Trump Admin Pauses All Student Visa Interviews, May Include Social Media Vetting

[acptulsa]

Working class American families should not have to compete with Chinese billionaires and assorted global brown sob stories for spaces in our universities.

That's right. Let their own government brainwash them.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I can't recall who at the moment, but somebody said when an exchange of ideas are not allowed to cross borders other countries will benefit. Either Ron Paul, or Mises perhaps?

It's misattributed to Bastiat, but it was actually written by a left leaning Philadelphian named Otto T Mallery in a book written in 1943:

In addition to his work in recreation, Mallery is also known for his economic writings. He authored "Economic Union and Durable Peace," published in 1943, which includes a quote often mistakenly attributed to Frédéric Bastiat: "If soldiers are not to cross international boundaries, goods must do so. Unless shackles can be dropped from trade, bombs will be dropped from the sky".

And my question for Mallery and all the other globalist free traders is this:

If that statement is true, why, in the age of unlimited US "free trade" have we been at war pretty much since WWII and have troops in over 100 countries around the world?

 

[Anti Federalist]

Bait and Switch? From the title:

Include Social Media Vetting

Will that be concentrated AI control/power among the few at work? Palantir? Etc.?

Why should government grant or not grant access to anything or anybody?

This is why:

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness.

And this:

and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

 

[Snowball]

“Every time anyone says that Israel is our only friend in the Middle East, I can’t help but think that before Israel, we had no enemies in the Middle East.”
— John Sheehan, S.J.

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From The Journal of Historical Review, March/April 2002 (Vol. 21, No. 2), page 34.

 

[PAF]

It's misattributed to Bastiat, but it was actually written by a left leaning Philadelphian named Otto T Mallery in a book written in 1943:

In addition to his work in recreation, Mallery is also known for his economic writings. He authored "Economic Union and Durable Peace," published in 1943, which includes a quote often mistakenly attributed to Frédéric Bastiat: "If soldiers are not to cross international boundaries, goods must do so. Unless shackles can be dropped from trade, bombs will be dropped from the sky".

And my question for Mallery and all the other globalist free traders is this:

If that statement is true, why, in the age of unlimited US "free trade" have we been at war pretty much since WWII and have troops in over 100 countries around the world?

That should be rephrased. We don't have Free Trade, let alone "unlimited".

Since this country turned into a corporation it has only served the corporatists interest. The troops you refer to in over 100 countries around the world is because of the Military Industrial Complex and the corporations it serves. Only now it's the 4th Industrial Revolution, where you are falling for it once again and are gleefully propping up the Technocrats. Same exact deal [MIC], but with advanced technology in the hands of a more streamlined efficient few/elite.

 

[Anti Federalist]

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[TheTexan]

That should be rephrased. We don't have Free Trade, let alone "unlimited".

Perhaps what we have is better referred to as global trade, rather than free trade.

But it seems to me like it's a distinction without a difference. The problems that have been created by global trade are not going to automatically be resolved by making it "free" trade.

Free trade wouldn't revive the American manufacturing industry. If anything it would send us further down the trajectory we're already on.

Free trade also wouldn't relieve America of the risks of dependencies drawing us into entangling alliances and conflicts. Again, if anything, it would just make it worse.

So, no, we don't have "free trade". But I don't see any reason to expect, that free trade would somehow be a panacea of any kind, for the problems that global trade has created.

Free trade is just global trade without restrictions. And global trade itself is the problem.

 

[acptulsa]

Free trade wouldn't revive the American manufacturing industry. If anything it would send us further down the trajectory we're already on.

Sure it would. Of course, it has to be accompanied by freedom to create here at home. Call it freedom for humans, instead of free lunches for corporations.

 

[TheTexan]

Sure it would. Of course, it has to be accompanied by freedom to create here at home. Call it freedom for humans, instead of free lunches for corporations.

Yea I know your position on it.

You think we have the supply chain infrastructure to compete with China.

LOL

 

[acptulsa]

You think we have the supply chain infrastructure to compete with China.

LOL

Why can't we create it?

Except for the fact that we have a government which is our enemy and a brainwashed populace with a defeatist attitude, that is.

 

[TheTexan]

Why can't we create it?

Except for the fact that we have a government which is our enemy and a brainwashed populace with a defeatist attitude, that is.

Well, consider this. For many industrial parts, if you wanted to create a factory for those parts in America, most of your suppliers would be from China, and all of your customers would be China.

