Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim

[cajuncocoa]

 

[navy-vet]

Why so many Americans don't trust Obama when he claims that he is a Christian?
Please brief answers only.

September 17, 2015, 10:13 PM Trump declines to correct man who says Obama is Muslim

Last Updated Sep 17, 2015 10:36 PM EDT

Updated with response from Donald Trump's campaign.

ROCHERSTER, N.H. - Republican presidential front-runner Donald Trump declined Thursday to correct a questioner at a 3,000 person rally who incorrectly stated that President Barack Obama is Muslim and said he'd be "looking at" claims of terrorist training camps on American soil.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-declines-to-correct-man-who-says-obama-is-muslim/



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My definition of one who condones the slaughter of a baby during a late term or partial birth abortion is the opposite of what I call Christian.

 

[TheTexan]

Barack Hussein Obama isn't a muslim, sure... Haha

 

[erowe1]

20 quotes from Obama regarding Islam:

#1 “The future must not belong to those who slander the Prophet of Islam”

#2 “The sweetest sound I know is the Muslim call to prayer”

#3 “We will convey our deep appreciation for the Islamic faith, which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world — including in my own country.”

#4 “As a student of history, I also know civilization’s debt to Islam.”

#5 “Islam has a proud tradition of tolerance.”

#6 “Islam has always been part of America”

#7 “we will encourage more Americans to study in Muslim communities”

#8 “These rituals remind us of the principles that we hold in common, and Islam’s role in advancing justice, progress, tolerance, and the dignity of all human beings.”

#9 “America and Islam are not exclusive and need not be in competition. Instead, they overlap, and share common principles of justice and progress, tolerance and the dignity of all human beings.”

#10 “I made clear that America is not – and never will be – at war with Islam.”

#11 “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism – it is an important part of promoting peace.”

#12 “So I have known Islam on three continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed”

#13 “In ancient times and in our times, Muslim communities have been at the forefront of innovation and education.”

#14 “Throughout history, Islam has demonstrated through words and deeds the possibilities of religious tolerance and racial equality.”

#15 “Ramadan is a celebration of a faith known for great diversity and racial equality”

#16 “The Holy Koran tells us, ‘O mankind! We have created you male and a female; and we have made you into nations and tribes so that you may know one another.’”

#17 “I look forward to hosting an Iftar dinner celebrating Ramadan here at the White House later this week, and wish you a blessed month.”

#18 “We’ve seen those results in generations of Muslim immigrants – farmers and factory workers, helping to lay the railroads and build our cities, the Muslim innovators who helped build some of our highest skyscrapers and who helped unlock the secrets of our universe.”

#19 “That experience guides my conviction that partnership between America and Islam must be based on what Islam is, not what it isn’t. And I consider it part of my responsibility as president of the United States to fight against negative stereotypes of Islam wherever they appear.”

#20 “I also know that Islam has always been a part of America’s story.”

20 quotes from Obama regarding Christianity:

#1 “Whatever we once were, we are no longer a Christian nation”

#2 “We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation.”

#3 “Which passages of scripture should guide our public policy? Should we go with Leviticus, which suggests slavery is OK and that eating shellfish is an abomination? Or we could go with Deuteronomy, which suggests stoning your child if he strays from the faith?”

#4 “Even those who claim the Bible’s inerrancy make distinctions between Scriptural edicts, sensing that some passages – the Ten Commandments, say, or a belief in Christ’s divinity – are central to Christian faith, while others are more culturally specific and may be modified to accommodate modern life.”

#5 “The American people intuitively understand this, which is why the majority of Catholics practice birth control and some of those opposed to gay marriage nevertheless are opposed to a Constitutional amendment to ban it. Religious leadership need not accept such wisdom in counseling their flocks, but they should recognize this wisdom in their politics.”

#6 From Obama’s book, The Audacity of Hope: “I am not willing to have the state deny American citizens a civil union that confers equivalent rights on such basic matters as hospital visitation or health insurance coverage simply because the people they love are of the same sex—nor am I willing to accept a reading of the Bible that considers an obscure line in Romans to be more defining of Christianity than the Sermon on the Mount.”

