Whitney Webb EXPOSES Kamala, Trump, Israel And More! (Interview)

[jmdrake]

OK, we're done. You just called me Satan. Feel free to reach out via PM to make amends but we're done exchanging posts. Off to ignore-land you go, along with devil21...

Mark 8:33 But when Jesus turned and looked at his disciples, he rebuked Peter. “Get behind me, Satan!” he said. “You do not have in mind the concerns of God, but merely human concerns.”

 

[acptulsa]

"Knowing every detail that will ever occur" is a strawman/red-herring --

Distracting people from what? Mr. Drake and I had a side conversation, and you tried to debunk it, reflexively and ineffectively. How does that create either a straw man argument or a distraction?

...if God wants to know everything that will ever occur, he knows it, because he's all powerful.

Right, because He can make it happen. I believe in free will. Therefore, I believe He doesn't want to. I didn't know you considered it a sin to speculate about what He does want instead.

<snipped a bunch of baseless opinions that contradict the Bible>

...or which you don't understand, or don't like or whatever -- we'll never know because you just dismiss it all as facts that might confuse someone who has made up his mind.

OK, call and raise, then: you can't be a "brother's keeper" by lying. So, if you want to avoid lying, go back to what was written and actually read it, alongside Rev. 12:10 which I will just assume you're not familiar with. What jmdrake wrote is indeed calling me Satan and that's not up to you.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Don't see it. Nowhere in that does it say that only the devil ever deceives anyone or bears false witness. Nowhere. It calls the devil the accuser of our brethren, not the only accuser.

Hell, if every accuser is the devil, all three of us are the devil, because we've all done it. You've done it to both of us this very morning.

You really need to settle down enough to make sense. Don't mind if you don't. Just saying you aren't.

 

[jmdrake]

Distracting people from what? Mr. Drake and I had a side conversation, and you tried to debunk it, reflexively and ineffectively. How does that create either a straw man argument or a distraction?



Right, because He can make it happen. I believe in free will. Therefore, I believe He doesn't want to. I didn't know you considered it a sin to speculate about what He does want instead.



...or which you don't understand, or don't like or whatever -- we'll never know because you just dismiss it all as facts that might confuse someone who has made up his mind.





Don't see it. Nowhere in that does it say that only the devil ever deceives anyone or bears false witness. Nowhere. It calls the devil the accuser of our brethren, not the only accuser.

Hell, if every accuser is the devil, all three of us are the devil, because we've all done it. You've done it to both of us this very morning.

You really need to settle down enough to make sense. Don't mind if you don't. Just saying you aren't.

ClaytonB is funny. He makes an accusation, calling me "not rational" when it comes to Trump which is exactly the same as saying someone has TDS, then he rails about not being a "Trumper" even though I didn't initially call him one, and then get's mad that I call him an "accuser of the brethen" which that is exactly what he did. Jesus called Peter "Satan" because that's how Peter was acting at the moment. Clayton started this entire argument because he can't accept the idea that Trump might be morally responsible for the people he allowed to give him bad advice on the economy for their own selfish gains and/or people he put in positions of power who actually did evil things. He calls calling that out "guilt by association" and prefers to look at Trump through the lens of "God using Trump" but won't use that same lens for other politicians who do things that he doesn't like because "they blasphemed Gog" by being pro abortion but he's going to overlook Trump actually saying he can make up for his own sins as opposed to asking God for forgiveness. And all of this is justified because the bumpfire stock ban, which wasn't even brought up by anybody but him, really isn't that big of a deal and Trump didn't start any new wars (yeah Trump! Seriously!), and Trump supposedly starved the MIC by giving it more money and Trump, along with Dr. Fauci, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, said they wouldn't mandate vaccines back in October 2020 when not a single vaccine was available. All the while he ignores the fact that the Clintons asked Trump to run for president as a Republican in the first place. That's the entire subthread re-cap.

 

[acptulsa]

Clayton started this entire argument because he can't accept the idea that Trump might be morally responsible for the people he allowed to give him bad advice on the economy for their own selfish gains and/or people he put in positions of power who actually did evil things.

But if Trump is morally responsible for that, or even if he is simply too dumb to see the blatantly obvious and put the puzzle together, for that matter, then it doesn't matter if he has learned anything from his mistakes or not. He's not going to be helpful in cleaning up this mess. And we're fresh out of other options.

So it's past fixing. Sounds like a good source of cognitive dissonance to me; who wants that to be the case? Time to buckle up for the Tribulations and remember not to blame God for the devil's work, because together we could have stopped the bastard if fewer people had faith in Trump to do it for us.

