Results from the Mounatin View rally.

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LibertyEagle said:
There is a big difference between believing that there is a coverup and believing that our government carried out the attack. A BIG difference.
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You don't think I understand this?! Do you think you are enlightening me or something?

LibertyEagle said:
Frankly, I fail to see your rationale from posting these polls.
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I'm asking for evidence on how the 911 issue hurts the campaign. The polls would suggest otherwise.

LibertyEagle said:
Dr. Paul has made it clear that he does not believe our government was involved in the attacks. Do you remember the whole conversation about bin Laden and blowback?
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Yes I do remember. What about it? Am I saying RP thinks otherwise?

LibertyEagle said:
Do you actually believe you are helping Dr. Paul by using his campaign as a tool to push your own personal agenda of 9-11 being carried out by our government? Well, do you?
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I am not doing that, so why are you asking me? Why don't you ask the people who are actually doing that instead of spending so much time on this forum discussing it? And in reply to whether it hurts the campaign, I would not think so based on polls. But if you feel differently, I'll be glad to look at your evidence.

LibertyEagle, you have over and over again put words in my mouth and I'm really getting sick of it. You turned a simple announcement of an RP appearance on The Alex Jones show into a multipage bullshit fest, accusing me of saying things I never said.

Here is the thread:
http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=4807&highlight=alex+jones
 
PatriotOne said:
Well then tell me why you insist on keeping the subject at maximum exposure? If you are not what I profess you to be then stop acting like one.
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Perhaps you should peruse the thread again, "One". I did not bring up the issue, nor should the person who accurately reported THE FACTS have been criticized for doing so. You seem to have a problem if anyone takes someone to task for attempting to piggyback their own personal agenda off of Dr. Paul's campaign. TOO BAD! Nor, will your bullying tactics of calling anyone who does so, all kinds of colorful names, like government shills or useful idiots, have the desired effect. I can guarantee you of that.

You seem to liken yourself to some kind of ultimate judge and jury, all wrapped into one. Perhaps you should see if there are any openings in Homeland Security. It might be a real "fit" for you.
 
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LibertyEagle said:
Perhaps you should peruse the thread again, "One". I did not bring up the issue, nor should the person who accurately reported THE FACTS have been criticized for doing so. You seem to have a problem if anyone takes someone to task for attempting to piggyback their own personal agenda off of Dr. Paul's campaign. TOO BAD! Nor, will your bullying tactics of calling anyone who does so, all kinds of colorful names, like government shills or useful idiots, have the desired effect. I can guarantee you of that.

You seem to liken yourself to some kind of ultimate judge and jury, all wrapped into one. Perhaps you should see if there are any openings in Homeland Security. It might be a real "fit" for you.
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Blah, blah, blah. You still haven't answered my question. It is obvious that someone who ends up showing up at the slightest opprotunity to bash a truther and perpetuate flame wars on the boards to cause discontent is either a useful idiot or a Gov shill. Perhaps you need a little time to reason that out. Take your time and let me know.

Over and out of here for a bit.
 
lock this thread

Lock this ruined thread? ... would the original poster please start a new thread with his same post and we can let this one fade. The original post was extremely positive and it would be nice to try this again minus the haters...
 
My final word on this thread. The 911 activists at the rally were not Ron Paul supporters, as I detailed earlier. You can expect activists at events as there are so many who feel strongly for a new investigation. You can spend all your time on this forum discussing your hate for these people, but that won't stop them. It is their right under the Constitutution to exercise their right to free speech at public events. I personally am not bothered by it as long as they are not disruptive. What is disruptive is the small group of members here who are always bringing it up. You are hurting the campaign in my opinion, by encouraging divisiveness amoung RP's supporters.

There was also a cross-dresser at the rally. Are you worried that people will think Ron Paul is one?
 
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I didn't notice the cross-dresser in the crowd. Did it happen to be Rudy Giuliani?
 
IS this election about Ron Paul or 9/11 truth? I get confused because every thread on here is about 9/11. I'm curious.... maybe Josh will indulge me statistically... how many times is Ron Paul mentioned and how many times is 9/11 mentioned... I'd love a word count on that just to show how much time is wasted and creative energy diverted because of one single issue out of hundreds our nation faces today.
How about the collapse of our economy? seems like a more important topic, with a more real present day threat than 9/11... but then again, talking about the economy won't be as divisive... so, let's keep talking about 9/11... that really gets us to our goal of getting ron paul elected.
And no i'm not trying to shut anybody up, i'm not 'hating'. i'm a truther too... but one who has ran for office twice and has some political experience. enough to know when and when not to.
 
WannaBfree said:
My final word on this thread. The 911 activists at the rally were not Ron Paul supporters, as I detailed earlier. You can expect activists at events as there are so many who feel strongly for a new investigation. You can spend all your time on this forum discussing your hate for these people, but that won't stop them. It is their right under the Constitutution to exercise their right to free speech at public events. I personally am not bothered by it as long as they are not disruptive. What is disruptive is the small group of members here who are always bringing it up. You are hurting the campaign in my opinion, by encouraging divisiveness amoung RP's supporters.

There was also a cross-dresser at the rally. Are you worried that people will think Ron Paul is one?
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NO. The guy who shouts out "911 was an inside job" in the freakin middle of Ron Paul's speech, so that any recording of the event will have that assclown's conspiracy agenda inserted, whether Paul wants it there or not, is the guy hurting the campaign.

Posting conspiracy crap on this forum is benign in comparison.