#7 Obama’s response when asked what his definition of sin is: “Being out of alignment with my values.”

#8 “If all it took was someone proclaiming I believe Jesus Christ and that he died for my sins, and that was all there was to it, people wouldn’t have to keep coming to church, would they.”

#9 “This is something that I’m sure I’d have serious debates with my fellow Christians about. I think that the difficult thing about any religion, including Christianity, is that at some level there is a call to evangelize and prostelytize. There’s the belief, certainly in some quarters, that people haven’t embraced Jesus Christ as their personal savior that they’re going to hell.”

#10 “I find it hard to believe that my God would consign four-fifths of the world to hell. I can’t imagine that my God would allow some little Hindu kid in India who never interacts with the Christian faith to somehow burn for all eternity. That’s just not part of my religious makeup.”

#11 “I don’t presume to have knowledge of what happens after I die. But I feel very strongly that whether the reward is in the here and now or in the hereafter, the aligning myself to my faith and my values is a good thing.”

#12 “I’ve said this before, and I know this raises questions in the minds of some evangelicals. I do not believe that my mother, who never formally embraced Christianity as far as I know … I do not believe she went to hell.”

#13 “Those opposed to abortion cannot simply invoke God’s will–they have to explain why abortion violates some principle that is accessible to people of all faiths.”

#14 On his support for civil unions for gay couples: “If people find that controversial then I would just refer them to the Sermon on the Mount.”

#15 “You got into these small towns in Pennsylvania and, like a lot of small towns in the Midwest, the jobs have been gone now for 25 years and nothing’s replaced them. And they fell through the Clinton Administration, and the Bush Administration, and each successive administration has said that somehow these communities are gonna regenerate and they have not. And it’s not surprising then they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren’t like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations.”

#16 “In our household, the Bible, the Koran and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf alongside books of Greek and Norse and African mythology”

#17 “On Easter or Christmas Day, my mother might drag me to church, just as she dragged me to the Buddhist temple, the Chinese New Year celebration, the Shinto shrine, and ancient Hawaiian burial sites.”

#18 “We have Jews, Muslims, Hindus, atheists, agnostics, Buddhists, and their own path to grace is one that we have to revere and respect as much as our own”

#19 “All of us have a responsibility to work for the day when the mothers of Israelis and Palestinians can see their children grow up without fear; when the Holy Land of the three great faiths is the place of peace that God intended it to be; when Jerusalem is a secure and lasting home for Jews and Christians and Muslims, and a place for all of the children of Abraham to mingle peacefully together as in the story of Isra— (applause) — as in the story of Isra, when Moses, Jesus, and Mohammed, peace be upon them, joined in prayer. (Applause.)”

#20 “I believe that there are many paths to the same place, and that is a belief that there is a higher power, a belief that we are connected as a people.”

So somebody says he's a Muslim and Trump is supposed to know for sure he's not, and say so?

I've seen compilations of quotes like these in various places. This one was taken from the following link, which just happened to be what came up first on a google search.
http://www.youngcons.com/40-mind-blowing-quotes-barack-obama-islam-christianity/

 

[LibertyEagle]

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it probably is a duck.

 

[RPES1]

Who cares if hes a Muslim, Christian or Atheist?

 

[devil21]

Who cares if hes a Muslim, Christian or Atheist?

Or a Catholic? Funny how that one religion never is included in his possible faiths....

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Of course Trump didn't correct the man. Speculation about Obama being a crypto-Muslim plays perfectly into the xenophobia he's hoping to ride to the nomination. As for whether Obama actually is a Muslim, who cares? It's not reflected in his policies, which are no different from what McCain or Romney's would have been - i.e. growing the welfare-warfare state.

 

[TheNewYorker]

Or a Catholic? Funny how that one religion never is included in his possible faiths....

Catholics are not Christians?

 

[navy-vet]

Catholics are not Christians?

