Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want

[Brian4Liberty]

Trump: Transgender people can use whatever bathroom they want
By Nick Gass - 04/21/16

Transgender people should be able to use whatever bathroom they want, Donald Trump said Thursday.

"Oh, I had a feeling that question was going to come up, I will tell you. North Carolina did something that was very strong. And they're paying a big price. There's a lot of problems," the Republican presidential candidate said during a town hall event on NBC's "Today."

Referring to comments from an unnamed commentator who on Wednesday said North Carolina should "leave it the way it is right now," Trump said he agreed.

"Leave it the way it is. North Carolina, what they're going through with all the business that's leaving, all of the strife -- and this is on both sides. Leave it the way it is," he said, referring to companies that have canceled plans to move or expand businesses in the state as a result of the law, which bans transgender individuals from using a bathroom that does not match their gender at birth.

"There have been very few complaints the way it is. People go. They use the bathroom that they feel is appropriate," Trump said. "There has been so little trouble. And the problem with what happened in North Carolina is the strife and the economic -- I mean, the economic punishment that they're taking."

Matt Lauer then asked whether Trump has any transgender people working for his company.

"I really don't know. I probably do. I really don't know," Trump said, answering that he would allow, say, transgender celebrity Caitlyn Jenner to use whatever bathroom she wanted at Trump Tower.
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[CPUd]

It is going to be awesome to hear Sean Trumpity rationalize this...

 

[silverhandorder]

It is going to be awesome to hear Sean Trumpity rationalize this...

I would also like to see you rationalize how this is going to hurt Trump in Cali. Just curious.

 

[hells_unicorn]

From a purely political standpoint, this was extremely smart as Cruz and Kasich will now either be forced to speak on this issue or remain silent, and most of the remaining states (except Indiana) are not bastions of social conservatism. Trump wrapped this whole thing up when he took all of the southeast away from Cruz, essentially cutting out a necessary chunk of his evangelical base. Furthermore, the so-called establishment GOP, which is actually pretty hostile towards social conservatives, will not complain about this.

This empire has already determined the course of its own future, I don't really see much of a way out of this. But hey, I make a point of never using public bathrooms and have for a long time, and there is no way in hell that any future children that I may have are setting foot anywhere near a public school.

P.S. - Sean Hannity doesn't have to rationalize anything, Trump's supporters have already demonstrated an uncanny ability to do mental gymnastics so that they can justify anything that Trump does. This thing was over when Cruz began losing states in the southeast, and if North Carolina didn't want to be overrun with sodomites, they probably shouldn't have handed Trump a victory to begin with. Anyone with more than a 40 IQ could research Trump's past to see that he's no social conservative and never has been.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Pastor Cruz comments:

 

[Petar]

Good move, Attila the Trump.

The whole transgender normalization movement annoys the living hell out of me, but for someone who is within a hair's breadth of successfully executing a panty-raid over at GOPe HQ, this is not the cross that you want to sacrifice yourself on at this juncture.

Christian-voodoo witch-doctor Ted Cruz is already taking the bait, and I predict that public perception is REALLY going to turn against him now.

This may turn out to be precisely the bit of juice that Attila the Trump needed to put his campaign over the top ahead of the convention.

 

[Petar]

Crux is just sorely mistaken if he thinks that this is the kind of populism that is gonna help him at this point...

 

[dannno]

Pastor Cruz comments:

The thing is this really is a complicated topic - both sides try and make it simple and the fact is they are wrong, it isn't simple or straightforward. It's not just a matter of "boys are born with penises and girls are born with vajayjays"

I would ask Ted Cruz if he would be comfortable with a 200+ lb transgender man, who was born a woman and now has a beard, and maybe even has had surgery to install male genitalia, and looks like a burly dude to be in the same bathroom with his young daughter? Compared to a transgender female, who was born a man, but who is very feminine and passes for a female and is into having sex with men, I would choose the one born with a penis. Why? Because ones daughter is going to be much more traumatized by the IMAGE of a large burly male sharing her bathroom than the transgender woman who passes for a female.

But then there is the issue of people using the bathroom of the opposite sex who don't pass well. That's really the issue, does the person pass for the opposite sex? That is their entire goal, and it hurts their feelings if you tell them they don't pass well, but that's really the issue we are dealing with here. It is the ambiguous ones and the failed ones that are really the issue.. It means that women who kinda don't quite pass for men but may look like men on first impression will be in the lady's room. It will mean that men who don't quite pass for women but who are wearing dresses and stuff will be in the men's room.

