STOP Demonizing Teachers and Cops.

[andrewh817]

They too have been INDOCTRINATED.
How many cops and teachers are out there?
You can open their minds to the system they are in.
Don't you want people on the inside fighting the system?

Actually the only way for them to fight the system would be to resign from their jobs....

 

[newbitech]

2 speakers, and about 5 members either trashed or made fun of teachers or the NEA. She was pretty good about the whole thing. She did talk to the other teachers about the fed and how they are protected BY law from an audit. She also talked about how the "system" of influencing officials and how she did like Ron Paul and the Judges speech.

Has anyone knowtice that Ron Paul trys NOT to talk about the individual unless he has to and NOT to insult them but to argue with Knowlege and Wisdom?

Ty everyone for the heated disscussion. I really wanted to get this out.

did you confront those people? What exactly did the speakers say? How about some fact like where, who, when. etc.. have you contacted anyone about this issue in the leadership chain? It sounds like you are talking about the St. Louis regional.

Also, your thread title is saying teachers and cops? Why did you throw those two in together? If you are concerned about the hostility in this movement, you shouldn't be surprised. Take a look at what is happening in Europe. No they might not be showing a good message or inline with our beliefs, but believe me, this movement is still in a passive mode. The heat hasn't turned up here yet.

 

[JK/SEA]

LOL
The primary motivation behind teachers is to maintain their fat paychecks by creating mindless drones.

This is the most idiotic thread I have ever read.

You guys that demonize teachers don't know what you're talking about.

And what makes this thread so idiotic is comments above in the quote box.

 

[acptulsa]

Actually the only way for them to fight the system would be to resign from their jobs....

Hear that, Dr. Paul? You aren't fighting the system by voting against everything with earmarks, everything wasteful, and everything unconstitutional. Resign, come home, sit on your narrow ass in Lake Victoria and clean your guns, sir. You are merely propigating the system and wasting your time and our hope for change. Give it up and stop feeding the beast.

[/sarcasm]

 

[newbitech]

LOL
The primary motivation behind teachers is to maintain their fat paychecks by creating mindless drones.

This is the most idiotic thread I have ever read.

fat paychecks? you misquote and thus muddle your rebuttal. Ever here of FCAT? Show me an FCAT test that comes close to mentioning standing armies and the implications thereof or the Federal Reserve and Central banking control over the people vis a vis a fiat currency backed by the hot air that politicians spew daily.

I think you should check your motive in posting here, and maybe if you really do teach check your effectiveness in spreading anykind of liberty message to "your kids".

 

[bossman068410]

did you confront those people? What exactly did the speakers say? How about some fact like where, who, when. etc.. have you contacted anyone about this issue in the leadership chain? It sounds like you are talking about the St. Louis regional.

Also, your thread title is saying teachers and cops? Why did you throw those two in together? If you are concerned about the hostility in this movement, you shouldn't be surprised. Take a look at what is happening in Europe. No they might not be showing a good message or inline with our beliefs, but believe me, this movement is still in a passive mode. The heat hasn't turned up here yet.

That's why I posted here. I wanted to get the feedback here first.
I wanted to dicuss this.

Yes i do worry. It might be WAY to late to slowly bring people around.

Ty Newbitech I do appreciate your opinion !!!!!

 

[homah]

You fail to grasp that teachers, by and large, WANT kids to become little drones who understand very little of the principles upon which this country was founded. Their paychecks depend upon it.

This is bullshit. I have never met a single teacher who thought like this. Perhaps some are unaware that parts of the books they are using are propaganda, but I have never heard of a teacher purposely misguiding his/her students.

 

[newbitech]

You guys that demonize teachers don't know what you're talking about.

And what makes this thread so idiotic is comments above in the quote box.

teachers and cops demonize themselves, Liberty Lovers simply point it out.

Main Entry:de·mon Variant(s):or dae·mon \ˈdē-mən\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English demon, from Late Latin & Latin; Late Latin daemon evil spirit, from Latin, divinity, spirit, from Greek daimōn, probably from daiesthai to distribute — more at tideDate:13th century 1 a: an evil spirit b: a source or agent of evil, harm, distress, or ruin2usually daemon : an attendant power or spirit : genius3usually daemon : a supernatural being of Greek mythology intermediate between gods and men4: one that has exceptional enthusiasm, drive, or effectiveness <a demon for work>


Which part of that definition do you disagree with? And how does anyone here have anyway to turn a teacher into THAT type of teacher?

 

[Justinjj1]

You guys that demonize teachers don't know what you're talking about.

And what makes this thread so idiotic is comments above in the quote box.

my above quote was sarcasm in case you didn't notice.

 

[newbitech]

That's why I posted here. I wanted to get the feedback here first.
I wanted to dicuss this.

Yes i do worry. It might be WAY to late to slowly bring people around.

Ty Newbitech I do appreciate your opinion !!!!!

Alright, well this subject fired me up a little. I hope that you will confront this issue locally and report back the results. In the future, please have the confidence to nip these types of issues in the bud so they don't grow even if I and others think your concerns are unfounded.

 

[Minarchy4Sale]

kill all the cops and teachers. ok, now what?