They were the last time that I heard.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Of course Trump didn't correct the man. Speculation about Obama being a crypto-Muslim plays perfectly into the xenophobia he's hoping to ride to the nomination. As for whether Obama actually is a Muslim, who cares? It's not reflected in his policies, which are no different from what McCain or Romney's would have been - i.e. growing the welfare-warfare state.

Yes, because putting your own country first is so "xenophobic".

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Yes, because putting your own country first is so "xenophobic".

When "putting your own country first" means "bombing and/or deporting brown people for no discernible reason," yes, it is.

 

[Christian Liberty]

The line that exists between being a black liberation theologian and a member of the Nation of Islam is actually extremely blurry, and it's not uncommon for people to play musical chairs between being a member of the Nation of Islam and being some sort of radical "Christian" pastor that dabbles in communism or some other form of left-wing politics, particularly the UCC given that congregationalist churches don't have checks and balances against tyrannical pastors both locally or via outer terms of communion. Granted, when people think of Obama actually being a Muslim they are thinking more along the lines of the more orthodox kind in North Africa, which is a bit different than the Nation of Islam in terms of doctrine and politics.

I don't know for certain that Obama is himself a Muslim or not, and it's pretty difficult to be certain. However, one thing that I am pretty confident in saying is that given his really terrible grasp of systematic theology and his occasional mockery of specific parts of the synoptic gospels that he is either an agnostic, or at the very least, leaning in more of a liberal theological direction. I don't think Christopher Hitchens was too off based when suggesting that Obama is probably an unbeliever, at least insofar as Christian orthodoxy is concerned.

Im not familiar with nation of Islam. But, the religious right nonsense that Obama is a radical Muslim is just stupid. Would a radical Muslim openly endorse abortion and gay marriage? Nope. Muslims are more "homophobic" than most Christians.

The thing is, that doesn't make him a Christian either. He's a secuar humanist, and that seems painfully obvious to me.

 

[LibertyEagle]

When "putting your own country first" means "bombing and/or deporting brown people for no discernible reason," yes, it is.

I would agree with you about the bombing part. The deporting thing? The discernible reason is that they entered our country illegally. And oh, it doesn't matter what color of the rainbow they are. Hope that helps you out.

 

[LibertyEagle]

Im not familiar with nation of Islam. But, the religious right nonsense that Obama is a radical Muslim is just stupid. Would a radical Muslim openly endorse abortion and gay marriage? Nope. Muslims are more "homophobic" than most Christians.

Not if his goal is to assist in bringing down the country.

 

[Feeding the Abscess]

I would agree with you about the bombing part. The deporting thing? The discernible reason is that they entered our country illegally. And oh, it doesn't matter what color of the rainbow they are. Hope that helps you out.

Should those who helped slaves escape from their masters have been punished? Should those who use marijuana as part of cancer treatment be thrown in jail?

 

[r3volution 3.0]

I would agree with you about the bombing part. The deporting thing? The discernible reason is that they entered our country illegally.

Which only begs the question; why should the laws restrict immigration?

And oh, it doesn't matter what color of the rainbow they are. Hope that helps you out.

Maybe not to you, but the teeming masses of Trumpites out there wouldn't care about this issue if it were Germans or Scots entering the country illegally.

Or not as much, anyway; you'd still have the "muh jerbs" fallacies.

 

[devil21]

Catholics are not Christians?

I can't really reconcile a "Christian" church that holds Mary in higher regard than Christ himself but ymmv.

You should also see my sig...
http://presscore.ca/bible-identifies-the-catholic-church-as-the-synagogue-of-satan

 

[RJB]

I can't really reconcile a "Christian" church that holds Mary in higher regard than Christ himself but ymmv.

Where did you pull that BS from?

 

[RPES1]

Or a Catholic? Funny how that one religion never is included in his possible faiths....

Or Shinto, Jainism, Buddhism, Hinduism, Sikhism, Bahá'í, Judaism, Tenrikyo, Rastafarianism, Pastafarianism, or goes to the Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption Church.

My point is why does it matter?