Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim

[LibertyEagle]

Which only begs the question; why should the laws restrict immigration?



Maybe not to you, but the teeming masses of Trumpites out there wouldn't care about this issue if it were Germans or Scots entering the country illegally.

Or not as much, anyway; you'd still have the "muh jerbs" fallacies.

Now, I know you have seen this before, because I have posted it about 30 times.

In one of the most neglected sections of his Notes on Virginia, Thomas Jefferson posed the question, “Are there no inconveniences to be thrown into the scale against the advantage expected by a multiplication of numbers by the importation of foreigners?”

What was likely to happen, according to Jefferson, was that immigrants would come to America from countries that would have given them no experience living in a free society. They would bring with them the ideas and principles of the governments they left behind –ideas and principles that were often at odds with American liberty.

“Suppose 20 millions of republican Americans thrown all of a sudden into France, what would be the condition of that kingdom?” Jefferson asked. “If it would be more turbulent, less happy, less strong, we may believe that the addition of half a million of foreigners to our present numbers would produce a similar effect here.”

More here...

http://humanevents.com/2007/07/20/founding-fathers-were-immigration-skeptics/

On the other hand, I understand why those who want the nation to completely fall would want unlimited immigration. Because they are either globalists who want to roll the country into a world government, or they are useful idiots to the globalists who naively believe that if the nation would hurry up and fall, they would be allowed to rebuild it from the ashes.

 

[devil21]

Where did you pull that BS from?

Umm....Catholic mass? Ever witnessed a Latin Catholic mass? They worship Mary more than Jesus. Perhaps it was extreme to state all Catholics worship Mary more than Jesus but it does happen in many parts of the world.

This thread demonstrates why religion is such an effective control tool. Is Obama a muslim? A Christian? An Atheist? Hmm....or is that a false choice?

No one notices that the Pope pushes NWO agenda points these days? No one notices that the fiat money system everyone complains of originates at the Vatican and is administered in the City of London on behalf of the Vatican? Yet people continue to go to mass and hand their money back over to the same people that control them and push them into global socialism. smh

Or Shinto, Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Bahá'í, Judaism, Tenrikyo, Rastafarianism, Pastafarianism, or goes to the Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption Church.

My point is why does it matter?

It matters if you want to know who controls your reality, why and how. If that doesn't matter to you then do continue to complain about the situation we live in, directing your efforts toward the wrong targets.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

On the other hand, I understand why those who want the nation to completely fall would want unlimited immigration. Because they are either globalists who want to roll the country into a world government, or they are useful idiots to the globalists who naively believe that if the nation would hurry up and fall, they would be allowed to rebuild it from the ashes.

Or they understand economics and want the country to prosper.

 

[devil21]

Btw, Trump was asked point blank during a rally yesterday whether he was going to visit with the Pope when he is in the US. Trump ducked the question.

 

[RJB]

ETA In the bolded part you say they do worship Mary, and in the next sentence you try to wiggle out of what you just said.

Umm....Catholic mass? Ever witnessed a Latin Catholic mass? They worship Mary more than Jesus. Perhaps it was extreme to state all Catholics worship Mary more than Jesus but it does happen in many parts of the world.

Umm... You are full of it. I was a Roman Catholic and I never worshipped Mary as God. I was never taught that. NEVER. I think there are some in the church that have gone off the deep end into mariology, but the Catholic Catechism doesn't label Mary as God. You are simply wrong in that aspect.

And your link above is an attack on probably 99% of Christianity, not just Roman Catholicism. I'd be interested to see who you would label as true Christians?

This thread demonstrates why religion is such an effective control tool. Is Obama a muslim? A Christian? An Atheist? Hmm....or is that a false choice?

How does this thread demonstrate this? I don't know his heart nor do I care. I think Obama is a tool plain and simple.

No one notices that the Pope pushes NWO agenda points these days? No one notices that the fiat money system everyone complains of originates at the Vatican and is administered in the City of London on behalf of the Vatican? Yet people continue to go to mass and hand their money back over to the same people that control them and push them into global socialism. smh

The Pope has made some comments that other and myself on the forum don't like, but that is not Roman Catholic doctrine. That is Francis speaking for himself.

As for the fiat trail, I haven't seen compelling evidence of them behind it. If I was behind the banking system, I would have gotten out of the reliance on tithing years ago.

I believe they are wrong on a few points, but no where near as off as your post. I'm not even a Roman Catholic anymore, but I had to point out that you are stating some falsehoods. If a Roman Catholic wants to pick it up from here that's fine, but I've said my piece.

 

[RPES1]

It matters if you want to know who controls your reality, why and how. If that doesn't matter to you then do continue to complain about the situation we live in, directing your efforts toward the wrong targets.

Controls my reality? What kind of tinfoil hat shit is this? So by your logic we should ban every religion in America except those you agree with?

 

[devil21]

ETA In the bolded part you say they do worship Mary, and in the next sentence you try to wiggle out of what you just said.

Umm... You are full of it. I was a Roman Catholic and I never worshipped Mary as God. I was never taught that. NEVER. I think there are some in the church that have gone off the deep end into mariology, but the Catholic Catechism doesn't label Mary as God. You are simply wrong in that aspect.

So no, you haven't witnessed Latin Catholic mass. I did admit it was extreme to label all Catholics accordingly but you DO worship Mary, don't you? Unlike evangelicals, you pray to Mary even, right? I have yet to see a service in any church other than Catholic that so much as mentions Mary, much less has statues devoted to her, halos and all. That's purely a Catholic thing.

And your link above is an attack on probably 99% of Christianity, not just Roman Catholicism. I'd be interested to see who you would label as true Christians?

