Why can't people see what we see?

dkim68

dkim68

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To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.
 
Stockholm syndrome, when the captives start feeling compassion for their captors.


Or even better, they are like the old prisoner in SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION. The old prisoner is in prison so long, he becomes institutionalized, and when he is released at 70 years old, he longs for his simple , structured life inside the big house.
 
HenryKnoxFineBooks said:
Or even better, they are like the old prisoner in SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION. The old prisoner is in prison so long, he becomes institutionalized, and when he is released at 70 years old, he longs for his simple , structured life inside the big house.
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Great observation! Love that movie too.
 
dkim68 said:
To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.
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They all have lobbyists helping them, getting them money and votes.
You got the MSM censoring the message and RP. A lot of people don't
do their research and vote because "I think it'll be cool to have a chick
in office! Go girl power!" (I honestly know someone who thought this).

There are those who really believe in the kinds of Huckabee (very
strict religious people), those who support McCain (warmongering
types), etc.

Then there are those who see RP coming in dead last and think they
would be throwing away their vote and money if they supported RP.

I even know supporters of RP, one guy who actually has donated money
to RP on at least two occasion, who loves RP and what he stands for,
yet he truly believes that RP will never become president or be elected.
He honestly believes that the "system" will not allow it... by any means
necessary.

... and a flurry of other reasons I can't come up with yet...
 
A lot of people don't have the interest in politics it takes to really study the issues so they tend to follow the consensus positions that they most agree with.

There is also something many libertarians have a really hard time understanding. Many people, probably around half the population, simply disagree with the fundamentals of libertarianism and their personalities are such that they will likely never agree no matter how much they understand the issues. Some people are just naturally dependant and really like the idea of a powerful government to help and protect them. I would guess that most of the people that are against the war so much it is their number one issue fall into this personality category. Even though they agree with Ron Paul on the War everything else is a deal breaker. Since the war is perceived as his biggest issue this presents an enormous problem.
 
It really frustrates me because in THIS particular election year it's so clear cut that if you vote for anyone OTHER THAN Ron Paul you're basically shooting yourself in the foot. I mean McCain saying we're going to be in Iraq for the next 100 years is a very significant statement which should have him dropping back into last place, yet he's the frontrunner.
 
Simply put; ignorance. I find that most people hold the MSM to be the guard dog and mouthpiece of the people. The MSM have already decided that Ron Paul will not win and refuse to provide fair coverage.
This promotes a dangerous pattern of "He wont win the nomination...so Ill vote for whomever is the lead (or gets more coverage)". Often they do not realize that the MSM make the decision for them.

This is exactly what happened in Brazil (see "Bigger than Citizen Kane"). "Globo" the media giant --on numerous occasions having 100% viewership-- choose their candidate and give them disproportionate publicity.

The sheeple are still the majority voice of this country. Uninformed they run to the polls simply because they believe it to be advancing democracy. Nothing could be further from the truth. :mad:
 
I think for many the ramifications of real freedom are terrifying.

Is this why the "War on Terror" so often seems like a war on freedom?

Hmmmm.....
 
ChickenHawk said:
A lot of people don't have the interest in politics it takes to really study the issues so they tend to follow the consensus positions that they most agree with.

There is also something many libertarians have a really hard time understanding. Many people, probably around half the population, simply disagree with the fundamentals of libertarianism and their personalities are such that they will likely never agree no matter how much they understand the issues. Some people are just naturally dependant and really like the idea of a powerful government to help and protect them. I would guess that most of the people that are against the war so much it is their number one issue fall into this personality category. Even though they agree with Ron Paul on the War everything else is a deal breaker. Since the war is perceived as his biggest issue this presents an enormous problem.
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Right, this is why I am a Republican, as well as 10 term Republican Congressman Ron Paul.
I want the borders closed
I am pro-life
I am not for un-restricted "free trade" ie NAFTA.

The above have a lot to do with why Libertarianism, as a movement, is becoming out-dated. Plus, many of them are too nice, and are always embarressed over something silly. . :D
"Desperate times call for desperate measures"
 
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I have this female friend who when I start to talk to her about the war profiteering going on in Iraq, or the Federal Reserve, or vote fraud she pleads with me to "Please stop. I don't want to hear anymore. I can't handle it."

I'm like, how can you feel confident about your voting choice WITHOUT knowing any of these things? Too many people have their hands over their ears going "la-la-la-la-la..."
 
dkim68 said:
I have this female friend who when I start to talk to her about the war profiteering going on in Iraq, or the Federal Reserve, or vote fraud she pleads with me to "Please stop. I don't want to hear anymore. I can't handle it."

I'm like, how can you feel confident about your voting choice WITHOUT knowing any of these things? Too many people have their hands over their ears going "la-la-la-la-la..."
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Just present her with her very own Pontius Pilate button. Should get her thinking. Then once she begins that, give her Bastiat's The Law. That should jog her from her sleep.
 
I think the fact that the war was a mistake is too painful for some people face. I'm the kind of person who will readily admit when I've made a mistake and try to correct it. As Dr. Paul has stated, it is our responsibility to correct the mistake, not to continue the mistake. Unfortunately, for people to agree with this point of view they would have to admit they were involved in supporting a mistake. Some people would rather die than admit that. Thus, the support of a pro-war candidate. If the MSM would do their jobs they'd be shining a big spotlight on what we're really doing over there. That it's not about promoting Democracy but something else entirely. Then the people would realize it's not worth the cost of thousands of American lives.
 
dkim68 said:
To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.
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It's simply MSM coverage.

They all have it, we don't.

Don't worry, we'll do MUCH better in several states than we did in FL. Don't go home yet, you'll miss out on the best part of this Ron Paul Party!
 
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