Cause they can be trusted... right?
And the deals they made can be enforced... right?
WHY Massachusetts voted for McCain
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Cause they can be trusted... right?
And the deals they made can be enforced... right?
Spirit of '76
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The state chair demoted me to alternate delegate and appointed Dr. Diane Shafer (who allegedly is married to Henry Vinson, the man who was charged with operating a homosexual prostitute ring in which the call boys were given 'midnight tours' of the White House) as delegate in my place. It seems Dr. Shafer had donated the maximum amount to the party, and I hadn't.
We were assured that she was "100% for Ron Paul", but when we met her in Minnesota, she would hardly talk to us. She didn't know about any of the C4L events, and she simply disappeared after the 2nd day of the convention.
We couldn't track her down, and without exchanging credentials with her, I could not get access to the convention floor. When the time came for the vote, she was nowhere to be found, so only two of our three Ron Paul delegates were on the convention floor when the vote was taken.
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LOL, allegedly married? What isn't a crime these days?
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No one seems to be able to say if they are married or not. A reporter claims to have called her house, and a man answered and said that his name was "Henry Shafer". When she asked if he was Henry Vinson, he shouted obscenities at her and hung up.
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All traitors. All have a nice place in my signature.
Don't plan on running for office boys, because I will be there to show the voters what spineless hacks you really are.
Traitor list:
Chris Dryer - Sold his vote for Rage Against the Machine tickets
Carl Bunce - "pressured" into voting for McCain
Lisa Marie Johnson - voted McCain so she could "fight another day"
Matt Davidson - delegate that voted McCain by "giving up"
John Cunningham - voted McCain because "it was inevitable" - running for US Rep in 7th district in MA
Chris Blanc - because MA GOP wanted unanimous support
Victoria Pingaroon - didn't even go. gave spot to McCain delegate
Don't plan on running for office boys, because I will be there to show the voters what spineless hacks you really are.
Traitor list:
Chris Dryer - Sold his vote for Rage Against the Machine tickets
Carl Bunce - "pressured" into voting for McCain
Lisa Marie Johnson - voted McCain so she could "fight another day"
Matt Davidson - delegate that voted McCain by "giving up"
John Cunningham - voted McCain because "it was inevitable" - running for US Rep in 7th district in MA
Chris Blanc - because MA GOP wanted unanimous support
Victoria Pingaroon - didn't even go. gave spot to McCain delegate
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tonesforjonesbones
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I understand the angst of the Ron Paul supporters on this forum. I was VERY angry at the GOP for the way Dr. Paul was treated and I rebelled by leaving the GOP and going to the LP. I watched G. Edward Griffins speech about his Freedom Force movement since then. I encourage all of you to go and watch that.
The neoconservatives who hijacked the GOP did not do it by revolting within the party...they did it by being the biggest cheerleaders in the party, thereby gaining their respect and confidence, and then slowly shifted the party to their point of view. They became party leaders, and were appointed into high position. What we have to do is reverse that by using the same tactics. I agree with Ron Paul and I'm quite sure this is what his plan is. It is not going to happen over night, but unless we can gain respect within the party...we will get nowhere. I agree with the letters above. This is the way to take the party over...you have to play the game. TONES
The neoconservatives who hijacked the GOP did not do it by revolting within the party...they did it by being the biggest cheerleaders in the party, thereby gaining their respect and confidence, and then slowly shifted the party to their point of view. They became party leaders, and were appointed into high position. What we have to do is reverse that by using the same tactics. I agree with Ron Paul and I'm quite sure this is what his plan is. It is not going to happen over night, but unless we can gain respect within the party...we will get nowhere. I agree with the letters above. This is the way to take the party over...you have to play the game. TONES
Funny how Jeff Greenspan and Don Rasmussen who idolize Lew Moore lament "people like Bradley" for not working with the party while he demonizes Sue et al. who welcomed Dr. Paul. Is that another example of the Lew Moore style of furthering the movement?
Sue Lowden was extremely hostile to Ron Paul supporters.
This is Bradley's attempt to create division through lies and speculation about things he knows nothing about.
But what's new. That's what you've done the whole campaign.
You cannot provide ONE SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE for what you post. Not one. Nor have you. Ever.
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rp4vp
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I was there.
I was there. And it wasn't pretty - in fact, it was worse than it's been described in most places.
RedHats following us around. BlackHats demanding to search our bags and confiscating whatever they felt like. Everyone around us laughing and jeering at us. Ugly faces shoving themselves in our faces.
