Who do you disrespect more neocons or people "who don't follow politics"

Neocons, for sure. The people who don't follow politics are just blissfully ignorant (the lucky bastards) and thus, easily misled. The neocons *think* they're clued in, but they're really not. Not only that, but in general, they aren't even OPEN to learning new things or having their views challenged.

The people have always been stupid from the point of view of a tyrant. But we are born as natural "doers." In fact, we are brought up with parents who have to tell us not to "do" things 9 out of 10 times.
Most think that we are going to need to do a major "do" to solve our problems. Life doesn't solve problems by creating huge "do's," but by creating little precious ones. We've gotten away from the realization that all we need to do is consecrate that which we already have as lightning in a bottle. Then we make ourselves happier by adding as little as possible by way of altering, tweaking, clarifying and ammending the Constitution.
 
The people have always been stupid from the point of view of a tyrant. But we are born as natural "doers." In fact, we are brought up with parents who have to tell us not to "do" things 9 out of 10 times.
Most think that we are going to need to do a major "do" to solve our problems. Life doesn't solve problems by creating huge "do's," but by creating little precious ones. We've gotten away from the realization that all we need to do is consecrate that which we already have as lightning in a bottle. Then we make ourselves happier by adding as little as possible by way of altering, tweaking, clarifying and ammending the Constitution.

Are you the omnipotent?
 
The only reason the neocons have power is because of the ignorant.. they feed off each other..
 
So, my question is this, who irritates you more the neocons who you've got to at least give them some credit for being involved in things that matter or the idiots who want nothing to do with it?

Neocons, and it's not even close.

The apathetic are harmless. Heck, I think more people should be apathetic, and here's why:

Whether you like it or not, the vast majority of people are incapable of seeing politics in a rational matter. They are unable to understand the long-term consequences of their mostly reactive political positions and are equally poor at evaluating our functioning political system as a whole.

Think of it as if you work for a larger-sized company. How many of the employees would you trust to be able to make a reasonable decision in evaluating several candidates for President or CEO of your company?

For most, I'd assume the correct answer would be very few. Now, realize that these are capable people employed by a successful organization and that I'd suppose most people know a lot more about the interworkings of their own company than government at a state-wide or national scale.

Most people don't like to get involved in things that that don't understand or really get how or why it applies to them. Politics is and was often one these things.

Unfortunately, politicians have brain-washed many of the fundamentally apathetic that their vote can essentially give them free support from the nanny state or that if they don't vote, the "wealthy 1%" will gain complete national control and setup a secret caste system securing their own wealth, destroying the middle class and preventing the poor of quality of life improvement, etc. This feeds on their reactive instinct and inability to see thing "from 100,000 feet," per say.

For those on this forum that are upset with the apathetic, you all need to consider the intrinsic values that cause you to be active politically; you've obviously made key conclusions in understanding how politics can affect your life and the lives of those you care about. Also, you have formulated your own conclusions as to what we need to do socially and economically to make life better for you, your loved ones and your fellow Americans. This puts you, by nature, well ahead of the curve in fundamental political understanding.

Not everyone is like you and nor should they be--that's the beauty of being Libertarian. If you're going to gauge someones value by level of political activism/understanding, I seriously question your fundamental perspective on humans in general and what makes someone "good" versus "bad"...which would also be questioning your understanding of the fundamentals roots of libertarianism as well.

I also much moreso respect the person that acknowledges that they have no understanding of politics and refuses to be a part of it as opposed to someone that makes an important decision concerning our national political system while being poorly informed, ill-reasoned or even flat out manipulated.
 
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Interesting take considering the forum. I'd be curious to see you elaborate.

Nice post. Agree with a lot of your points.

However, your pseudo - elitist views fail too many.

I hope I'm right otherwise the supposed worlds leaders will continue to despised by others.
 
Nice post. Agree with a lot of your points.

However, your pseudo - elitist views fail too many.

I hope I'm right otherwise the supposed worlds leaders will continue to despised by others.

It's unfortunate that many would consider pseudo-elitist. In my view it's general realist.

My grandfather was a fantastic engineer--one of the smartest people I've ever known. Nonetheless, he just honestly didn't care about politics. Whatever his personal reasons were, he did not care at all.

Does this make him a bad person? A stupid person? As one poster put it, a "useless" person? No, in my opinion.

I just think some intrinsically care about politics more and understand it better than other. Same as with most schools of thought--some are math-oriented, English-oriented, etc.

Another example is that while I enjoyed and excelled at Chemistry and Physics in school, I really disliked and didn't really get Biology.

Biology-based decisions effect my life every day. Even if I was granted a vote on who the powers that be would be in Biology field, I wouldn't exercise it. I don't trust myself to "get it" and I don't really care anyway. I think that stance is far more noble to the cause than if I were to use my power to make an ill-advised decision.
 
It's unfortunate that many would consider pseudo-elitist. In my view it's general realist.

My grandfather was a fantastic engineer--one of the smartest people I've ever known. Nonetheless, he just honestly didn't care about politics. Whatever his personal reasons were, he did not care at all.

Does this make him a bad person? A stupid person? As one poster put it, a "useless" person? No, in my opinion.

I just think some intrinsically care about politics more and understand it better than other. Same as with most schools of thought--some are math-oriented, English-oriented, etc.

Another example is that while I enjoyed and excelled at Chemistry and Physics in school, I really disliked and didn't really get Biology.

Biology-based decisions effect my life every day. Even if I was granted a vote on who the powers that be would be in Biology field, I wouldn't exercise it. I don't trust myself to "get it" and I don't really care anyway. I think that stance is far more noble to the cause than if I were to use my power to make an ill-advised decision.

I'm proud of my family heritage too.

If you are persuaded by the thoughts of self-absorbed elitists who ignore historical reality, then you are a chump.

History will not treat neo - cons with reverence.

Study Mussolini.
 
I'm proud of my family heritage too.

If you are persuaded by the thoughts of self-absorbed elitists who ignore historical reality, then you are a chump.

History will not treat neo - cons with reverence.

Study Mussolini.


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What are you talking about?

I'm quite aware of Mussolini.

Did you read what I wrote?

I think you're not quite communicating the conclusions you're drawing in your head...
 
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What are you talking about?

I'm quite aware of Mussolini.

Did you read what I wrote?

I think you're not quite communicating the conclusions you're drawing in your head...


I'm doing my best.

12 hours ago I had to shoot and bury by beloved 16 year old border collie.

I've half finished a bottle of Chivas .

Sorry mate.
 
lucius,

If I read that link I'll lose it.

Rudyard Kipling is appropriate 48 hours from now.

I sort of remember the text from earlier days.

I've bookmarked it.

Cheers. :)
 
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