C'est la guerre. Hope when the day comes we meet in the "in" crowd.

Now remember, when he says this is a Black Pill, I'm counting on you to play the racism card! Who's discriminating against Black Pills? Not me! Every red pill is a source of depression for people who really love the blue pill.

 

[ClaytonB]

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Off to ignore-land. Feel free to PM to apologize, correct and edit your offending posts. Otherwise, sayonara.

 

[acptulsa]

Distracting people from what? Mr. Drake and I had a side conversation, and you tried to debunk it, reflexively and ineffectively. How does that create either a straw man argument or a distraction?



Right, because He can make it happen. I believe in free will. Therefore, I believe He doesn't want to. I didn't know you considered it a sin to speculate about what He does want instead.



...or which you don't understand, or don't like or whatever -- we'll never know because you just dismiss it all as facts that might confuse someone who has made up his mind.





Don't see it. Nowhere in that does it say that only the devil ever deceives anyone or bears false witness. Nowhere. It calls the devil the accuser of our brethren, not the only accuser.

Hell, if every accuser is the devil, all three of us are the devil, because we've all done it. You've done it to both of us this very morning.

You really need to settle down enough to make sense. Don't mind if you don't. Just saying you aren't.

Off to ignore-land. Feel free to PM to apologize, correct and edit your offending posts. Otherwise, sayonara.

That's what we get for confusing with facts someone who has made up his mind.

 

[Swordsmyth]

It's astounding how upside-down and backwards you are on this. I'm in your position... I only say "I support Trump", nothing more... I can give no more vote-of-confidence to him than that. But on that basis, I am accused of being some kind of rabid Trump-believer who is "placing faith" in a "mere man" and viewing him as some kind of "messiah" and so on. All false, you cannot produce even one shred of evidence from my copious and lengthy posting-history to back up any of that BS. It's merely some kind of bizarre anti-Trump fanaticism that you have that causes you to speak that way. When making specific claims about a specific poster, try to limit yourself to what you can actually back up from quoting their posts. That will help you stay on track a lot. I've hand-waved too much in the past and it never paid off. Stick to the cold, hard facts. What is not written is often more important than what is written. Good luck combing through my post history to find anything of the nature, "I believe in Trump". I don't believe in Trump. I merely support him for 47. Nothing more than that. And the primary reason for my support, is that I hope he will follow through on what he claimed to be doing in 45 (draining the Swamp)... but for reals this time. Maybe my hope is misplaced. Maybe Trump is just the greatest actor that ever lived, and he is going to betray us all. That's a logical possibility. But I hope he doesn't. That's nothing to do with "believing in" anybody and the continued assertion to that effect is just petty, online character-assassination.

They are the ones operating on a nigh religious belief, a belief that Trump is a demon.
Because they are operate that way they can only conceive of others operating that way, so they assume that we must believe in Trump as if he was a god.

 

[PAF]

They are the ones operating on a nigh religious belief, a belief that Trump is a demon.

I don't think he's a demon, anymore than he was sent by God.

Trump is an opportunist plain and simple, who wants to nationalize everything so that his fellow cronies can capitalize off of the American tax payer. He also wants to give "free" diplomas to all, by taxing, fining and suing Private Donors. Go figure.

 

[Snowball]

None of what happened or will happen is even remotely surprising to those of us who remember Donald Trump from the 70s and 80s
and even the 90s. What DOES surprise us is that so MANY conservatives thought and think he was/is someone that he never was.

Still, if I had to choose between him and Kamala Harris, he's my pick.

It is what it is.

 

[Swordsmyth]

I don't think he's a demon, anymore than he was sent by God.

Trump is an opportunist plain and simple, who wants to nationalize everything so that his fellow cronies can capitalize off of the American tax payer. He also wants to give "free" diplomas to all, by taxing, fining and suing Private Donors. Go figure.

Nice dogma.
But its unconvincing.

 

[acptulsa]

Nice dogma.
But its unconvincing.

The Master of Unconvincing speaketh.

 

[PAF]

Nice dogma.
But its unconvincing.

You don't like Mises.org, so what credibility do you have?

 

[Swordsmyth]

You don't like Mises.org, so what credibility do you have?

More faith in infallible religious leaders being demonstrated.

 

[PAF]

More faith in infallible religious leaders being demonstrated.

Faith in politicians/government is the new black, not that it ever went away.

 

[ClaytonB]

They are the ones operating on a nigh religious belief, a belief that Trump is a demon.
Because they are operate that way they can only conceive of others operating that way, so they assume that we must believe in Trump as if he was a god.

