Roy Moore Loses Senate To Dems: Trump Train De-Railed?

[asurfaholic]

I don’t get the significance of that anon post. He had a 50/50 chance of being right so his prediction holds no value. And all this sealed indictments stuff is nonsense. Nobody has any verifiable information to back it up, so in my mind it’s just internet gibberish.

I don’t see trump as one to burn the swamp down, not even for one second. He is the swamp. His morals are confusing and his actions and tweets put on display just how unguided and unwise he is. Show me a godly man in the White House, and I’ll start to have hope. Until then all we have are more of the same lying politicians. Trump is the king of the lying politicians. What has he done that I should hold him in greater regards to any of the other turd sandwiches we’ve had for president?

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don’t get the significance of that anon post. He had a 50/50 chance of being right so his prediction holds no value. And all this sealed indictments stuff is nonsense. Nobody has any verifiable information to back it up, so in my mind it’s just internet gibberish.

I don’t see trump as one to burn the swamp down, not even for one second. He is the swamp. His morals are confusing and his actions and tweets put on display just how unguided and unwise he is. Show me a godly man in the White House, and I’ll start to have hope. Until then all we have are more of the same lying politicians. Trump is the king of the lying politicians. What has he done that I should hold him in greater regards to any of the other turd sandwiches we’ve had for president?

The one reason to be open to the possibility that Trump may do some good is his choice of Gorsuch and the other judicial picks he has made.

Because of that I am taking a "wait and see" approach to some of these "draining the swamp" theories.

 

[Thaddaeus]

May be our first Democratic senator since they were in Klan robes..

(Well, no. we had Heflin in the eighties. It's always fun to make the Demos remember they were the rednecks and Kluckers once, though.)

 

[Zippyjuan]

The one reason to be open to the possibility that Trump may do some good is his choice of Gorsuch and the other judicial picks he has made.

Because of that I am taking a "wait and see" approach to some of these "draining the swamp" theories.

Judges like these?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517725-Two-Trump-judge-nominees-out-after-criticism

 

[Swordsmyth]

Judges like these?

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?517725-Two-Trump-judge-nominees-out-after-criticism

Yup, and even some better than those.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Yup, and even some better than those.

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/re...-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

 

[Swordsmyth]

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/re...-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

Of course the communists hate them.

 

[fedupinmo]

It isn't hard to beat being the worst rated judges. Mateer was the first judge since 2006 to be given a "not qualified" rating by the American Bar Association. https://www.salon.com/2017/11/10/re...-judicial-nominee-who-has-never-tried-a-case/

You trust the bar association? It's full of fookin' lawyers...

 

[Swordsmyth]

Doug Jones’ victory in Tuesday’s special Senate election in Alabama may change Justice Anthony Kennedy’s calculus as he mulls retirement.
The race’s shock result has imperiled the Republican Senate majority ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, and with it the integrity of the judicial confirmation process, which appears nonfunctional under divided government.
Though the justice has recently told prospective clerks that he is considering retirement, the prospect of his departure seemed remote. In a political environment as volatile as this, his power as the Court’s swing vote is at its maximum. It seems counter intuitive that he would retire as his influence reaches its apex. What’s more, Kennedy has a high opinion of the Court’s capacity to bear moral clarity for a restless nation, making his continued service a matter of duty.
However true this may be, the justice is 81 and he is, after all, a Republican. Given his age and political inclinations, it is reasonable to assume he would like to retire and would prefer to do so under a Republican president. Jones’ stunning victory Tuesday betrayed the vulnerability of the GOP’s Senate majority, and the very real possibility that Democrats will seize control of the upper chamber in November 2018.

