This can increase chances for a brokered convention!!!

[alarga]

The big risk that McSwine can reach the magic number and avoid a brokered convention is the winner takes all states. So how to block him from getting all delegates in such states where he is estimated to win?

I've made this point before but noone seems to notice. Wouldn't it be tactically smart to join forces with the Hucksters in a common ballot in those winner take all states where McSwine is polled highest? At this point any and every trick in the book should be applied.

The other candidates did this in LA ("pro-life, pro family") to block a RP win and its only fitting they get a taste of their own poison. We've already made a Huckster deal where Paul got 3 token delegates as a reward for throwin his support behind the Huckster.

HOWEVER - this time Huck has more too loose since he is at second place and it will be beneficial for him if RP gets most delegates of a joint list and he gets some token candidates just to block McSwine. I bet such a joint list would also get extra votes as a protest against McSwine as well as some Romney votes.

Im not suggesting to vote for Huck. Im not even suggesting joint lists in all states. Im talking about those remaining winner takes all states where McSwine is strongest.

I cant see any other alternative to block him from reaching the required amount of delegates that secures his position and avoids a brokered convention.

This will also buy us time - which is on our side since McSwines support will decrease if he gets beaten state by state onwards. And that would increase peoples perception of RP as "electable" and perhaps give us the extra boost to make a few clean RP wins.

Anyone who is involved in the RP organization of the remaining states - please respond! What say ye?

 

[billjarrett]

I have a hundred reasons to agree with you, but a hundred reasons to disagree with you.

No matter though, HQ came out earlier this week and said to vote for Paul. That we were going for the nomination not a brokered convention. Interpret that as you will I guess, I still don't get it...

 

[jrich4rpaul]

No matter though, HQ came out earlier this week and said to vote for Paul. That we were going for the nomination not a brokered convention. Interpret that as you will I guess, I still don't get it...

+1

 

[Ron Paul Fan]

There is only 1 more state that is winner take all, and that's Vermont on 3/4 with a whole 17 delegates. Just face it guys, a brokered convention has no chance of happening and McCain will steamroll to the nomination.

 

[nate895]

Look at my delegate projections thread.

I found it nearly impossible for McCain to come out with an outright win, the media keeps saying no more winner-take-alls (which is the case if talking about every delegate), not the case, and the winner-take-all by CDs tend to favor Huckabee.

 

[alarga]

Whos talking about voting for the Huckster? Im talking about getting THEM to vote for RP either directly or on a joint list (ala LAs pro family) in order to beat McCain. This will bring Paul many delegates which means going for the nomination - and a few to the Huckster yes (depends on the deal between the campaigns) - but MUCH BETTER than getting ZERO delegates and let McCain GET ALL OF THEM!

I cant imagine anyone in the RP campaign being against this??? Then someone needs to investigate if they get their salary from the McCain Campaign!

 

[nate895]

Whos talking about voting for the Huckster? Im talking about getting THEM to vote for RP either directly or on a joint list (ala LAs pro family) in order to beat McCain. This will bring Paul many delegates which means going for the nomination - and a few to the Huckster yes (depends on the deal between the campaigns) - but MUCH BETTER than getting ZERO delegates and let McCain GET ALL OF THEM!

I cant imagine anyone in the RP campaign being against this??? Then someone needs to investigate if they get their salary from the McCain Campaign!

We can do this in the Pennsylvania Primary.

 

[alarga]

Look at my delegate projections thread.

I found it nearly impossible for McCain to come out with an outright win, the media keeps saying no more winner-take-alls (which is the case if talking about every delegate), not the case, and the winner-take-all by CDs tend to favor Huckabee.

Oh I see!

What a pity that this strategy wasn't implemented PRIOR to super tuesday.

 

[brandon]

We can do this in the Pennsylvania Primary.

PA delegates are not bound to the presidential popularity contest. Vote Paul in PA

 

[KevinR]

btw a lot of people were saying yesterday to vote for huckabee and what did that get us? Him losing and us losing even more :[

 

[A Ron Paul Rebel]

Then let's have the Huksters go first and throw their vote OUR way.
Then maybe once they've help Dr. Paul win a state, we'll return the favor!

