The GOP will change its tune on Donald Trump. Just wait.

I thought Rand was still supposed to be on the ballot in all 50 states. He isn't, in yours?

Rand gave up. If you're going to vote for a Paul this year, better to write in Ron, who is both more deserving and a more pointed protest vote.
 
Still... he kinda sunk rand paul.

Rands not absolved from blame for the low poll results, but without cruz, rand would still be in the race.

Couldn't have done it more obnoxiously either. Having had known for probably 2 years prior that Rand was going to run, and knowing well ahead of time the exact date Rand planned to announce, Cruz announced one week before without even giving Rand the courtesy of prior notice. Cruz never had a shot and he probably knew it, which makes the act all the more odious.

I suspect that Cruz was paid to tank Rand's campaign. He is, after all, married into Goldman Sachs. Having abdicated the Audit the Fed vote was a major tell as to where he really stands.
 
Couldn't have done it more obnoxiously either. Having had known for probably 2 years prior that Rand was going to run, and knowing well ahead of time the exact date Rand planned to announce, Cruz announced one week before without even giving Rand the courtesy of prior notice. Cruz never had a shot and he probably knew it, which makes the act all the more odious.

I suspect that Cruz was paid to tank Rand's campaign. He is, after all, married into Goldman Sachs. Having abdicated the Audit the Fed vote was a major tell as to where he really stands.

Nah. Cruz is just incredibly ambitious, which is what irked his superiors in the Bush Administration.
 
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With Hillary the temp will just keep slowly rising with the Frog in the pot. Trump will pull the Frog out of the pot, cut off and fry his legs on a grill.

The people wont have to be educated to recognize they are living in a total police state, it will literally hit them in the head.
 
Trump is the only candidate effectively or proposing to:

- deal with trade in-balances that have created high unemployment and driven out manufacturing and jobs. Check.

Protectionism is economic illiteracy; his plan for a massive tariff is a reason to not vote for him. Also, it's imbalances, no hyphen. ;)

- deal with mass immigration and open borders that for American citizens has driven down wages and created high unemployment. Check.

His plan is to deport all illegals, and then let all those without criminal records (i.e. virtually all of them) back in through a special expedited process.

This plan is called touchback. It's a form of legalization designed to appeal to the stupidest of the immigration hawks (who won't read past the deportation part).

Evidently, it works as intended.

- allow health care competition across state lines. - Proposed by Rand/Ron. Check.

Every single Republican candidate favors this.

change US foreign policy and is calling out the Neocons on foreign intervention more effectively than Ron/Rand. Check.

It's obvious that he has no clear understanding of foreign policy, and no principled opposition to intervention.

He does throw out the occasional non-interventionist soundbite.

- end the Democratic and news media tool of using political correctness to control the political process. Check.

Translation: give a minority of the GOP a boner for a few months with juicy rhetoric, to result in absolutely nothing of any consequence.

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So, your list of pros is mostly cons.

And here are some more:

  • no plan to cut spending (when pressed he says "waste, fraud, and abuse")
  • actively opposes entitlement reform
  • favors single-payer socialized medicine
  • favors bank bailouts and corporate bailouts generally (what if there's another recession in the next 4-8 years?)
  • wants to not only maintain the existing police state, but expand it (Muslim database, more torture, closing internet, etc)
 
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I agree. I just can't fathom the love for Trump I'm seeing here.

I'm not sure it's as much love for Trump as it is hatred towards the establishment. Trump is burning it down at the moment... After what we witnessed happen to Ron Paul, I suspect that the sentiment around here is better characterized as "the enemy of my enemy is my friend".
 
Trump is a step in the right direction.

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I really think people are projecting onto him what they want to believe. Obama benefitted from that same phenomenon. It must have something to do with self-promotion skills. I have seen absolutely ZERO evidence that Trump would be a step in a better direction. I think that's just plain fantasy.
 
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I really think people are projecting onto him what they want to believe. Obama benefitted from that same phenomenon. It must have something to do with self-promotion skills. I have seen absolutely ZERO evidence that Trump would be a step in a better direction. I think that's just plain fantasy.

Agreed, however, he has called for auditing the Fed. That's the big enchilada of the Liberty movement.
 
I'm not sure it's as much love for Trump as it is hatred towards the establishment. Trump is burning it down at the moment.

I see a lot of WWE style theatrics between Trump and the establishment. But where's the evidence of any actual damage he's done to it or portends to do?
 
I see a lot of WWE style theatrics between Trump and the establishment. But where's the evidence of any actual damage he's done to it or portends to do?

The fact that he has neutralized it:

The establishment propaganda arm, er "media" has lost it's ability to control the narrative.
The establishment propaganda arm, er "media" has lost it's ability to influence the polls.
Big establishment money has failed to propel their chosen puppets into the lead.

Bush dropped out.
Rubio has no chance.

QED
 
The fact that he has neutralized it:

I don't see that. I see Trump as the front runner to be the next president, running on a platform of accruing ever more power to the executive branch of the federal government, and see no reason to think that the establishment will have any difficulty working with him to achieve that common goal.
 
The fact that he has neutralized it:

The establishment propaganda arm, er "media" has lost it's ability to control the narrative.
The establishment propaganda arm, er "media" has lost it's ability to influence the polls.
Big establishment money has failed to propel their chosen puppets into the lead.

Bush dropped out.
Rubio has no chance.

QED

Fact? lol
 
I don't see that. I see Trump as the front runner to be the next president, running on a platform of accruing ever more power to the executive branch of the federal government, and see no reason to think that the establishment will have any difficulty working with him to achieve that common goal.

Oh, I see what you mean. Yes, that's a possibility.

When I said he was "burning it down", I was referring to the establishment "machine" that pumps their chosen candidates while marginalizing the undesirables. Hence the Ron Paul reference.
 
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