Well, when someone escalates from "I think you shouldn't vote for Trump" to "You are Satan", that's the most obvious red-flag ever. And in case anyone thinks they were mis-speaking or didn't actually mean that, go back and review the thread, they doubled down on it, going so far as to essentially claim they are themselves Jesus Christ!

So yeah, that's not within a trillion miles of normal on any reasonable definition of "normal", and the fact that this topic raises that kind of escalation just goes to show that we're not seeing the whole picture. Something else is going on, unseen. I don't need to speculate about what that is, I'll let RPFers work that out for themselves from the evidence...

 

[jmdrake]

They are the ones operating on a nigh religious belief, a belief that Trump is a demon.
Because they are operate that way they can only conceive of others operating that way, so they assume that we must believe in Trump as if he was a god.

LOL. Nice lie. I don't think he's a demon. I do think there are demons controlling people like Larry Fink (CEO of Blackrock) and Trump was all too willing to go along with Larry Fink's COVID rescue plan that Blackrock wrote before the WHO even declared COVID an emergency. That's the point of this thread. But you and people like [MENTION=35009]ClaytonB[/MENTION] and so determined to defend Trump and any cost that you can't look at the demon inside the man behind the curtain. I have told [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] too many times to count that I don't think Trump is "evil" but I think he's an empty suit with a big ego that anybody, by correctly stroking that ego, get to do anything. Look at Trump this week saying once again "Take the guns first and THEN have due process." Does Trump really believe that? God I hope not! But he thinks right now pushing "law and order" will win him votes even if he has to trample on the Bill Of Rights to do so. Sometimes Trump actually does things I like, like the First Step Act (ccriminal justice reform) or permanent funding for HBCU, or the Plaintimum Plan which is the closest I've seen to a reparations proposal, as flawed as it was. So why would I think he's a demon?

 

[jmdrake]

Well, when someone escalates from "I think you shouldn't vote for Trump" to "You are Satan", that's the most obvious red-flag ever..

When someone attempts to derail a thread that's about the evil people who have clearly influenced both Trump and Kamala Harris by making false allegations that said person is "irrational" whenver Trump is mentioned and then tries to walk it back by saying "I'm not saying you have Trump Derangement Syndrome", that person is making a false allegation against the brethren. Now it's funny that you're appealing to [MENTION=65299]Swordsmyth[/MENTION] because, unlike you, he doesn't try to say someone has TDS and then hide his hand. You are the one who did the escalation.

 

[acptulsa]

Well, when someone escalates from "I think you shouldn't vote for Trump" to "You are Satan", that's the most obvious red-flag ever.

No. When someone tells someone else what they're being misleading and they start whipping out asinine victim cards like, "You just called me Satan!!" that's the most obvious red flag ever.

And very liberal-like behavior.

 

[jmdrake]

None of what happened or will happen is even remotely surprising to those of us who remember Donald Trump from the 70s and 80s
and even the 90s. What DOES surprise us is that so MANY conservatives thought and think he was/is someone that he never was.

Still, if I had to choose between him and Kamala Harris, he's my pick.

It is what it is.

Yes. You get it. [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] gets it. [MENTION=40029]PAF[/MENTION] gets it. I get it. Whitney Webb gets it. At the end of the OP video she says "If you feel like you still need to vote for the lesser of two evils go ahead." I've got no problem with anyone who feels the need to "hold their nose and vote for Trump." It's the mental gymnatics people go through to try to pretend a pig with lipstick isn't a pig. The problem is there's zero accountability with that. As much as people hate on BlackLivesMatter, at least they had the nerve to call Hillary Clinton out in 2016 for her "super predators" comment and call the DNC out for it's coronation of Kamala Harris. Frankly I'm not as suprised at Trump going along with Blackrock as I am by the fact that right out in the open Blackrock can talk about puting forward the COVID 19 rescue plan prior to COVID being declared an emergency. Once upon a time it at least SEEMED that the PTB tried to cover up their crimes. Now it seems like they don't care. Oh well.

 

[acptulsa]

I've got no problem with anyone who feels the need to "hold their nose and vote for Trump." It's the mental gymnatics people go through to try to pretend a pig with lipstick isn't a pig. The problem is there's zero accountability with that.

Well, begging your pardon, but I don't think that's the real problem. The real problem is, someone who can do those mental gymnastics, someone who has faith (in spite of four years of evidence to the contrary) that he'll actually fix something, can and will do the necessary mental gymnastics right up to, "It's worth giving up the Constitution just to get rid of that cackling hyena."