No, it wasn't pretty. But we knew it wouldn't be before we ever went in there. We ourselves described it in advance as "Christians in the Roman coliseum" and "Davey Crocket at the Alamo". We were going in to LOSE - but we were going to do it standing on PRINCIPLE in order to trailblaze for freedom-lovers who would come after us, and who could look to our example for inspiration and guidance as they fought the good fight.
I was only an alternate, but I did everything I could to make sure our delegates could stand by their principles to the fullest extent possible under the rules and state laws. For two days we tried to get Dr. Paul a speaking slot, under a "Fairness Campaign." Then we pushed for delegates to "Abstain from McCain" if they weren't able to change their pledged votes. And on the final night, we tried to get an actual roll call vote for VP instead of an acclamation, so that all of the RP supporters could at least cast their votes for him (there are NO bound votes for VP).
Even when I was given a delegate pass for 30 minutes to have the "experience" of being on the floor, I used my time to take petitions to small delegations like Guam and the Marianas Islands, to try to get that 5-delegation majority support and get RP's name in the nomination.
Like so many of the RP supporters that went to the RNC, I busted my butt to fulfill my duties and obligations to those who had busted their own butts to get me there, and who wanted to see SOMETHING registered for Dr. Paul there.
And then, we were betrayed.
I don't use that word lightly. I sent text messages and emails, talked to delegates individually, did everything I could to make sure our people didn't listen to the likes of Drew Ivers... and then heard about delegate after delegate voting for McCain, when they didn't have to.
I'm disgusted. Yes, we are all individuals, and as individuals have to make our own decisions. But then we have to face the consequences of those decisions. Those delegates who sold out can be commended for their courageous fight against the enemy in order to get there, just like Benedict Arnold. But like Benedict Arnold, they will be forever stained with their final actions, where they betrayed the trust of those who had sent them there to do a job.
Shame on them. I have burned so many political bridges in order to go up there and stand on principle - how dare they turn that into dung. And that's what they have done.
I've read all of the reasons, and all of the excuses. None of them rise to the level of acceptable. I was there. I know.
Now, let's get on with the Revolution, and take back our party. We will be doing so in my state. What about in your state?
I was there. And it wasn't pretty - in fact, it was worse than it's been described in most places.
RedHats following us around. BlackHats demanding to search our bags and confiscating whatever they felt like. Everyone around us laughing and jeering at us. Ugly faces shoving themselves in our faces.
No, it wasn't pretty. But we knew it wouldn't be before we ever went in there. We ourselves described it in advance as "Christians in the Roman coliseum" and "Davey Crocket at the Alamo". We were going in to LOSE - but we were going to do it standing on PRINCIPLE in order to trailblaze for freedom-lovers who would come after us, and who could look to our example for inspiration and guidance as they fought the good fight.
I was only an alternate, but I did everything I could to make sure our delegates could stand by their principles to the fullest extent possible under the rules and state laws. For two days we tried to get Dr. Paul a speaking slot, under a "Fairness Campaign." Then we pushed for delegates to "Abstain from McCain" if they weren't able to change their pledged votes. And on the final night, we tried to get an actual roll call vote for VP instead of an acclamation, so that all of the RP supporters could at least cast their votes for him (there are NO bound votes for VP).
Even when I was given a delegate pass for 30 minutes to have the "experience" of being on the floor, I used my time to take petitions to small delegations like Guam and the Marianas Islands, to try to get that 5-delegation majority support and get RP's name in the nomination.
Like so many of the RP supporters that went to the RNC, I busted my butt to fulfill my duties and obligations to those who had busted their own butts to get me there, and who wanted to see SOMETHING registered for Dr. Paul there.
And then, we were betrayed.
I don't use that word lightly. I sent text messages and emails, talked to delegates individually, did everything I could to make sure our people didn't listen to the likes of Drew Ivers... and then heard about delegate after delegate voting for McCain, when they didn't have to.
I'm disgusted. Yes, we are all individuals, and as individuals have to make our own decisions. But then we have to face the consequences of those decisions. Those delegates who sold out can be commended for their courageous fight against the enemy in order to get there, just like Benedict Arnold. But like Benedict Arnold, they will be forever stained with their final actions, where they betrayed the trust of those who had sent them there to do a job.
Shame on them. I have burned so many political bridges in order to go up there and stand on principle - how dare they turn that into dung. And that's what they have done.
I've read all of the reasons, and all of the excuses. None of them rise to the level of acceptable. I was there. I know.
Now, let's get on with the Revolution, and take back our party. We will be doing so in my state. What about in your state?
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