Shooter at DC Navy yard

[Natural Citizen]

That is just a myth. It can be a very sane thing to shoot government employees. Just look at Thomas Jefferson: massive shooting spree against government employees. If Alexis had shot all government employees instead of just a handful, he might have gone down in history books as the founding father of a new era of liberty.

What basis is there for your opinion about "sanity"? When the government kills people, do you jump to assumptions about the government's sanity?

No. You beg to be in the good graces of the bot as you make your case. Live and learn, bitch. I don't like you.

 

[Zippyjuan]

That is just a myth. It can be a very sane thing to shoot government employees. Just look at Thomas Jefferson: massive shooting spree against government employees. If Alexis had shot all government employees instead of just a handful, he might have gone down in history books as the founding father of a new era of liberty.

What basis is there for your opinion about "sanity"? When the government kills people, do you jump to assumptions about the government's sanity and the government's "need" for "help"?

I believe the government "needs" some "help" big-time.

Sorry. My mistake. All mass killers are sane and only became killers because the government gave them drugs and guns. Thanks for the correction.

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

bitch. I don't like you.

Cry it out?

Sorry. My mistake. All mass killers are sane and only became killers because the government gave them drugs and guns. Thanks for the correction.

^ false dichotomty

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Perhaps because sane people not needing psychological help generally don't do such things?

- They include the warnings on the drug labesl. It's not like this is a brand new hypothesis.
- Make a list of all of the mass shooters for the past ten years. How many were not on SSRIs?

 

[Thor]

- They include the warnings on the drug labesl. It's not like this is a brand new hypothesis.
- Make a list of all of the mass shooters for the past ten years. How many were not on SSRIs?

Yes, you only need the 1 in 10,000, or 1 in 100,000, or 1 in 1,000,0000 occurrence to be the magic mixture that creates a mass killer to happen enough times to say, hey, maybe 1 out of 10,000 or 100,0000 or 1,000,0000 is too much of a risk for this crap... But the FDA rubber stamped it after the company funded studies and generous fees and donations proved it was "safe"

 

[Thor]

dupe

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

- Make a list of all of the mass shooters for the past ten years. How many were not on SSRIs?

Thomas Jefferson was not on SSRI's.

 

[presence]

[h=3]Navy Yard Shooter: "microwave machine vibrations" police report[/h]

 

[PatriotOne]

Just another government mind control victim being used to push an agenda. It was an easy spot this time.

 

[jdmyprez_deo_vindice]

He might just be your average DC sociopath...

He was a member of Congress?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Thomas Jefferson was not on SSRI's.

Hadn't heard about this shooter named Thomas Jefferson in the past ten years.

 

[Thor]

He was a member of Congress?

+rep

 

[green73]

He was a member of Congress?

+rep

DC is all about politicians...

 

[better-dead-than-fed]

Make a list of all of the mass shooters for the past ten years. How many were not on SSRIs?

• Thomas Jefferson ("They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War...." Source);
• Mark Essex (He joined the United States Navy... where he claimed he was subjected to two years of ceaseless racial abuse.... friends tried to explain to him that racism in the military was just a bitter pill that he had to learn to swallow.... Source);
• James Huberty ("Society had its chance." Source);
• George Hennard ("This is what Bell County did to me." Source);
• Gian Ferri ("When you hire a consultant or an attorney you don’t hire for the purpose of getting raped and then having all your efforts toward legal recourse totally thwarted...." Source)
• Theodore Kaczynski (Industrial Society and Its Future);
• Tim McVeigh ("I explain herein why I bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.... I chose to bomb a federal building because such an action served more purposes than other options. Foremost, the bombing was a retaliatory strike; a counter attack... Knowledge of these multiple and ever-more aggressive raids across the country constituted an identifiable pattern of conduct within and by the federal government and amongst its various agencies. For all intents and purposes, federal agents had become "soldiers" (using military training, tactics, techniques, equipment, language, dress, organization, and mindset) and they were escalating their behavior. Therefore, this bombing was also meant as a pre-emptive (or pro-active) strike against these forces and their command and control centers within the federal building. When an aggressor force continually launches attacks from a particular base of operation, it is sound military strategy to take the fight to the enemy." Source);
• Nidal Hasan (sought to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes based on statements they made during psychiatric sessions with him... his superiors rejected the requests. Source)
• Christopher Dorner ("This is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name." Source)