Unisex bathrooms offer a good solution, but that creates more expense.

But if you did pass a ban, and a transgender person followed the law and went into the bathroom of the sex that they don't look like, will they be subject to genital inspections by police? Or will a drivers license be good enough? Will they get fake ID's, or will some states allow you to change your gender and will those IDs no longer be good in states with the ban?? Seems like an aweful lot of effort over a minor issue... that is one thing Trump is right about, this is really a minor issue at present and I don't see a big reason to rock the boat, pass bans, etc.. just let people handle it at the local level - I would not even advocate at the state level, unless they are talking about state run facilities only.

 

[CPUd]

I would also like to see you rationalize how this is going to hurt Trump in Cali. Just curious.

It won't matter either way in CA. His biggest issue there is finding enough delegate candidates for the slate there. Go find out what happens in CA if someone wins a CD and doesn't have a slate of delegates for that CD.

 

[Petar]

It won't matter either way in CA. His biggest issue there is finding enough delegate candidates for the slate there. Go find out what happens in CA if someone wins a CD and doesn't have a slate of delegates for that CD.

Well, there is also the fact that being overwhelmingly popular is something that can also influence delegates (much to the chagrin of party bosses at this point).

 

[Zippyjuan]

You know it is silly season when one of the bigger stories is who can use the bathroom.

 

[Petar]

You know it is silly season when one of the bigger stories is who can use the bathroom.

Sorry, but when is it not silly season?

The masses get whipped into a frenzy over stupid, shallow shit, and no one gives a crap about looking at things deeply.

This is how those in power have used partisan politics to divide and conquer people for roughly forever now.

Trump's genius lies in the fact that he is able to transcend all of that to a significant degree.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

But then there is the issue of people using the bathroom of the opposite sex who don't pass well. That's really the issue, does the person pass for the opposite sex? That is their entire goal, and it hurts their feelings if you tell them they don't pass well, but that's really the issue we are dealing with here. It is the ambiguous ones and the failed ones that are really the issue.. It means that women who kinda don't quite pass for men but may look like men on first impression will be in the lady's room. It will mean that men who don't quite pass for women but who are wearing dresses and stuff will be in the men's room.

That's the real problem. How can Cruz and friends get all outraged if someone "passes"? Gonna need some genetic scanners at every bathroom. Homeland Security can operate them. It's the only way to protect us. We must give up some liberty for the perception of safety, don't ya know?

 

[CPUd]

Well, there is also the fact that being overwhelmingly popular is something that can also influence delegates (much to the chagrin of party bosses at this point).

Then 2/3 remaining candidates seem to have a problem:

But I'm referring to actually getting 3 people's names for each CD before the deadline. The Cruz campaign started this in January and are close to having the process completed, Trump's campaign started a week or so ago.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Sorry, but when is it not silly season?

The masses get whipped into a frenzy over stupid, shallow $#@!, and no one gives a crap about looking at things deeply.

This is how those in power have used partisan politics to divide and conquer people for roughly forever now.

Trump's genius lies in the fact that he is able to transcend all of that to a significant degree.

Transcend the silliness? He takes full advantage of it and exploits it to his own advantage. "The Apprentice" is full of that and it is also why he is so popular right now.

 

[younglibertarian]

Pastor Cruz comments:

What an enthusiastic crowd.

 

[Petar]

Transcend the silliness? He takes full advantage of it and exploits it to his own advantage. "The Apprentice" is full of that and it is also why he is so popular right now.

That's precisely what I mean.

He grabs the silliness by the horns, and ends up using it against itself.

The GOPe is like a bull that is risking goring itself to death right now - all because it has decided to tangle with a certain, yellow-haired rodeo-clown.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

You know it is silly season when one of the bigger stories is who can use the bathroom.

It is one of the biggest issues on the progressive left.

 

[CaptUSA]

Personally, I agree with his statement here on this non-issue, but it's a little disingenuous since Trump doesn't use public bathrooms. Those are for the plebes.

 

[MarcusI]

Yes, Trump is right on that issue.

Now move on, that was already enough talk about a non-issue.