More at: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/d...caller.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=2163597


If the recount doesn't change things we still might get some good out of this fiasco, trading Kennedy for another Gorsuch would be well worth having Jones for 2 years.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Doug Jones’ victory in Tuesday’s special Senate election in Alabama may change Justice Anthony Kennedy’s calculus as he mulls retirement.
The race’s shock result has imperiled the Republican Senate majority ahead of the 2018 midterm elections, and with it the integrity of the judicial confirmation process, which appears nonfunctional under divided government.
Though the justice has recently told prospective clerks that he is considering retirement, the prospect of his departure seemed remote. In a political environment as volatile as this, his power as the Court’s swing vote is at its maximum. It seems counter intuitive that he would retire as his influence reaches its apex. What’s more, Kennedy has a high opinion of the Court’s capacity to bear moral clarity for a restless nation, making his continued service a matter of duty.
However true this may be, the justice is 81 and he is, after all, a Republican. Given his age and political inclinations, it is reasonable to assume he would like to retire and would prefer to do so under a Republican president. Jones’ stunning victory Tuesday betrayed the vulnerability of the GOP’s Senate majority, and the very real possibility that Democrats will seize control of the upper chamber in November 2018.

More at: http://dailycaller.com/2017/12/13/d...caller.com&utm_term=68731&utm_content=2163597


If the recount doesn't change things we still might get some good out of this fiasco, trading Kennedy for another Gorsuch would be well worth having Jones for 2 years.

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

 

[Swordsmyth]

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

I know, but the hype going around is that they may do that or better, I don't buy it but if Kennedy does we may be rid of the turncoat sooner rather than later.

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS but I want someone younger.

 

[Zippyjuan]

I know, but the hype going around is that they may do that or better, I don't buy it but if Kennedy does we may be rid of the turncoat sooner rather than later.

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS but I want someone younger.

Moore's sexual harassment charges would probably rule out him being approved- even among Republicans- should Trump decide to nominate him. And even that is unlikely. Trump wants to distance himself from backing a loser.

 

[oyarde]

There are 34 seats up for re-election in 2018. 24 of those are currently Democratic and eight Republican (two are independent). To take control, the Democrats need to win all the seats they currently have and pick up four more- meaning they need to win 28 out of 34 battles.

I do not expect the numbers to change at all .

 

[Zippyjuan]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-and-bannon-urge-roy-moore-to-concede/index.html

Trump and Steve Bannon urge Roy Moore to concede


Both President Donald Trump and his former chief political strategist Steve Bannon are urging Roy Moore to concede, as the defiant Republican Senate candidate refuses to admit defeat to Democrat Doug Jones.

Moore lost Alabama's Tuesday special Senate election by more than 20,000 votes.

"I think he should," Trump told reporters on the South Lawn of the White House on Friday morning. "He tried. I want to support, always, I want to support the person running. We need the seat. We would like to have the seat."

Bannon, the former White House chief strategist, was one of Moore's longest and most fervent supporters. He visited the state three times to campaign on his behalf, including a rally the night before the election. He told the campaign that Moore needs to concede, a source familiar with the conversation tells CNN.

 

[Swordsmyth]

http://www.cnn.com/2017/12/15/politics/trump-and-bannon-urge-roy-moore-to-concede/index.html

Who cares? Moore shouldn't concede until the recount is completed.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Who cares? Moore shouldn't concede until the recount is completed.

What recount? There isn't one. There is only a mandatory recount if the candidates are within half a percent. Moore lost by 1.5%. Moore can still have one if he is personally willing to pay for it though. What they are waiting on is the certification of the votes but that rarely changes the vote tallies by much and Moore lost by over 20,000 votes.

 

[Swordsmyth]

What recount? There isn't one. There is only a mandatory recount if the candidates are within half a percent. Moore lost by 1.5%. Moore can still have one if he is personally willing to pay for it though. What they are waiting on is the certification of the votes but that rarely changes the vote tallies by much and Moore lost by over 20,000 votes.

Either recount.

 

[Sonny Tufts]

I'd suggest Moore for SCOTUS

Riiiight... nominate someone who willfully disobeys court orders and urges state officials to ignore a binding Supreme Court decision. Even the Senate Republicans aren't crazy enough to go for that.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Riiiight... nominate someone who willfully disobeys court orders and urges state officials to ignore a binding Supreme Court decision. Even the Senate Republicans aren't crazy enough to go for that.

Crazy is what we need if we are to restore liberty to the Republic.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Crazy is what we need if we are to restore liberty to the Republic.

Or crazy might destroy liberty. You never know what you might get from crazy.