Trump’s global tariffs found illegal by US appeals court

[TheCount]

So our trade with foreign nations falls under the president's authority.

Maybe read the constitution some time.

Start with article 1 before you move on to article 2.

 

[nikcers]

Maybe read the constitution some time.

Start with article 1 before you move on to article 2.

I understand the Constitution and so do the 4 dissenting judges in this ruling.

The Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

The president must ensure our country's national security because failure to act in such a case would be tantamount to acquiescence in anarchy and the dissolution of the union.

 

[TheCount]

I understand the Constitution and so do the 4 dissenting judges in this ruling.

The Constitution isn't a suicide pact.

The president must ensure our country's national security because failure to act in such a case would be tantamount to acquiescence in anarchy and the dissolution of the union.

If it doesn't matter, why did you start out with the (false) assertion that the president is somehow in charge of our trade?

 

[Snowball]

Legitimate Tariffs:

The Tariff Act of 1890, commonly called the McKinley Tariff, was an act of the United States Congress framed by then-Representative
William McKinley.

Illegitimate Tariffs: Trump by himself.

Impeach his ass.

 

[nikcers]

If it doesn't matter, why did you start out with the (false) assertion that the president is somehow in charge of our trade?

That wasn't my idea. That was Thomas Jefferson.

"The transaction of business with foreign nations is Executive altogether."

 

[oyarde]

Once su[reme court riled it was constitutional for pelosi and obama to fine people w/ no ins cat was out of bag. SCOTUS will allow any tax ever for ant reason and certainly will not be worried about tariffs

 

[TheCount]

That wasn't my idea. That was Thomas Jefferson.

"The transaction of business with foreign nations is Executive altogether."

Obviously the other framers felt differently because that's not what they wrote in the constitution.

 

[TheCount]

That wasn't my idea. That was Thomas Jefferson.

"The transaction of business with foreign nations is Executive altogether."

The topic of that quote was the appointment of diplomats. The "business" is foreign affairs, not trade.

Founders Online: Jefferson’s Opinion on the Powers of the Senate Respecting Dip …

Jefferson’s Opinion on the Powers of the Senate Respecting Diplomatic Appointments, 24 April 1790

founders.archives.gov

Maybe read your gpt output's references next time.

 

[nikcers]

Obviously the other framers felt differently because that's not what they wrote in the constitution.

Thomas Jefferson wrote the declaration of independence and was one of the founding fathers of the United States. I am pretty sure he understood the constitution and what it was about.

The words he used haven't changed in meaning.

"The transaction of business with foreign nations is Executive altogether."

Thomas Jefferson even wrote in a letter to Benjamin Austin that free-trade absolutism was a “stalking horse to cover their disloyal propensities to keep us in eternal vassalage to a foreign & unfriendly people.”

Founders Online: Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Austin, 9 January 1816

Thomas Jefferson to Benjamin Austin, 9 January 1816

founders.archives.gov

 

[nikcers]

The topic of that quote was the appointment of diplomats. The "business" is foreign affairs, not trade.

Founders Online: Jefferson’s Opinion on the Powers of the Senate Respecting Dip …

Jefferson’s Opinion on the Powers of the Senate Respecting Diplomatic Appointments, 24 April 1790

founders.archives.gov

Maybe read your gpt output's references next time.

Foreign affairs include trade with other nations.

These sort of restrictions on foreign trade fall well within the presidents power.

The executive branch has broad authority to "combat unfair trade practices for national security."

They manage foreign policy which includes trade policy granted by the executive branch’s Article 2 "foreign economic policy powers".


The supreme court has ruled that it was a function of the executive branch.

In Curtiss-Wright, Writing for a 7-1 majority Justice Sutherland posited that the National Government’s power in foreign relations is inherent. Consequently, the limits on Congress’s ability to delegate power relating to domestic areas, Justice Sutherland reasoned, did not apply in the area of foreign affairs.

 

[TheCount]

Foreign affairs include trade with other nations.

These sort of restrictions on foreign trade fall well within the presidents power.

The executive branch has broad authority to "combat unfair trade practices for national security."

They manage foreign policy which includes trade policy granted by the executive branch’s Article 2 "foreign economic policy powers".


The supreme court has ruled that it was a function of the executive branch.

In Curtiss-Wright, Writing for a 7-1 majority Justice Sutherland posited that the National Government’s power in foreign relations is inherent. Consequently, the limits on Congress’s ability to delegate power relating to domestic areas, Justice Sutherland reasoned, did not apply in the area of foreign affairs.

Foreign affairs and trade are not the same, no matter how long you make your replies.

The founders agreed, obviously, or else they would not have put trade in article 1 and affairs in article 2.

 

[acptulsa]

The Founders didn't want a king so they put guard rails in place so that the congress has the power to check the presidents power.

But the bot is programmed to want a king so it will advocate like clockwork to have every one of those guardrails removed.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Destroyed. Completely.

Obliterated. Instantly.

 

[Occam's Banana]

"Big question — will we live under emergency rule or Constitutional rule?" -- Rand Paul

According to Trump? Continuous, never-ending "emergency rule". From the OP article (bold emphasis added):

“Today a Highly Partisan Appeals Court incorrectly said that our Tariffs should be removed, but they know the United States of America will win in the end,” the president said. “If these Tariffs ever went away, it would be a total disaster for the Country.”
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Bessent predicts possible national housing emergency declaration

Since entering office, Trump has declared nine national emergencies, allowing him to expand his executive powers to address issues such as immigration and trade. He also declared a “crime” emergency in August to tackle violent crime in Washington.

 

[TheTexan]

Obliterated.

Instantly.

Holy shit it's a good thing he did those tariffs

He literally saved all of our lives, best president of all time

 

[Voluntarist]

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