Anti-Trump cabal seeks to trump Trump before Trump trumps them

[Occam's Banana]

Well at this point who can even predict what Trump might do if he makes it back to the white house? I know I have no idea what he might try.

And this makes him different from Biden, et al. ... how, exactly?

 

[Swordsmyth]

Proving that he needs to do most of what they are afraid of.

 

[acptulsa]

Proving that he needs to do most of what they are afraid of.

No, I don't like the flavor of totalitarianism you're selling any better than theirs.

 

[69360]

And this makes him different from Biden, et al. ... how, exactly?

Nobody said it was. Perhaps the only difference is that Trump would be overt about it, he is arrogant enough to publicly announce that he is using the US military as his private enforcers. With other presidents it was just implied. When it is overt like that it erodes the founding principals of the country I think.

 

[nobody's_hero]

Stop eating chocolate and watching MSNBC right before bed. You're giving yourself nightmares.

 

[Occam's Banana]

Nobody said it was. Perhaps the only difference is that Trump would be overt about it, he is arrogant enough to publicly announce that he is using the US military as his private enforcers. With other presidents it was just implied. When it is overt like that it erodes the founding principals of the country I think.

So overtly abusing the military for political reasons "erodes the founding principles of the country" - but covertly doing so does not?

How does that make any sense?

And what is covert - or even "just implied" - about things like Bush setting up CIA torture chambers, or Obama having American citizens assassinated, or Biden initiating the bombing of other countries without Congressional (i.e., Constitutional) authorization, or so on (and on, and on ...)? Why should the rhetoric of Trump's invidious "publi[c] announce[ments]" (made as a candidate in the course of an election campaign) be considered any more corrosive of "the founding principles of the country" than the non-rhetorical actions of Biden, Obama, Bush, et al. (and, yes, even of Trump himself when he was POTUS)? IOW: How is Trump anything but just the "same old same-old"? Why should he be regarded as especially perfidious in this regard? Merely because he's gauche enough to say the quiet (or "just implied") part out loud?

The self-serving administrative-state hegemons (and their lackeys) in the OP article don't give a shit about "the founding principles of the country". They know or suspect how inadequate and incomplete their grasp on power ultimately is (as of yet) - enough so that a bombastic harbinger-clown like Trump is sufficient to send them into paroxysms of panic over what they (projectively) imagine he "might" do.

 

[69360]

So overtly abusing the military for political reasons "erodes the founding principles of the country" - but covertly doing so does not?

How does that make any sense?

And what is covert - or even "just implied" - about things like Bush setting up CIA torture chambers, or Obama having American citizens assassinated, or Biden initiating the bombing of other countries without Congressional (i.e., Constitutional) authorization, or so on (and on, and on ...)? Why should the rhetoric of Trump's invidious "publi[c] announce[ments]" (made as a candidate in the course of an election campaign) be considered any more corrosive of "the founding principles of the country" than the non-rhetorical actions of Biden, Obama, Bush, et al. (and, yes, even of Trump himself when he was POTUS)? IOW: How is Trump anything but just the "same old same-old"? Why should he be regarded as especially perfidious in this regard? Merely because he's gauche enough to say the quiet (or "just implied") part out loud?

The self-serving administrative-state hegemons (and their lackeys) in the OP article don't give a $#@! about "the founding principles of the country". They know or suspect how inadequate and incomplete their grasp on power ultimately is (as of yet) - enough so that a bombastic harbinger-clown like Trump is sufficient to send them into paroxysms of panic over what they (projectively) imagine he "might" do.

I just think that when you get somebody like Trump announcing publicy that he can do whatever he wants with impunity, it could throw the country into a constitutional crisis. It wouldn't be allowed to stand.

 

[ClaytonB]

Proving that he needs to do most of what they are afraid of.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Trump is what you get when you try to infiltrate the US government from within, using a fifth-column under the guise of "continuity-of-government", giving rise to Clown World as collateral damage. They invaded the most powerful country on earth, which was founded on the principles of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and now they're crying the tears of despair because they are about to get hit with the sledge-hammer. Boo-hoo...

 

[Occam's Banana]

I just think that when you get somebody like Trump announcing publicy that he can do whatever he wants with impunity, it could throw the country into a constitutional crisis. It wouldn't be allowed to stand.

Despite all the squawking of the clowns in the OP article, Trump is nothing special in this regard.

They're all "Tricky Dick" now:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMt8qCl5fPk

 

[nobody's_hero]

I just think that when you get somebody like Trump announcing publicy that he can do whatever he wants with impunity, it could throw the country into a constitutional crisis. It wouldn't be allowed to stand.

