Why can't people see what we see?

One of the biggest things that bothers me is when people say "He's crazy." or "He can't win." Then when questioned what facts these answered are based on they reply "Well that's what the news says." Then when you question the news they have no basis for the comments and are simply flinging them out there to influence public opinion.
 
two words:

the media

the media tells them who to vote for
the media tells them who the front runners are
the media elects the president

btw today i was in my girlfriend's dorm, and she turned the tv on to watch the election results. my other friend also came in. flipping through the channels, she passed nbc and a few others, and stopped on fox, at which point i said "no! no! don't go to fox!!" my friend immediately was like "what do you mean? i watch fox all the time!" i couldn't believe it, he continued. "a recent harvard study recently showed that they really are the most fair and balanced news station." i also think he voted for romney...he is my friend and all and i respect his choices but...WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! just had to get that out.
 
Stockholm syndrome, when the captives start feeling compassion for their captors.


Or even better, they are like the old prisoner in SHAWSHANK REDEMPTION. The old prisoner is in prison so long, he becomes institutionalized, and when he is released at 70 years old, he longs for his simple , structured life inside the big house.

Great observation.

I also think the national (state controlled?) media is largely responsible for creating the perception of safety in the status quo.
 
I think the reason McCain is emerging as the GOP's guy is because whoever runs both major parties really, really wants Hillary in the White House. I think McCain is the one guy who will make her look absolutely acceptable to the American people. McCain will make the most conservative Republican voters stay home in November and wherever else Hillary can't pull the votes, they'll the electronic voting machines to ensure that she wins.

I don't think it's all the people doing this. A little help from the special interests goes a long way.
 
There are a couple things going on:

1. Ron Paul stands for peace, and by standing for peace he forces people to 'defend' war. While these people want to fight the war, they don't actually want to have to accept moral responsibility for it. They are for killing the bad guys, sure, but aren't really considering the 1.2 million civilians dead. Ron Paul forces them to.

2. The media. People are conditioned to laugh along with laugh tracks, to feel emotion based on the soundtrack, etc. Every sitcom has a kook.

3. How many people actually watch debates? Most people voting don't know the issues. They're voting for their favorite, and many don't even know why someone is their favorite. This is why Rudy is now out, despite being a favorite early on... it's media perception not reality.
 
I think the reason McCain is emerging as the GOP's guy is because whoever runs both major parties really, really wants Hillary in the White House. I think McCain is the one guy who will make her look absolutely acceptable to the American people. McCain will make the most conservative Republican voters stay home in November and wherever else Hillary can't pull the votes, they'll the electronic voting machines to ensure that she wins.

I don't think it's all the people doing this. A little help from the special interests goes a long way.

Yes this is it.
The gate keepers, Malkin, Rush, are out in full force bashing McCain. He is good at being the victim. In fact, he is probably America's most famous victim.

Some will fall for this charade.
Others will realize that it would take gale force winds to give McCain the Nom.
If they nominate Amnesty, La Raza International, then the Republican Party is DONE.
:D
They know this. Which way do they go? Loose money or keep the illusion?
:D
 
To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

do not underestimate the power of vote fraud!!!! especially in Florida!!!!!!!!
 
do not underestimate the power of vote fraud!!!! especially in Florida!!!!!!!!
I'm sure fraud has been committed in every state so far. I joked with someone that we'd probably have fair elections if officials were 7-year olds.
 
The combination of the word "crazy" and being the candidate that is laughed at is so powerfully negative. Those are two things that people personally dread the most. It's something rooted so deeply psychology-wise. The two working together are like a One-Two Punch to turn most uniformed voters off for good. How can we fight back against this type of thing? I think it needs to be revealed as a strategy first and foremost.

Isn't it apparent that Ron Paul is only candidate truly levelling with the American people? And if that's obvious then why doesn't everyone love this guy? What is wrong with these people that are skeptical about truth? That try to debunk facts? Do they prefer lies to truth? It boggles the mind.
 