 

[alarga]

This has to be an organized thing - not lets see who votes for who. For instance a joint list where the campaigns have a deal of which delegates goes where. Or like in the state where the RP delegates voted for the Huckster in order to get 3 as a reward (only this time THEY get the tokens and Paul the bulk).

 

[JS4Pat]

Wouldn't it be tactically smart to join forces with the Hucksters in a common ballot in those winner take all states where McSwine is polled highest?

Possibly - but I get the feeling the Huckster is in McSwine's pocket.

Why is he not out there just tearing apart McSwine?
Answer: He wants to be in the game after the Primaries are over. He wants a VP or Cabinet position. He is playing nice.

It's Huck 1st - Party 2nd - Country 3rd

 

[alarga]

Why is he not out there just tearing apart McSwine?
Answer: He wants to be in the game after the Primaries are over. He wants a VP or Cabinet position. He is playing nice.

It's Huck 1st - Party 2nd - Country 3rd

No doubt. But that is immaterial. Because his voters believes in him and wants him in the white house, and the deal has to be made with those local hucksters in any given state(s).

 

[s35wf]

Has anyone dialogue with hucks army, would they help Paul win a state to defeat mcshame and get this to a brokered convention???

 

[cazeringue]

Look, there is an Outside chance that McCAin will McMelt down or have a stroke. So, unless that happens, he is the Republican NOminee.

What we, as Ron Paul supporters and Liberty Torch bearers, need to be focused is on the Liberty March on DC and spreading the movement to others. Educate our brothers and sisters with the message of Ron Paul locally and to all whom you meet, like a ripple in the ocean.

Alot can happen between now and November. It's not a question of HOW but a mindset that the Constitution will be RESTORED.

Paul may or may not end up being president, but Liberty will be RESTORED. Basically, our intention of the outcome is bigger than who is or isn't president. Paul just happened to be the messenger... sort of like JOHN the Baptist. Maybe if Paul was the nominee, things would not have changed soo much and he would have been rendered ineffective in that position.

 

[alarga]

Has anyone dialogue with hucks army, would they help Paul win a state to defeat mcshame and get this to a brokered convention???

Good question. Their motivation however, would not be a brokered convention but a block of McSwine to increase the Hucksters direct win. Brokered convention is OUR advantage.

 

[nate895]

PA delegates are not bound to the presidential popularity contest. Vote Paul in PA

That's what I was saying, maybe we can get Huckabee and Paul people to have the same delegate planks.

 

[alarga]

Look, there is an Outside chance that McCAin will McMelt down or have a stroke. So, unless that happens, he is the Republican NOminee.

What we, as Ron Paul supporters and Liberty Torch bearers, need to be focused is on the Liberty March on DC and spreading the movement to others. Educate our brothers and sisters with the message of Ron Paul locally and to all whom you meet, like a ripple in the ocean.

Alot can happen between now and November. It's not a question of HOW but a mindset that the Constitution will be RESTORED.

Paul may or may not end up being president, but Liberty will be RESTORED. Basically, our intention of the outcome is bigger than who is or isn't president. Paul just happened to be the messenger... sort of like JOHN the Baptist. Maybe if Paul was the nominee, things would not have changed soo much and he would have been rendered ineffective in that position.

How can this threaten the march? Of course thats a priority - but have we totally given up on the white house race already?

This strategy would neither drain the official campaign nor the grassroots, it just concerns those in charge of the political dealings in the state(s) where this may be a rational move.

 

[nate895]

Look, there is an Outside chance that McCAin will McMelt down or have a stroke. So, unless that happens, he is the Republican NOminee.

What we, as Ron Paul supporters and Liberty Torch bearers, need to be focused is on the Liberty March on DC and spreading the movement to others. Educate our brothers and sisters with the message of Ron Paul locally and to all whom you meet, like a ripple in the ocean.

Alot can happen between now and November. It's not a question of HOW but a mindset that the Constitution will be RESTORED.

Paul may or may not end up being president, but Liberty will be RESTORED. Basically, our intention of the outcome is bigger than who is or isn't president. Paul just happened to be the messenger... sort of like JOHN the Baptist. Maybe if Paul was the nominee, things would not have changed soo much and he would have been rendered ineffective in that position.

Wrong, it is almost impossible for him to clinch the Republican Nomination, see my delegate projections thread.