ecliptic
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Voter Fraud Conspiracies
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THE FILING DEADLINE FOR RECOUNT IS TOMORROW (FRIDAY) AT 5 pm est.
WE NEED TO GET ON THIS IN THE MORNING AND MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS FILING FOR THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE (KUCINICH?) FOR THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AS WELL.
Let's recount the entire vote in NH.
Remember Sutton!
WE NEED TO GET ON THIS IN THE MORNING AND MAKE SURE SOMEONE IS FILING FOR THE REPUBLICAN SIDE AND HOPEFULLY SOMEONE (KUCINICH?) FOR THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AS WELL.
Let's recount the entire vote in NH.
Remember Sutton!
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My assessment
I've read all 18 pages of this thread. Here's my assessment:
Don't demand a recount
If such evidence (sufficient in quantity, not just one or so isolated incidents) does NOT exist, then the campaign should issue a statement and put this issue to bed. They should quantify how they came to the conclusion that sufficient vote fraud did not occur.
Demand a recount
If SUFFICIENT evidence exists that vote fraud (or incompetence - it doesn't matter which) occurred in more than one or so isolated incidents, then a recount should be demanded. It should be demanded by the campaign, not the grass roots. The campaign has the money (we're all broke
) and can meet the 5:00 pm deadline tomorrow.
PR Issue
With Leno and many others crying foul about the past blatant attempts by the MSM to silence Paul, his demand for a recount would only ADD to the positive image of RP being the underdog that isn't getting a fair shake. That would go a long way to dispelling the "I like him but I won't vote for him because he can't win" BS. Many people were awakened by the blatant acts of bias against Paul. They are ripe for the message. To think that correct action should not be taken because "the MSM will call us crackpots" is to let them control us. I say BS to that!!!
The cost of inaction
If the campaign simply ignores this issue and lets the recount deadline pass, they will destroy much of their credibility with a huge portion of their supporters (as evidenced by this thread). When I called the campaign HQ today, "Leslie" told me that the campaign is quite aware of what is going on... she said they read these forums. That being said, I'd view inaction on their part as an intentional act.
This very same thing happened in the Buchanan campaign and the Perot campaign. Back then, we all came to the conclusion that their campaigns were shams. ...lightning rods placed to attract and safely diffuse the "Patriot" energy built up in this country. I pray that this is not the case with Ron Paul's campaign. Time will tell. By their fruits ye shall know them.
I've read all 18 pages of this thread. Here's my assessment:
Don't demand a recount
If such evidence (sufficient in quantity, not just one or so isolated incidents) does NOT exist, then the campaign should issue a statement and put this issue to bed. They should quantify how they came to the conclusion that sufficient vote fraud did not occur.
Demand a recount
If SUFFICIENT evidence exists that vote fraud (or incompetence - it doesn't matter which) occurred in more than one or so isolated incidents, then a recount should be demanded. It should be demanded by the campaign, not the grass roots. The campaign has the money (we're all broke
) and can meet the 5:00 pm deadline tomorrow.PR Issue
With Leno and many others crying foul about the past blatant attempts by the MSM to silence Paul, his demand for a recount would only ADD to the positive image of RP being the underdog that isn't getting a fair shake. That would go a long way to dispelling the "I like him but I won't vote for him because he can't win" BS. Many people were awakened by the blatant acts of bias against Paul. They are ripe for the message. To think that correct action should not be taken because "the MSM will call us crackpots" is to let them control us. I say BS to that!!!
The cost of inaction
If the campaign simply ignores this issue and lets the recount deadline pass, they will destroy much of their credibility with a huge portion of their supporters (as evidenced by this thread). When I called the campaign HQ today, "Leslie" told me that the campaign is quite aware of what is going on... she said they read these forums. That being said, I'd view inaction on their part as an intentional act.
This very same thing happened in the Buchanan campaign and the Perot campaign. Back then, we all came to the conclusion that their campaigns were shams. ...lightning rods placed to attract and safely diffuse the "Patriot" energy built up in this country. I pray that this is not the case with Ron Paul's campaign. Time will tell. By their fruits ye shall know them.
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FORGET EVIDENCE.
We can demand a recount just because we feel like it.
Let's recount every state in the union.
Or tell me how 31 votes for a candidate fall on the floor of a voting booth?
Listen to me, the worker bees here stayed up all night after the election and because of that Ron Paul has 31 votes that otherwise he would not have.
And how many other votes fell on the floor of the voting booths?
RECOUNT EVERY STATE
REMEMBER SUTTON!
We can demand a recount just because we feel like it.
Let's recount every state in the union.
Or tell me how 31 votes for a candidate fall on the floor of a voting booth?
Listen to me, the worker bees here stayed up all night after the election and because of that Ron Paul has 31 votes that otherwise he would not have.
And how many other votes fell on the floor of the voting booths?
RECOUNT EVERY STATE
REMEMBER SUTTON!
Being aware of the possible repercussions, I have to say that I would be thrilled to see Ron Paul show that he's not afraid of slander, media spin, and the opinion of an ignorant nation, and call the establishment out on this BS. You can't have democracy with rigged elections, we might as well name Bush emperor and get it over with.
However I'll leave it to Dr. Paul to decide if thats the best course of action. I know he is aware of the situation and doesn't take this lightly.
However I'll leave it to Dr. Paul to decide if thats the best course of action. I know he is aware of the situation and doesn't take this lightly.
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