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Just present her with her very own Pontius Pilate button. Should get her thinking. Then once she begins that, give her Bastiat's The Law. That should jog her from her sleep.

Perhaps you meant a 'Benedict Arnold' Medallion...

...and a one-way steerage-class ticket to Baghdad?
(if they think the surge is working maybe they ought to take up residence.)
 
the people see what the big media shows them, coupled with stupidity, self righteousness, election shenanigans, etc. etc. Our organization is just getting warmed up I think. The more organized we become the more likely we will start to bring home the gold in many states. All it will take is ONE GOLD, in one state, and all hell will break loose, and that my friends will be the end of the establishment as we know it.
 
Bastiat!!???!!!

Just present her with her very own Pontius Pilate button. Should get her thinking. Then once she begins that, give her Bastiat's The Law. That should jog her from her sleep.

Ummm...Bastiat's the Law is an evil read. I read it once, and then got the audio book. When I have a long drive I will listen to it a couple times. Then I will switch to the radio were they are talking about banning smoking in cars or banning firepits in backyards cause it could potentially bother someone with asthma.

Nothing else quite makes you not just realize how messed up our government is, but also incites you to action.

If you give her Bastiat, she will likely never disagree with Ron Paul again.
 
following explains why people are voting for McCain, and he is winning right now.... this is based on terror-management theory. Explains why RP isn't getting the votes he should be getting, and why Romney and Guilliani lost Florida. In other words, why they are voting for a warmonger.


"....human beings deal with the knowledge that they will someday die by maintaining a strong belief in their cultural worldview. That faith provides meaning to their lives and a sense that their individual lives matter, as well as the promise of symbolic – or literal –immortality if they uphold their society's values.

In short, 9/11 exposed our vulnerability to death in a way that made the deaths of that day absurd and violations our culturally “acceptable” modes of dying. This is why most Americans “could not believe” what took place and felt vulnerable to a “senseless” death. Recall that the political right and the left agreed more attacks were inevitable. They differed over motive attribution: insane religious rage or “Blowback.” Now, years later, we are beginning to realize – as only Tom Friedman could put it – that “9/11 made us stupid.” “Stupid” is not the correct description, of course, but from Friedman it is an insight."


from speech by Dan Bednarz, Nov '07

http://sandersresearch.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1325&Itemid=97
 
I think the reason McCain is emerging as the GOP's guy is because whoever runs both major parties really, really wants Hillary in the White House. I think McCain is the one guy who will make her look absolutely acceptable to the American people. McCain will make the most conservative Republican voters stay home in November and wherever else Hillary can't pull the votes, they'll the electronic voting machines to ensure that she wins.

I don't think it's all the people doing this. A little help from the special interests goes a long way.

I arrived at the same conclusion. :cool:
Pretty diabolical manipulation, top-down
 
To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.

"Why can't people see what we see?"

Satan?
 
To me the choice is so abundantly clear, so crystal clear that Ron Paul is the best choice among all the candidates. Why can't people see what we see? What is the strength of their devotion to candidates such as Romney, McCain or Huckabee based on? They are all so weak by comparison to Ron Paul yet they receive so much support. When Ron Paul owned McCain in the Florida debate with the economics question, people acted like Ron Paul stepped on a kitten rather than focus on the fact that McCain didn't know wtf Paul was talking about. These other candidates have so many flaws yet they are all willing to overlook them. Then Paul gets crucified for content in newsletters that he didn't even write. I don't get it. I just don't get it.
Well, the media has done a stellar job of distorting and silencing the message and the vast majority of the people only get their info from the boob tube. It didn't help that in the last debate Dr. Paul was given a fraction of the time of the other candidates. The debates are critical to us, but if they don't let Ron Paul speak they are pointless.
 
In a perfect world we could all be apolitical. I predict there will be no political parties in heaven. But in this world you face the choice: be political and fight those who pervert the political system for their gain and take your liberty in the process or be apolitical. Most people choose the later until just before they walk into the polling place. They vote out of 'civic duty' and the illusion that more votes makes a better election and they vote mostly on fear and prejudice not reason.
 
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