Uphold the Constitution of the United States - Don't Know

[nikcers]

That is what is happening here.

The people responsible for this invasion have made it very clear, numerous times and in countless venues, that that the goal is to radically alter or abolish the long standing peoples, customs, traditions, institutions and economics of not just the United States but of the entire Western World.

Because they are using bodies instead of bombs and bullets does not make it any less of an invasion.

"Its just a bloodless non violent revolutionary regime change through a mostly peaceful invasion"

-CNN reporter in front of a city on fire meme

 

[Voluntarist]

"Its just a bloodless non violent revolutionary regime change through a mostly peaceful invasion"

-CNN reporter in front of a city on fire meme

A meme? Really? I can't find the CNN quote (Copilot's quite limited). Who said it, when and what was the context?

 

[Voluntarist]

The existence of a war is not dependent on legislation according to the Supreme Court for the president to use war powers.
It is not even necessary that both parties of the war are acknowledged as independent nations.
Technically many of the existing laws on the books are already considered a legislative sanction as well.

The Court ruled that a state of war can exist based on actual hostilities, and the President can act upon that even if Congress has not officially declared war. But that's not what is happening with illegal immigration.

 

[nikcers]

A meme? Really? I can't find the CNN quote (Copilot's quite limited). Who said it, when and what was the context?

 

[Voluntarist]

I'm not following your train of thought here. War powers? Immigration? Invasion? And still can't find the quote.

 

[nikcers]

The Court ruled that a state of war can exist based on actual hostilities, and the President can act upon that even if Congress has not officially declared war. But that's not what is happening with illegal immigration.

Hostility is a word based off the word Rome had for enemies "hostis". Which just meant non Roman enemy or enemy of the state.

They had another name for enemy which just meant the opposite of a friend.

Obviously the president is designating enemies of the state.

 

[nikcers]

I'm not following your train of thought here. War powers? Immigration? Invasion? And still can't find the quote.

Oh that was just my cheeky idea that CNN portrayed a fiery protest as mostly peaceful.

Its sort of a funny idea that CNN would just portray and invasion as migration.

 

[Swordsmyth]

INVASION

1: an occasion when an army or country uses force and/or armaments in a planned, coordinated and organized form to enter and take control of another country
,,, This is the US Constitutional sense of the word.

2: an occasion when a large number of people or things come, in a relatively organized fashion, to a place in a manner that is annoying and unwanted to most of the indigenous population
... This is the way the majority of New Hampshirites use the word when discussing the Free Keene movement. Pretty much the same for Woodstock 1969 (though shorter-lived than Free Keene).

3. an action or process that affects your own life in an unpleasant and unwanted way
... This is the manner in which you're using the word.

I may be wrong of the source of the following ( I suspect it was P J O'Rourke) and I don't recall the actual phrasing, but the gist of it was: "Before supporting government action on anything, think first how whatever you're giving the government will be used by political factions you don't support when they eventually come to power." SO, when redefining "invasion" (a threat from outside), recall that the Constitution also mentions "rebellion" (a threat from within) in that same clause - and the same latitude you're taking with "invasion" will also be applied, quite liberally, to "rebellion" by the next administration when they come to power.

This is the Constitutional definition of the word:

2: an occasion when a large number of people or things come, in a relatively organized fashion, to a place in a manner that is annoying and unwanted to most of the indigenous population

That's been the definition for thousands of years and it never changed, state organized invasions (and the current invasion has state backing) are but one type.

The Founders still dealt with native tribes and their predations, they in no way meant to limit the word to modern state actions.

 

[Swordsmyth]

The Court ruled that a state of war can exist based on actual hostilities, and the President can act upon that even if Congress has not officially declared war. But that's not what is happening with illegal immigration.

It is what is happening.
They invade and inflict violence and pillaging on our people.

 

[acptulsa]

This is the Constitutional definition of the word:

Oh? You're the Official Keeper of the Constitutional Glossary now?