Voter Fraud Conspiracies

Deborah K said:
HUH!??? Who are you calling a truther! That was an ignorant remark!
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No it wasn't. Unfortunately this forum is filled with freaking wackos who believe in extremely loony ideas like the election being fixed and 9/11 being an inside job. Its frankly annoying as hell and I'm sure it turns people away from this campaign.
 
Really?

Sam_Adams said:
It IS a big deal, but it's NOT one I think the campaign should be fighting right now. Every vote should count, but that's not the battle that will get us further support right now.
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So we should get more voters whose votes won't be counted?
 
LibertyRises said:
So we should get more voters whose votes won't be counted?
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You don't know that. The issue in NH has been corrected in that county. Has anyone been able to find proof elsewhere? C'mon. Ron Paul has other states to campaign in and it does NO GOOD to be bitter and waste time continuing to stir up shit in NH.
 
BrandonAGr said:
Just wanted to say I agree with you 100% Sam_Adams! Most people here seem to have lost touch with reality, it's refreshing to read a post from a reasonable person.
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Is it reasonable to completely ignore the validity of the vote? All we ask is to be convinced that the vote was fair, and we can be convinced of that by a recount.
 
Balden said:
Is it reasonable to completely ignore the validity of the vote? All we ask is to be convinced that the vote was fair, and we can be convinced of that by a recount.
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At this point, it is very reasonable, especially since the town at issue has corrected the count and nobody can seem to find any real evidence of so-called "fraud" elsewhere.

Recount will damage the campaign.
 
Sam_Adams said:
In that case, let me to retort:

I came here to check out the forums and I did not close my ears. I read 15 or so DIFFERENT THREADS about voter fraud before I posted this. I've NOT closed my ears. There are so many voter fraud threads in this forum that it's blocking out anything else of value.
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Sam _Adams, voter fraud is a very important issue. If in fact, it is taking place via these diebold machines, then all of our hard work is for naught!
 
Sam_Adams said:
You don't know that. The issue in NH has been corrected in that county. Has anyone been able to find proof elsewhere? C'mon. Ron Paul has other states to campaign in and it does NO GOOD to be bitter and waste time continuing to stir up shit in NH.
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You're asking us to solve a murder without investigating. We have the body, but you discourage from looking further into it. A recount will determine the accuracy of the results.

There are two options: HQ can pay for a recount, or grassroots can come up with the $67,000 necessary. The latter option would not disturb Ron Paul.
 
Deborah K said:
Sam _Adams, voter fraud is a very important issue. If in fact, it is taking place via these diebold machines, then all of our hard work is for naught!
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Deborah... I'm not saying that fraud ISN'T an important issue. I'm saying that there is no proof of voter fraud, the count has been corrected.

Your hard work is NOT for naught, as Ron Paul has been picking up steam EVERYWHERE. This would only slow the campaign down and cause it to lose focus with Super Tuesday coming up.

Right now I don't even think the "establishment" cares who is the republican candidate because even Faux News seems to like Hillary.
 
Sam_Adams said:
Recount will damage the campaign.
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How? Will the scary old media make fun of us? I've already explained why a recount does not have to interrupt Ron Paul or the campaign, if the grassroots takes care of it.

The proof lies in the recount. This discrepency in NH has compromised my trust in the final results. If one town is bad, that alone should justify a recount.
 
snaFU said:
No it wasn't. Unfortunately this forum is filled with freaking wackos who believe in extremely loony ideas like the election being fixed and 9/11 being an inside job. Its frankly annoying as hell and I'm sure it turns people away from this campaign.
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Yeah, looney alex jones loving wackos who were probably wacky enough to hear Ron Paul during one of his regular interviews.

:rolleyes:
 
Wonder if Ron Paul would investigate to see if any fraud has been perpetrated by the Fed? After all, there is no proof of it without an investigation right?

Why investigate anything? Without proof, there's just no need to investigate now is there?

Besides, who really needs transparency in things like elections and monetary policy?
 
Sam_Adams said:
For those of you claiming voter fraud, seeing images of Satan in the numbers, etc....

Why would you want to go bitter this early in the campaign?
Why give the press more ammunition to beat us over the head with?

A recount MIGHT move us into 4th place, but that's unlikely. So, do you want the media ABSOLUTELY REAMING Ron Paul for demanding a recount when we were tens of THOUSANDS of votes short of first?

Please, move on. Focus on the issues and spreading the word. Right now, all you're doing is making this campaign look like a bunch of bitter loonies are in the crowd.
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If they get away with cheating now they'll continue to do it. They're going to "ream" Ron Paul for demanding that votes be counted in America? I think not.
 
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