If the Government becomes a lawbreaker, ... it invites every man to become a law unto himself....

http://ablogonpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/06/justice-brandeis_24.html

 

[Brian4Liberty]

• Thomas Jefferson ("They too have been deaf to the voice of justice and of consanguinity. We must, therefore, acquiesce in the necessity, which denounces our Separation, and hold them, as we hold the rest of mankind, Enemies in War...." Source);
• Mark Essex (He joined the United States Navy... where he claimed he was subjected to two years of ceaseless racial abuse.... friends tried to explain to him that racism in the military was just a bitter pill that he had to learn to swallow.... Source);
• James Huberty ("Society had its chance." Source);
• George Hennard ("This is what Bell County did to me." Source);
• Theodore Kaczynski (Industrial Society and Its Future);
• Tim McVeigh ("I explain herein why I bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City.... I chose to bomb a federal building because such an action served more purposes than other options. Foremost, the bombing was a retaliatory strike; a counter attack... Knowledge of these multiple and ever-more aggressive raids across the country constituted an identifiable pattern of conduct within and by the federal government and amongst its various agencies. For all intents and purposes, federal agents had become "soldiers" (using military training, tactics, techniques, equipment, language, dress, organization, and mindset) and they were escalating their behavior. Therefore, this bombing was also meant as a pre-emptive (or pro-active) strike against these forces and their command and control centers within the federal building. When an aggressor force continually launches attacks from a particular base of operation, it is sound military strategy to take the fight to the enemy." Source);
• Nidal Hasan (sought to have some of his patients prosecuted for war crimes based on statements they made during psychiatric sessions with him... his superiors rejected the requests. Source)
• Christopher Dorner (This is a necessary evil that I do not enjoy but must partake and complete for substantial change to occur within the LAPD and reclaim my name." Source)

http://ablogonpolitics.blogspot.com/2013/06/justice-brandeis_24.html

Let's look at the two within the past ten years:

- Dorner was being treated for mental health issues. Most likely he had been on SSRIs.
- Nidal Hasan was a psychiatrist who very likely had taken SSRIs. As a gross generalization, psychiatrists are more prone to having mental issues, and have access to the cookie jar.

Circumstantial evidence, but when the information is kept confidential and the media has a vested interest in not reporting on it, how much evidence do you expect to be available? And I am not saying that every person who has ever killed other people has had mental issues and been on SSRIs. In the past, it has usually been the mental issues alone. And I am not including wars or various other "fights".

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Perhaps because sane people not needing psychological help generally don't do such things?

What percentage of mentally disturbed get treated for it and are on SSRI's? 25%, 50%, 75%, 100%
And, what ever that is, shouldn't it be reflected statistically?

 

[Zippyjuan]

Millions are on SSRI's. If SSRIs cause people to become killers, we should have millions of killers in the country. Do we?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Millions are on SSRI's. If SSRIs cause people to become killers, we should have millions of killers in the country. Do we?

I ate a tablespoon of varnish once and survived it, varnish might be a good food staple?

Who knows Zippy, some people, most people are capable of handling a whole lot of stress, drugs, bad food. But, a few loose it, some can't handle the drugs, some get fat.

When they do tests, and find that 1 out of 100,000, or whatever, can have an adverse reaction to a drug, what does that mean?

 

[CPUd]

I ate a tablespoon of varnish once and survived it, varnish might be a good food staple?

Who knows Zippy, some people, most people are capable of handling a whole lot of stress, drugs, bad food. But, a few loose it, some can't handle the drugs, some get fat.

When they do tests, and find that 1 out of 100,000, or whatever, can have an adverse reaction to a drug, what does that mean?

^^ we now have proof that eating varnish does not cause people to become killers.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Millions are on SSRI's. If SSRIs cause people to become killers, we should have millions of killers in the country. Do we?

The majority on SSRIs are not paranoid schizophrenic.

You do know what a side effect is?

Millions of people eat peanuts. A few die from it.

Suicide is probably a bigger problem with SSRIs. You won't hear about that on CNN, unless it's the occasional report about how many veterans (probably on SSRIs) commit suicide.