you get a Gov. stumblin' & bumblin ' .

 

[Brett85]

How convenient.

 

[TNforPaul45]

I haven't been beating this particular drum, but it sure is starting to look like there's some smoke here.

I'm in the same boat as you AF. I've been watching it from afar, not agreeing with either side who are hasty for a decision one way or the other. But if you look at the whole picture of Obama, there is something, wrong, down at the core of this story, maybe something no one has guessed yet.

- His grandmother said he was born in Kenya
- He changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama (or his parents changed it for him)
- His Columbia school records, even papers he wrote, grades, everything, are sealed up tight. The faculty up there are protecting him from something, big time.
- No one can produce a long form birth certificate (though this in itself is not a clincher, I checked at my house last month, and I couldn't find mine, just a Cert. of Live Birth from TN)
- They came here, he was supposedly "born" here, then he was hauled off two weeks later back to Indonesia or wherever and spent a decade there. Doesn't sound right.
- The newspaper announcement was supposedly made by his Grandparents in Hawaii. I wonder if a phone call was placed while he was born abroad saying "put that in the paper so that we can say he was an American born baby." If I was his parents, I would do it too. The "stupid americans" as they probably thought, wouldn't know the difference. And with a COLB, they could say he was a Natural Born and guarantee him citizenship privileges later in life. The thought of him being Pres. probably didn't even enter their minds, they were just looking out for their baby. If you were a foreign parent in the 50's/60's, having your baby be an American was the holy grail of opportunity for it.

 

[jmdrake]

- No one can produce a long form birth certificate (though this in itself is not a clincher, I checked at my house last month, and I couldn't find mine, just a Cert. of Live Birth from TN)

Just to be clear, you haven't checked with the state to see if they could find it either right? They should have a copy on file. If someone Obama's age was unable to locate a long form BC anywhere then I'd be somewhat willing to give him a pass on that.

Anyhow, I wish this would just get settled one way or another. Oh yeah and "In before someone calls everyone raising questions racist conspiracy nuts".

 

[Bruno]

Original announcement from the Hawaii Governor regarding birth certificate

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...te-once-and-for-all&highlight=hawaii+governor

 

[purplechoe]

yeah, it's pretty funny in retrospect...

 

[jmdrake]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showth...te-once-and-for-all&highlight=hawaii+governor

Are you cooking this up for the naysayers?

 

[TNforPaul45]

Just to be clear, you haven't checked with the state to see if they could find it either right? They should have a copy on file. If someone Obama's age was unable to locate a long form BC anywhere then I'd be somewhat willing to give him a pass on that.

Anyhow, I wish this would just get settled one way or another. Oh yeah and "In before someone calls everyone raising questions racist conspiracy nuts".

Hey JM, no I've not done that yet. Out of curiosity, I just got my birth certificates out and saw that they were Live Birth documents. Though the ones i have I requested from the state two years ago and they sent them to me, but no, I've not specifically asked for my long forms yet. I remember, way back in the cobwebs of my mind, seeing one for me when I was little though, do not know where its at.

 

[HealthWyze]

You would have thought that he wouldn't have said anything about 'ending the controversy' until he had actually found something to show people.

 

[2young2vote]

I can go and get a birth certificate real quickly. Why can't the governor do the same for Obama? Maybe they had bad recording practices during the time that he was born. Wouldn't surprise me because it is the government after all.

 

[oyarde]

You would have thought that he wouldn't have said anything about 'ending the controversy' until he had actually found something to show people.

Yeah , wth ?

 

[Anti Federalist]

I'm in the same boat as you AF. I've been watching it from afar, not agreeing with either side who are hasty for a decision one way or the other. But if you look at the whole picture of Obama, there is something, wrong, down at the core of this story, maybe something no one has guessed yet.