Actually, I was mostly just thinking of firing them. Cops can go eat donuts and guard malls and Public school teachers will find work in new private schools or do something new.

 

[homah]

teachers and cops demonize themselves, Liberty Lovers simply point it out.

Main Entry:de·mon Variant(s):or dae·mon \ˈdē-mən\ Function:noun Etymology:Middle English demon, from Late Latin & Latin; Late Latin daemon evil spirit, from Latin, divinity, spirit, from Greek daimōn, probably from daiesthai to distribute — more at tideDate:13th century 1 a: an evil spirit b: a source or agent of evil, harm, distress, or ruin2usually daemon : an attendant power or spirit : genius3usually daemon : a supernatural being of Greek mythology intermediate between gods and men4: one that has exceptional enthusiasm, drive, or effectiveness <a demon for work>


Which part of that definition do you disagree with? And how does anyone here have anyway to turn a teacher into THAT type of teacher?

Demonize doesn't mean the same thing as demon. One meaning of demonize is "to represent as evil or diabolic."

 

[pcosmar]

LOL
The primary motivation behind teachers is to maintain their fat paychecks by creating mindless drones.

This is the most idiotic thread I have ever read.

No it is not. Public schools teach conformity. It is not the building that teaches this. The "system" does not interact with children. Teachers do.

How many teachers are teaching kids to question authority? How many teach the the Police ARE NOT your friend?
How many teach what is expressed in my sig line.???

 

[Justinjj1]

fat paychecks? you misquote and thus muddle your rebuttal. Ever here of FCAT? Show me an FCAT test that comes close to mentioning standing armies and the implications thereof or the Federal Reserve and Central banking control over the people vis a vis a fiat currency backed by the hot air that politicians spew daily.

I think you should check your motive in posting here, and maybe if you really do teach check your effectiveness in spreading anykind of liberty message to "your kids".

I have a sticker on my door at school that says "The Federal Reserve: Looting the U.S Since 1913". I have shown "America: Freedom to Fascism" to my class, we have discussed in depth the founding fathers distrust of standing armies and Jackson's war with bank.

 

[homah]

No it is not. Public schools teach conformity. It is not the building that teaches this. The "system" does not interact with children. Teachers do.

How many teachers are teaching kids to question authority? How many teach the the Police ARE NOT your friend?
How many teach what is expressed in my sig line.???

I don't know of any teachers who say not to question authority or that police are your friend.

Perhaps we should bring back civics classes so that people are more aware of their rights. Then, they can decide for themselves whether individual authority figures are good or bad.

 

[bossman068410]

i have a sticker on my door at school that says "the federal reserve: Looting the u.s since 1913". I have shown "america: Freedom to fascism" to my class, we have discussed in depth the founding fathers distrust of standing armies and jackson's war with bank.

awesome

thank you !!!

 

[newbitech]

Demonize doesn't mean the same thing as demon. One meaning of demonize is "to represent as evil or diabolic."

and the other two definitions are

1. To turn into or as if into a demon.
2. To possess by or as if by a demon.

So you are basically saying that we are putting out propaganda. I agree we are in a war. But I completely disagree that we are running the propaganda machine. You might want to take a look at the curriculum and what is required by the state of teachers and schools to see who is running the propaganda. Public school teachers thru the state curriculum simply prepare young minds to by highly susceptible to the propaganda. Thus it is the teachers and the state who seek to demonize (in you understanding of the word), third parties and constitutional principles. Including Ron Paul and his supporters, which apparently included you and I.

 

[homah]

and the other two definitions are

1. To turn into or as if into a demon.
2. To possess by or as if by a demon.

So you are basically saying that we are putting out propaganda. I agree we are in a war. But I completely disagree that we are running the propaganda machine. You might want to take a look at the curriculum and what is required by the state of teachers and schools to see who is running the propaganda. Public school teachers thru the state curriculum simply prepare young minds to by highly susceptible to the propaganda. Thus it is the teachers and the state who seek to demonize (in you understanding of the word), third parties and constitutional principles. Including Ron Paul and his supporters, which apparently included you and I.

I must have misunderstood your prior post. I was simply just trying to clarify what another poster meant by his usage of the word demonize.

 

[newbitech]

I have a sticker on my door at school that says "The Federal Reserve: Looting the U.S Since 1913". I have shown "America: Freedom to Fascism" to my class, we have discussed in depth the founding fathers distrust of standing armies and Jackson's war with bank.

tell us more, has anyone at your school mentioned anything to you about the visibility of the sticker? Such as the principle, other teachers, etc?

Did you give a test about this movie to see what was retained? Did you test the children and develop their knowledge on these issues? Did you give them homework assignments related to this material to take home and study with their parents?

I'd really like to know how you think having a sticker on your door, watching a movie, and having in debt (lol Freudian slip i suppose, i won't edit it for the lulz) discussions is influencing these kids.

 

[newbitech]

I must have misunderstood your prior post. I was simply just trying to clarify what another poster meant by his usage of the word demonize.

I know what he meant. And I completely disagree. That definition of the word is not applicable in this argument which is why I pointed it out. Thank you tho, this debate wouldn't be nearly as heated if the public school system was effective in teaching communication skills.:o