Ron Paul will not endorse Gary Johnson

[sailingaway]

He'll endorse no one but this just further proves my assertion there's 0 chance he runs 3rd party.

He wants us to stay in the GOP and drive these people back...

You could well be right, but Benton said this months ago as well.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

He'll endorse no one but this just further proves my assertion there's 0 chance he runs 3rd party.

He wants us to stay in the GOP and drive these people back...

You are correct sir.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Wouldn't it be just plain weird to endorse someone that was about to step down and let you take their slot?

GJ doesn't have any events scheduled today... just sayin'...

-t

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

GJ doesn't have any events scheduled today... just sayin'...

He's in my development cutting lawns so he can continue his campaign for a few more days. I have to say he's not much of a politician but he is pretty damn good with a weed whacker.

 

[Sematary]

Maybe he is going to run himself so endorsing anyone else would be kind of ridiculous

 

[FreedomFighter1776]

I'm rolling with Johnson.

I knew from "go" that Paul would never endorse Johnson - the pro-choice stance alone I think is enough for Paul to never give Johnson the nod. *Ron* Paul does not compromise.

I will actively campaign against Obama and Romney. After the debacle in Tampa it is obvious that they do not want us in the GOP tent - we may be able to change that but in the meantime I need to have someone who is close to Paul to convince people for whom to vote. I don't think I'll have much success getting people to "not vote for either" without a candidate for whom to vote.

My math:
Estimated % of the time I agree with the candidate
90% - Ron Paul
80% - Gary Johnson/Rand Paul
10% - Romney
5% - Omaba

If we are intent on firing a shot across the bow of the GOP and two party system, writing in Ron Paul where it is counted might work. Writing in Ron Paul where it is not counted will not. Voting for Gary Johnson in either place will work.

 

[specsaregood]

Ok, this just sealed the deal for me. I'm not voting for Johnson.

Yup. That makes 2 LP candidates in a row that have dissed Paul. And 2 CP candidates in a row that have praised him highly.
This was CP candidate Goode's response to getting our support:

In the meantime, millions of Ron Paul supporters are up for grabs come November. What will you do to reach out to them?

Goode: Ron Paul has been a friend from my first days in Congress. I learned a lot as a member of his Liberty Caucus in the House. I understand his interests in his son’s viability as a presidential candidate, but I’m always an optimist: I’d welcome Ron’s support. However, you’re right Peter—we should plan to face reality and capture the Ron Paul constituency on our own. Just look at the issues Ron has run on: audit the Fed, the gold standard, and a non-interventionist foreign policy. That’s our platform! Campaigning on the issues that matter most to those who believe in the Constitution will resonate with Ron Paul supporters. I think we might just pay a visit to Tampa during the Republican Party convention and talk with some of Ron Paul’s best organizers and grass roots leaders. When the Republicans crown Mitt Romney, we’ll be right there recruiting constitutionalists to our banner.

 

[qh4dotcom]

So Ron Paul was willing to endorse the Libertarian nominee Bob Barr back in 2008 but not willing to endorse the current Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson?

Don't forget he also endorsed Rep Lamar Smith who authored SOPA, voted for bailouts, wars, NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

He's in my development cutting lawns so he can continue his campaign for a few more days. I have to say he's not much of a politician but he is pretty damn good with a weed whacker.

lol!

Maybe he is going to run himself so endorsing anyone else would be kind of ridiculous

I know it's come up before, but did anyone figure out where he could get on the ballot still and if that would be enough places to make it mathematically possible to get into the debates? (ie: enough electoral votes to win).

Likewise did anyone figure out in which states writing him in would count?

-t

 

[specsaregood]

So Ron Paul was willing to endorse the Libertarian nominee Bob Barr back in 2008 but not willing to endorse the current Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson?

Dr. Paul endorsed Chuck Baldwin in 2008, the CP nominee.

 

[Athan]

I think Ron Paul has moved on. Above all parties, above the political process. It's all about education and waking up more people. Probably a good idea where we should focus our energy.

He's in "Messiah Mode".