- His grandmother said he was born in Kenya
- He changed his name to Barack Hussein Obama (or his parents changed it for him)
- His Columbia school records, even papers he wrote, grades, everything, are sealed up tight. The faculty up there are protecting him from something, big time.
- No one can produce a long form birth certificate (though this in itself is not a clincher, I checked at my house last month, and I couldn't find mine, just a Cert. of Live Birth from TN)
- They came here, he was supposedly "born" here, then he was hauled off two weeks later back to Indonesia or wherever and spent a decade there. Doesn't sound right.
- The newspaper announcement was supposedly made by his Grandparents in Hawaii. I wonder if a phone call was placed while he was born abroad saying "put that in the paper so that we can say he was an American born baby." If I was his parents, I would do it too. The "stupid americans" as they probably thought, wouldn't know the difference. And with a COLB, they could say he was a Natural Born and guarantee him citizenship privileges later in life. The thought of him being Pres. probably didn't even enter their minds, they were just looking out for their baby. If you were a foreign parent in the 50's/60's, having your baby be an American was the holy grail of opportunity for it.

That ^^^^ exactly

Something is starting to stink here.

 

[Bruno]

I can go and get a birth certificate real quickly. Why can't the governor do the same for Obama? Maybe they had bad recording practices during the time that he was born. Wouldn't surprise me because it is the government after all.

That would be one argument unless it wasn't already purported that someone has already seen it.

http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html

HONOLULU -- The state's Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate.

The state has received multiple requests for a copy of Obama's birth certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth certificate of a person to someone outside of the family.

There were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, where his father is from. The Constitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen of the U.S.

While many sites and news organizations have released copies provided by the Obama campaign, the rumors have persisted.

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the United States.

Multiple lawsuits were filed to try and force Obama to provide proof of citizenship. Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama's U.S. citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

 

[TNforPaul45]

That ^^^^ exactly

Something is starting to stink here.

Add to the fact both his Chicago Politics involvement AND all these supposed connections and frequent visits to a Gay Bath House in Chicago, and Obama is getting good at covering stuff up.

 

[jmdrake]

You would have thought that he wouldn't have said anything about 'ending the controversy' until he had actually found something to show people.

LOLZ! Yeah. The corollary to not asking questions you don't already have the answer to is to not make public proclamations that you can't actually back up. That said, I'm still not ruling out the possibility that this is a honeypot. Get the right all riled up over the BC issue and then pull the rug out right at the critical moment. Obama is trailing Mitt Romney* by 5 points and "Presto/change-o"...out pops the long form BC.

*The reason I say Mitt Romney is because if the GOP was smart enough to back Ron Paul he'd be 15 points ahead and not cheap "October surprise" would be able to rescue Obama's failed campaign.

 

[TNforPaul45]

That would be one argument unless it wasn't already purported that someone has already seen it.

http://www.kitv.com/r/17860890/detail.html

HONOLULU -- The state's Department of Health director on Friday released a statement verifying the legitimacy of Sen. Barack Obama birth certificate.

The state has received multiple requests for a copy of Obama's birth certificate. State law does not allow officials to release the birth certificate of a person to someone outside of the family.

There were rumors that Obama was born in Kenya, where his father is from. The Constitution requires that the president be a natural born citizen of the U.S.

While many sites and news organizations have released copies provided by the Obama campaign, the rumors have persisted.

"There have been numerous requests for Sen. Barack Hussein Obama’s official birth certificate. State law (Hawai‘i Revised Statutes §338-18) prohibits the release of a certified birth certificate to persons who do not have a tangible interest in the vital record," DOH Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino said.

Fukino said she and the registrar of vital statistics, Alvin Onaka, have personally verified that the health department holds Obama's original birth certificate.

"Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures," Fukino said.

Fukino said that no state official, including Gov. Linda Lingle, ever instructed that Obama's certificate be handled differently from any other.

Some Obama critics claim he was not born in the United States.

Multiple lawsuits were filed to try and force Obama to provide proof of citizenship. Earlier Friday, a southwest Ohio magistrate rejected a challenge to Obama's U.S. citizenship. Judges in Seattle and Philadelphia recently dismissed similar suits.

The State could come out and officially verify, with stamps and seals and parades, that the Sky is Polka Dotted Purple too, but that doesn't make it so.

 

[Bruno]

The State could come out and officially verify, with stamps and seals and parades, that the Sky is Polka Dotted Purple too, but that doesn't make it so.

I couldn't agree more.