But seriously, if the truthers want to see Paul elected, go show up at Hillary's campaign events to push this shwag. They'll get their dumb message out just the same, and might actually do some good by helping Paul's campaign. What they're doing now reminds me of a 4 year-old child I used to know who figured out he could make his parents do anything he wanted by lying on the ground and screaming. He would do this everywhere. Just fall on the ground and start rolling around screaming like he was on fire. That's what truthers are doing when they force their agenda into Paul's campaign. Kicking and screaming and demanding attention like spoiled little babies.
 
SeanEdwards said:
NO. The guy who shouts out "911 was an inside job" in the freakin middle of Ron Paul's speech, so that any recording of the event will have that assclown's conspiracy agenda inserted, whether Paul wants it there or not, is the guy hurting the campaign.

Posting conspiracy crap on this forum is benign in comparison.

But seriously, if the truthers want to see Paul elected, go show up at Hillary's campaign events to push this shwag. They'll get their dumb message out just the same, and might actually do some good by helping Paul's campaign. What they're doing now reminds me of a 4 year-old child I used to know who figured out he could make his parents do anything he wanted by lying on the ground and screaming. He would do this everywhere. Just fall on the ground and start rolling around screaming like he was on fire. That's what truthers are doing when they force their agenda into Paul's campaign. Kicking and screaming and demanding attention like spoiled little babies.
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Here's another one that loves to show up at every opprotunity to keep the tension on the boards high. Loves to call the "truthers" names and flames the threads so that the fight continues and keep the subject in the spotlight. Divide and conquer!

So which is it Sean? Useful idiot or paid shill?
 
9/11 Truth

I am both a 9/11 Truth advocate AND Ron Paul supporter.
Many of my friends in the 9/11 Truth community are also Ron Paul supporters. Get used to us, we will help win Ron Paul an election. I myself don't mix the 9/11 Truth stuff with Ron Paul events, but I do mix Ron Paul in to my 9/11 Truth events.

Before anyone talks bad about the 9/11 Truth movement, please do your research and realize that they are for the most part on the Ron Paul side.
 
PatriotOne said:
Here's another one that loves to show up at every opprotunity to keep the tension on the boards high. Loves to call the "truthers" names and flames the threads so that the fight continues and keep the subject in the spotlight. Divide and conquer!

So which is it Sean? Useful idiot or paid shill?
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When I was standing in that rally at Mountain View, and the asshole truther started shouting his agenda IN THE MIDDLE OF RON PAUL'S SPEECH, I didn't say a damn thing. It's that guy's right to say whatever dumb stuff he likes. But it's also my right to express my belief that actions like that hurt Paul's campaign.

So who is hurting the campaign? The people who shout their radical agenda literally over the voice of the candidate at a public rally, or a guy like me who cries about the activity on an internet forum?

Shouting '911 was an inside job' over Ron Paul at a public rally is literally the equivalent of shouting 'Lynch Ni**ers!'. If some whacked out cult of rednecks were doing that at Ron Paul rallies, I'd be crying about them too. I don't think I'd find the argument of:

"Hey, there's a lot of white supremacists, why are you insulting them and trying to drive them away from Paul? Why are you so mean to them all the time? White supremacist beliefs are well justified, by this and that internet personality, and you're just a shill for the mainstream media for not acknowledging that truth!"

very convincing either.
 
SeanEdwards said:
When I was standing in that rally at Mountain View, and the asshole truther started shouting his agenda IN THE MIDDLE OF RON PAUL'S SPEECH, I didn't say a damn thing. It's that guy's right to say whatever dumb stuff he likes. But it's also my right to express my belief that actions like that hurt Paul's campaign.

So who is hurting the campaign? The people who shout their radical agenda literally over the voice of the candidate at a public rally, or a guy like me who cries about the activity on an internet forum?

Shouting '911 was an inside job' over Ron Paul at a public rally is literally the equivalent of shouting 'Lynch Ni**ers!'. If some whacked out cult of rednecks were doing that at Ron Paul rallies, I'd be crying about them too. I don't think I'd find the argument of:

"Hey, there's a lot of white supremacists, why are you insulting them and trying to drive them away from Paul? Why are you so mean to them all the time? White supremacist beliefs are well justified, by this and that internet personality, and you're just a shill for the mainstream media for not acknowledging that truth!"

very convincing either.
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Wait, so that actually happened? Stuff like that makes my blood boil :mad:

I have no idea why *some* 9/11 Truthers think that Paul is supporting their cause. If you support Paul and you're a Truther, cool. But it sould be because you support his beliefs. I really hope Dr. Paul officially distances himself from that movement
 
SeanEdwards said:
Shouting '911 was an inside job' over Ron Paul at a public rally is literally the equivalent of shouting 'Lynch Ni**ers!'. If some whacked out cult of rednecks were doing that at Ron Paul rallies, I'd be crying about them too. I don't think I'd find the argument of:

"Hey, there's a lot of white supremacists, why are you insulting them and trying to drive them away from Paul? Why are you so mean to them all the time? White supremacist beliefs are well justified, by this and that internet personality, and you're just a shill for the mainstream media for not acknowledging that truth!"

very convincing either.
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LOL....comparing a truther to someone yelling THAT? Errr....your sounding quite whacked out there yourself :eek: Intentionally flaming again? Paid shill or useful idiot?
 
DeadheadForPaul said:
Wait, so that actually happened? Stuff like that makes my blood boil :mad:

I have no idea why *some* 9/11 Truthers think that Paul is supporting their cause. If you support Paul and you're a Truther, cool. But it sould be because you support his beliefs. I really hope Dr. Paul officially distances himself from that movement
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Paid shill or useful idiot? Why do you continue to fan the flames and bring more attention to a subject that you know divides the boards? Why?
 
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