Shooter at DC Navy yard

This guy had a "secret" clearance as an employee for a military contractor.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-had-secret-clearance-employer-says-010927653.html

So why does the FBI website have this page requesting information on this guy? If he's already got a secret clearance and a military ID shouldn't they already know all there is to know?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/aaron-alexis


Another good question from the comments on the Yahoo article.

How could he have qualified for a Secret Clearance with his back ground and General Discharge?
 
lets see how much confusion and alternate theories come out of this incident.
Feinstein is already pushing for gun control...again !
 
I didn't comment on this earlier and it is somewhat off topic to the discussion that this thread has turned but I think it should be pointed out:

The police responded in seven minutes. That time frame they seemed proud of as if to flaunt its speediness. To be fair now, that is fast. Especially fast. The thing is, how many people died in just seven minutes?

Seven minutes and they claim only the police should have guns? Twelve deaths (not including the gunman) and they want you to wait for them? Is there any doubt a person could kill you and your entire family in that time frame before the police arrived? Keep in mind the seven minutes is regarded as fast, and in my experience seven minutes is incredible. You'll be lucky if they ever show up. (in certain areas) Another thing to keep in mind, they aren't required to protect you. That is, they aren't liable for negligence in failing to protect you. Your safety is your own.

The hysteria of banning guns is on once again. If you have a twitter or facebook convey my message. Reword it as you see fit or direct quotes is no problem. People need to understand that the police aren't able to protect them when it matters. It is their duty. A God damn shame no one had a gun here. Seems a recurring theme. (Gun Free Zones)
 
This guy had a "secret" clearance as an employee for a military contractor.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-had-secret-clearance-employer-says-010927653.html

So why does the FBI website have this page requesting information on this guy? If he's already got a secret clearance and a military ID shouldn't they already know all there is to know?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/aaron-alexis

They say that a clearance is a very expensive thing to process. Someone certainly got paid to "clear" this guy.
 
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Judging by what happened to associates of the Tsaernaev's, anybody that contacts the FBI with information on this guy is an IDIOT.

May as well put up a poster that says "If you know anything that could screw with our official story, please call us with your name and address so we can dispatch some rouge agents to put a bullet in your head. Thanks in advance!"
 
This guy had a "secret" clearance as an employee for a military contractor.

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/suspected-u-shooter-had-secret-clearance-employer-says-010927653.html

So why does the FBI website have this page requesting information on this guy? If he's already got a secret clearance and a military ID shouldn't they already know all there is to know?

http://www.fbi.gov/wanted/seeking-info/aaron-alexis

I had a "secret" clearance as a Dept of the Army employee. There wasn't much paperwork. It's not a high level clearance. Of course, that's been 25 years ago, but unless clearance levels have drastically changed, they don't knock on doors and spend a ton of man hours on that level clearance. In the age of the internet, there's not much excuse for them missing things that I found on the internet in two minutes yesterday, but still, they wouldn't know "all there is to know".
 
http://georgia.arrests.org/Arrests/Aaron_Alexis_6890116/

I want to know what he was doing in Georgia in 2008. He had a disorderly conduct there. Maybe just out partying. I'm guessing this was his first conviction since his mugshot was removed and he probably had the record taken down himself thru expungement process. But that is definitely his record, all info matches including B/D.
 
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-mobile-home-fire-northeast-ohio-kills-children-20261523

Did you even look at the URL? The URL is for a different news story. Guess when that news story took place? On Sunday. Clearly a Content Management System error.

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/police-ohio-mobile-home-fire-kills-man-kids-20261644


Yeah I looked at the story and it was the same as what Hollywood posted above--it still is for me, today, when I click on the link. Still has Sunday the 15th with a current Tuesday morning video--ABC America This Morning.

Police, FBI: Shooter Reported in Military Building at Washington Navy Yard; at Least 1 Victim

WASHINGTON September 15, 2013 (AP)

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/p...ldren-20261523

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ETA:
My apologies...I just looked at the url. I am not computer savvy, I just learned how to do a screen shot yesterday. :o
 
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Judging by what happened to associates of the Tsaernaev's, anybody that contacts the FBI with information on this guy is an IDIOT.

May as well put up a poster that says "If you know anything that could screw with our official story, please call us with your name and address so we can dispatch some rouge agents to put a bullet in your head. Thanks in advance!"

I was thinking this same exact thing. There is no way I would trust the government especially after something like this occurs. This seems like more justification for their spy network to be expanded. The whole thing plays right into their agenda of get the guns and expand their surveillance powers. They don't need to fake this type of situation as all they have to do is keep squeezing and the weakest links will play right into their hands. Then they can come up with what they believe is a plausible explanation for them to expand their powers.
 
I was thinking this same exact thing. There is no way I would trust the government especially after something like this occurs. This seems like more justification for their spy network to be expanded. The whole thing plays right into their agenda of get the guns and expand their surveillance powers. They don't need to fake this type of situation as all they have to do is keep squeezing and the weakest links will play right into their hands. Then they can come up with what they believe is a plausible explanation for them to expand their powers.

Indeed. The enemy is within, no doubt.
 
I had a "secret" clearance as a Dept of the Army employee. There wasn't much paperwork. It's not a high level clearance. Of course, that's been 25 years ago, but unless clearance levels have drastically changed, they don't knock on doors and spend a ton of man hours on that level clearance. In the age of the internet, there's not much excuse for them missing things that I found on the internet in two minutes yesterday, but still, they wouldn't know "all there is to know".

Then either they're not nearly as effective as they'd have us believe, or they let this guy slip through the cracks on purpose.
 
I don't think the timestamp stuff is that weird. I saw the DU stuff searching Aaron Alexis like a lot of you guys did but if you look at the thread it was the OP wasn't that old.
 
(CNN) -- It has been called the most popular rifle in America, and it briefly returned to the spotlight after Monday's shooting at the Navy Yard: the AR-15.

A U.S. law enforcement official said Monday that gunman Aaron Alexis unleashed a barrage of bullets using an AR-15, a rifle and a semi-automatic handgun. Authorities believed the AR-15 was used for most of the shooting, the official said. The news prompted Sen. Dianne Feinstein, one of the strongest proponents of a ban on assault weapons like the AR-15, to issue a statement the same day asking, "When will enough be enough?"

However, federal law enforcement sources told CNN Tuesday that authorities have recovered three weapons from the scene of the mass shooting, including one -- a shotgun -- that investigators believe Alexis brought in to the compound. The other two weapons, which sources say were handguns, may have been taken from guards at the Navy complex.

cont.
http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/17/us/ar-15-gun-debate/?hpt=hp_t1
 
I will say, something about the story is sitting odd with me too tho I don't know what. I just compare the reaction to other mass shootings to this one and there doesn't seem to be the same reaction. I try to stay away from cable news when stories like this break but I wonder if it is as simple as the shooter not fitting their angry white male narrative?

and lol @ there being no AR15 now, who wants to bet they'll revise it back to AR15?
 
Then either they're not nearly as effective as they'd have us believe, or they let this guy slip through the cracks on purpose.

Has the government ever been effective/efficient? There is a reason for the saying, "close enough for government work".
 
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