I don't think I'd label anyone today a true Christian. Most are cafeteria Christians.

How does this thread demonstrate this? I don't know his heart nor do I care. I think Obama is a tool plain and simple.

You're discussing a multiple choice question but the answer to the question isn't one of the choices. He is a tool, but for whom?

The Pope has made some comments that other and myself on the forum don't like, but that is not Roman Catholic doctrine. That is Francis speaking for himself.

Isn't he "God on Earth"? Are you saying that when he says something a Catholic agrees with he is "God on Earth" but when it's something a Catholic doesn't agree with he's just "Francis"?

As for the fiat trail, I haven't seen compelling evidence of them behind it. If I was behind the banking system, I would have gotten out of the reliance on tithing years ago.

I believe they are wrong on a few points, but no where near as off as your post. I'm not even a Roman Catholic anymore, but I had to point out that you are stating some falsehoods. If a Roman Catholic wants to pick it up from here that's fine, but I've said my piece.

How's your 401k looking these days? You do know that it's the Vatican stealing your money, right? No? Oh sorry.

Yeah, I'll be sure to let one of the deceived people school me on how wrong I am about their deception. Oh wait, looks like RPES has stepped up....

 

[RJB]

So no, you haven't witnessed Latin Catholic mass. I did admit it was extreme to label all Catholics accordingly but you DO worship Mary, don't you? Unlike evangelicals, you pray to Mary even, right? I have yet to see a service in any church other than Catholic that so much as mentions Mary, much less has statues devoted to her, halos and all. That's purely a Catholic thing.

Sigh. With all due respect, you don't have a clue what you are talking about. Check out one of the 100 or so threads where this has been discussed to death in the religion section on RPFs.

I don't think I'd label anyone today a true Christian. Most are cafeteria Christians.

I'm curious who do you consider to be true Christians. Not just belief wise, but where are they? You don't even believe in Jesus based on your article above.

You're discussing a multiple choice question but the answer to the question isn't one of the choices. He is a tool, but for whom?

For the Devil21?

Isn't he "God on Earth"? Are you saying that when he says something a Catholic agrees with he is "God on Earth" but when it's something a Catholic doesn't agree with he's just "Francis"?

Roman Catholics don't believe he is God on Earth. They don't believe he is God period. Where do you get your info?

How's your 401k looking these days? You do know that it's the Vatican stealing your money, right? No? Oh sorry.

I don't have a 401K. I'm self employed. I'll work until I die and I'm perfectly happy with that.

Yeah, I'll be sure to let one of the deceived people school me on how wrong I am about their deception. Oh wait, looks like RPES has stepped up....

When you erroneously believe that Catholics see the pope and Mary as Gods, you are deceived. When you call all Trinitarians poly-theist (at least your article does,) you are very deceived.

As I said, I'm not Roman Catholic anymore, but you are flat out wrong on many assertions that you make.

 

[DisneyFan]

That tweet from Hillary is such BS. It is not Trump's responsibility to correct this man.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Or they understand economics and want the country to prosper.

Well, I give you props for admitting that you're a globalist tool.

 

[RonPaulGeorge&Ringo]

Umm....Catholic mass? Ever witnessed a Latin Catholic mass? They worship Mary more than Jesus. Perhaps it was extreme to state all Catholics worship Mary more than Jesus but it does happen in many parts of the world.

This thread demonstrates why religion is such an effective control tool. Is Obama a muslim? A Christian? An Atheist?

You're a dipshit.

Unless you're a devotee of the Gospel of Thomas and the Book of Enoch, whatever your Christian theology is, it's just a watered-down spinoff of Roman Christianity.

 

[nikcers]

That tweet from Hillary is such BS. It is not Trump's responsibility to correct this man.

Acknowledging bigotry without disavowing it has the tendency to make you unelectable. You may disagree on the premise but that doesn't make you right.

 

[Brett85]

This will only help Trump among Republicans.

 

[nikcers]

This will only help Trump among Republicans.

The same ones that arrested that kid for bringing in a home made clock to school, I don't think it makes him any more electable in a general election, the more he does stuff like this the more it seems like he is trying to be a king maker for the Clintons. Don't give me that BS about Clinton not being the nominee either, Biden is even jumping in the race to split the not Clinton vote.

 

[devil21]

You're a dipshit.

Unless you're a devotee of the Gospel of Thomas and the Book of Enoch, whatever your Christian theology is, it's just a watered-down spinoff of Roman Christianity.

You sure do bust a vein every time I mention Jesuits and Catholics in threads. In fact, you're the only poster that ever neg reps my posts and it's always about my comments about Jesuits.

I maintain no Christian theology as I'm a generally unbiased observer interested more in the truth than following dogma.

For the Devil21?

I'm flattered but no. You're getting warmer though!

 

[Crashland]

At the this point in history, asking a politician if they are agnostic or atheist is like asking a pro football player if they are gay.

 

[puppetmaster]

Now, I know you have seen this before, because I have posted it about 30 times.



More here...

http://humanevents.com/2007/07/20/founding-fathers-were-immigration-skeptics/

On the other hand, I understand why those who want the nation to completely fall would want unlimited immigration. Because they are either globalists who want to roll the country into a world government, or they are useful idiots to the globalists who naively believe that if the nation would hurry up and fall, they would be allowed to rebuild it from the ashes.

Maybe too difficult for them to understand. They dodge it.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Catholics are not Christians?

No. Neither are Mormons.

 

[puppetmaster]

No. Neither are Mormons.

at least that what people who say they are Christian say.

 

[alucard13mm]

Bush and Clinton wants open borders... that alone should scare you into not wanting open borders.