It could. It wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing, either, but the hypocrisy would be deafening. It would be quite the 'cast the first stone' situation.

However, such a thing is only likely to happen in the minds of Rachel Maddow's script-writers. The most you should probably expect to see in a Trump administration version 2.0 is a whole lot of trolling.

 

[ClaytonB]

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Trump's only crime here is saying the quiet part out loud. POTUS commits the crimes that the MIC can't directly get away with and, in return, the MIC mobilizes an ocean of propaganda resources to cover those crimes up. Profit -> ∞

 

[Aratus]

We just bombed Yemen a third time, and US bases in Syria came under rocket fire again.
Hardly any Americans even know or care.

agreed. they are not following current events
nor do they understand the lyrics all good marines
sing when they sing a certain song that ties together
jefferson going after pirates and polk invading
mexico. the public at large gets damn tired.



they often work like dogs on a dead end job they secretly despise.

 

[Occam's Banana]

CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #211:

They’ll Do Anything to Stop Trump in 2024
https://rumble.com/v47dmh9-theyll-do-anything-to-stop-trump-in-2024.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 16 January 2024}

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[Occam's Banana]

This must be that "democracy" they keep screeching about.

Open treason.

https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/1746555322150400369

https://twitter.com/LPMisesCaucus/status/1746805447061807589

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/TrumpDailyPosts/status/1747952069397577821

https://twitter.com/KenGardner11/status/1748156117882917241

Well, why shouldn't he think it?

After all, previous presidents have effectively enjoyed "total immunity" for their crimes.

Trump is nothing special in this regard. (At worst, he's just more crudely open and blunt about it.)

"What can possibly go wrong?" Too late - it's already gone wrong (and you did not object, because it suited your desire).

Trump is just another iteration of what all you complacent assholes previously tolerated (or even encouraged).

IOW: Reality is a thing - and causes will have their effects.

IOOW: What is reaped is what was sown - and as rotten as it may be, one way or another, the fruit of that labor will be eaten.

IOOOW: Karma's a bitch, ain't it?

https://twitter.com/JonahDispatch/status/1748037134190313827
& https://twitter.com/pangyre/status/1748128562245218762

 

[Occam's Banana]

https://twitter.com/CassandraRules/status/1748883764275507490

 

[Occam's Banana]

Pentagon And Neocons Seek To 'Trump-Proof' Ukraine Military Aid

Pentagon and NATO officials are reportedly considering moving under NATO control a multi-national group that coordinates military aid to Ukraine. Control is currently in US hands, but the deep state fears a re-elected President Trump may attempt to stop their endless war machine. Also today: Biden's crocodile tears over Israel's slaughter of aid workers.

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[Occam's Banana]

The self-serving administrative-state hegemons (and their lackeys) in the OP article don't give a shit about "the founding principles of the country". They know or suspect how inadequate and incomplete their grasp on power ultimately is (as of yet) - enough so that a bombastic harbinger-clown like Trump is sufficient to send them into paroxysms of panic over what they (projectively) imagine he "might" do.

CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #281:

AOC and Rachel Maddow's Delusional Fears of Being Imprisoned By Trump Illustrate Media Derangement
https://rumble.com/v517aje-aoc-and-...ears-of-being-imprisoned-by-trump-illust.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 12 June 2024}

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[Occam's Banana]

CLIP from SYSTEM UPDATE #281:

AOC and Rachel Maddow's Delusional Fears of Being Imprisoned By Trump Illustrate Media Derangement
https://rumble.com/v517aje-aoc-and-...ears-of-being-imprisoned-by-trump-illust.html
{Glenn Greenwald | 12 June 2024}

[... video ...]
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https://x.com/Outkick/status/1803147164945690687
[article: https://www.outkick.com/culture/joy...-trump-could-cancel-the-view-he-wins-election]

 

[Occam's Banana]

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Trump has raised fresh questions about his intentions if he regains power by putting forward a legal theory that a president would be free to do nearly anything with impunity — including assassinate political rivals — so long as Congress can’t muster the votes to impeach him and throw him out of office.

Torturing prisoners (Bush) ... drone-assassinating American citizens (Obama) ... bombing countries without Congressional approval (Biden) ...

Where could this "legal theory that a president [is] free to do nearly anything with impunity" possibly have come from?

It's such a baffling mystery!

THREAD: SCOTUS: Presidents have Immunity for Official Acts

https://x.com/AnarchoXP/status/1807940227962474926