 

[The Free Hornet]

Did anyone really expect Ron to endorse Johnson? Johnson is not pro life.

YES HE IS PRO LIFE!

What he is not is pro-taking-your-tax-dollars-at-gunpoint-to-enforce-private-morality-only-made-possible-by-a-government-big-enough-to-spy-on-a-uterus*.


* You could argue that a third trimester ban contradicts this. I can argue that a third-trimester baby bump is sufficient evidence of an individual trying to break free (and doesn't require as much spywork).

 

[Carlybee]

He's in my development cutting lawns so he can continue his campaign for a few more days. I have to say he's not much of a politician but he is pretty damn good with a weed whacker.

Okay that was funny

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

Yup. That makes 2 LP candidates in a row that have dissed Paul. And 2 CP candidates in a row that have praised him highly.
This was CP candidate Goode's response to getting our support:

How many states is the CP on the ballot in? and what's the situation with their Prez/VP candidates? Their bylaws/rules might be more flexible too. Though it's pretty clear that if one or both of the LP candidates stepped down, it would be no problem getting Paul in there.

-t

 

[sailingaway]

So Ron Paul was willing to endorse the Libertarian nominee Bob Barr back in 2008 but not willing to endorse the current Libertarian nominee Gary Johnson?

Don't forget he also endorsed Rep Lamar Smith who authored SOPA, voted for bailouts, wars, NDAA, Patriot Act, etc.

Ron didn't endorse Barr. He was endorsing a four part plan he expected BArr to show up to and sign on to and Barr showily didn't turn up after saying he'd be there, held an event immediately afterwards saying Ron's crowd should stay, and basically said he was owed Ron's endorsement.

Ron later endorsed Baldwin.

Ron endorsed Smith before NDAA, I believe, and it is weird, against his own long record, but as a 'over the other guy' vote. I'll have to look into that one because people bring it up all the time, but it doensn't mean he has to endorse every less than awesome candidate around. Likely he got something he thought very important for liberty out of it. I admit, I'm curious now. But I don't see why that means he should endorse Johnson. Looking at the campaign, I'm willing to believe it was simply staff error....

 

[The Dude]

I really hope Ron doesn't endorse the CP again. They're a bunch of hardcore anti-gay, drug and porn social-cons. Totally against the liberty message.

 

[specsaregood]

I really hope Ron doesn't endorse the CP again. They're a bunch of hardcore anti-gay, drug and porn social-cons. Totally against the liberty message.

Ok, well they are also anti-interventionist foreign policy, anti-fed, anti patriot act, anti-NDAA. Personally I care about those much more. Plus, the CP actually seems to want to earn our votes, the LP seems to think they just deserve are entitled to them. I don't have delusions of a 3rd party winning; but if I cast a vote for one its gonna be the CP.

 

[69360]

YES HE IS PRO LIFE!

What he is not is pro-taking-your-tax-dollars-at-gunpoint-to-enforce-private-morality-only-made-possible-by-a-government-big-enough-to-spy-on-a-uterus*.


* You could argue that a third trimester ban contradicts this. I can argue that a third-trimester baby bump is sufficient evidence of an individual trying to break free (and doesn't require as much spywork).

You're twisting and playing with words to get your desired result. Johnson supports legal abortion. I'm still voting for him despite being extremely pro life because the other choices suck so badly. Romney is only pro life when it's politically expedient to be anyway.

 

[thehungarian]

That to me implies that Ron will endorse Rmoney. Don't like the tone of the article at all.

If that happens the pain and grief Yoda felt when Alderaan was destroyed will be like a sunny day at the beach sipping margaritas compared to the horror, devastation and self-flagellation that will ensue on this forum.

 

[MelissaCato]

He'll endorse no one but this just further proves my assertion there's 0 chance he runs 3rd party. He wants us to stay in the GOP and drive these people back...

Or organize for a write-in vote for Ron Paul 2012. Then if we win Ron Paul stands alone going to the white house - then we drive them all out instead of driving them back. Ya Ya WOOT !!