There is no "free market" way for a company to make a profitable factory that produces that part. First, because you're shipping everything from and to China, and second, China's going to charge you a premium on top of what it would cost to produce it in China.

It's just simply not possible to profitably produce such parts in America.

What's happened over the decades, is that this has applied to more and more parts, and more and more factories have gone out of business, creating a cascading failure of the manufacturing industry in America.

A factory cannot be profitable on its own without a network of suppliers, vendors, and customers, to support it.

Our manufacturing base has been basically obliterated to the point that it's not recoverable in any organic free market way. And this was China's entire intention and they executed it perfectly.

 

[acptulsa]

Our manufacturing base has been basically obliterated to the point that it's not recoverable in any organic free market way. And this was China's entire intention and they executed it perfectly.

Because a manufacturing base can't be created, it's a naturally occurring resource which both the US and China have had since time immemorial, and which can only be destroyed.

Just like people in other countries can elect people from many different political parties, but the US can only have two and China can only have one due to immutable laws of physics.

Defeatist.

 

[TheTexan]

Because a manufacturing base can't be created, it's a naturally occurring resource which both the US and China have had since time immemorial, and which can only be destroyed.

Just like people in other countries can elect people from many different political parties, but the US can only have two and China can only have one due to immutable laws of physics.

Defeatist.

You didn't even read my post or even tried to counter any of it.

You just gave me your usual garbage because you're a bot like nikcers

 

[acptulsa]

You didn't even read my post or even tried to counter any of it.

I read it. It's garbage. Without sabotage from an oppressive regulatory structure established by the ruling regime, shipping costs are enough to handicap remote suppliers. That's all the advantage Americans have ever needed.

 

[TheTexan]

I read it. It's garbage. Without sabotage from an oppressive regulatory structure established by the ruling regime, shipping costs are enough to handicap remote suppliers. That's all the advantage Americans have ever needed.

Ok so basically if I start a factory for some industrial widget but I need to purchase a part X, and that part X is currently only available from China, you're saying that's "not a problem" because it "handicaps the supplier"?

It handicaps the customer!!

For me to profitably build a factory that produces this widget, I need a supplier in America that produces X and he needs a supplier in America that produces Y. That supplier who produces Y, needs a supplier in America that needs Z. And so on and so on.

Furthermore - for me to profitably sell a part X, I need a customer in America that wants X. For a customer that wants X, he has to produce some random other part with its own set recursive supply chain dependencies.

It's all interlinked and dependent on each other, and for an "entrepreneur" to bootstrap this network of suppliers, vendors, and customers, they'd have to spend trillions of dollars to do that.

That's not going to happen without some kind of government intervention.

 

[TheTexan]

I don't get what's so hard to understand. It's basically what Adam Smith said would happen, though he presented it as a "good thing"

 

[acptulsa]

That's not going to happen without some kind of government intervention.

Sycophant talk. Been on this forum for fifteen years and you learned nothing.

Fortunately many Americans are less brainwashed and more resilient than you.

 

[TheTexan]

Sycophant talk. Been on this forum for fifteen years and you learned nothing.

Fortunately many Americans are less brainwashed and more resilient than you.

Dude a factory cannot exist without vendors and suppliers.

A vendor cannot exist without factories and suppliers.

And suppliers cannot exist without vendors and factories.

That isn't "sycophant talk", it's stating the fuckin obvious.

 

[acptulsa]

I don't get what's so hard to understand. It's basically what Adam Smith said would happen, though he presented it as a "good thing"

I don't recall Smith saying anything must last forever. The only reason you even think it isn't possible is because it would take work, dedication and purpose. These things aren't in such short supply in the US as you think.

Just because Trump has none of these things you think America has none of them. All we need to MAGA is to get Trump's fat ass (among others) out of the way.

 

[TheTexan]

I don't recall Smith saying anything must last forever.

I'm not saying it will last forever. Eventually in 100-200 years some world event is going to change the landscape of things and China's dominance will fall. Or maybe sooner with World War III.

The only reason you even think it isn't possible is because it would take work, dedication and purpose.

You're basically waving your magic wand and saying the free market will fix it. Fix what? According to the free market it's not even a problem. Who cares if China does all the manufacturing? That's what the free market says. If the free market thinks it's not a problem, how the fuck is the free market gonna fix it?