Results from the Mounatin View rally.

[WannaBfree]

Well, I'm not as perfect as Dr. Paul, so I personally would have no problem asking them to chill, because their actions are infringing on my possibility of having Ron Paul as President.

You always say it hurts Ron Paul's chances but never present any evidence to support your view. How would it hurt it if the majority of Americans believe the following?:

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/14340.content.html

http://edition.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/results/23968.exclude.html

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

.

 

[Noodles]

Yeah, we only want perfect people at our rallies. No degenerates, no social lepers, no conspiracy theorists, no stoners, no people dressed funny. No individuals.

 

[LibertyEagle]

No one said that, Noodles.

 

[Noodles]

You're right LibertyE.

I personally feel we're getting too much sugar for a dime with this issue. At the end of the day, I believe our diversity will carry us.

 

[ecliptic]

groupthink

Yeah, we only want perfect people at our rallies. No degenerates, no social lepers, no conspiracy theorists, no stoners, no people dressed funny. No individuals.

Yeah - we could have an entry gate and check all names and serial ( oops I mean Social Security ) numbers, pass-through metal detectors, check fingerprints and scan retinas, then check that information with a national database of people who dare to think different than the almighty "anti-truthers" and their all-knowing pre-eminence. They obviously know what's best for Ron Paul! Then we could cross-check those people with other databases until we've narrowed down to the 1 or 2 percent who are acceptably "normal". Those people are the only ones who are worthy of supporting Dr. Ron Paul's message of individual freedom, right?

 

[WannaBfree]

No one said that, Noodles.

you better read this thread again.

 

[quickmike]

What is sad is that some people, who claim to support Ron Paul, can't manage to attend an event and just sit their butts down and listen, but instead attempt to use this event to further their OWN cause, regardless of what the frig it does to Dr. Paul's campaign.

Now THAT is what is disgusting!

I agree 100%

Everyone has at least one passionate reason for supporting Ron Paul, but why is it always the 911 truth movement people who feel the need to yell theirs out to everyone? I didnt hear anyone who supports gun rights like me yelling "GIMMIE MY GUNS!!!!!" or any other movement for that matter. Im not even saying I dont agree somethings fishy about 911, but what the hell does that have to do with supporting Ron Paul? Ive asked this question over and over yet nobody seems to give a good reason that they do this. Fine, you believe 911 was an inside job, great, cant you guys just listen like the rest of the RP supporters and keep it about Ron Paul's message instead of bringing your own selfish desires out? Im only talking to the ones who support this kind of behavior, so if youre a 911 guy and dont yell this stuff out while hes giving a speech, im not talking to you, im talking to the ones that do.

Seriously guys, quit being such attention whores. This is stupid. Just support Ron like everyone else does. These rallys are about Rons message, not your beliefs or mine. Its about getting the man elected so he can shrink government and protect liberty, not any one specific need any one of us might have.

 

[ecliptic]

flame war

Fine, you believe 911 was an inside job, great, cant you guys just listen like the rest of the RP supporters and keep it about Ron Paul's message instead of bringing your own selfish desires out? Im only talking to the ones who support this kind of behavior, so if youre a 911 guy and dont yell this stuff out while hes giving a speech, im not talking to you, im talking to the ones that do.

Seriously guys, quit being such attention whores.

Wow! That's some serious flame bait, asshole.

You and the others groupthinkers who obsess on this issue are the only ones keeping it alive. Notice how I never post a word about 911 unless forced to defend myself against false stereotyping and disruptive comments such as those in this thread which effectively ruined an extremely good thread. Notice it's ALWAYS the "anti-truthers" who start these arguments.

From another post in this thread:

 

[WannaBfree]

Notice how I never post a word about 911 unless forced to defend myself against false stereotyping and disruptive comments such as those in this thread which effectively ruined an extremely good thread. Notice it's ALWAYS the "anti-truthers" who start these arguments.

Same goes for me. They should take their own advice and take their personal "truther" hating agenda elsewhere.

 

[quickmike]

Wow! That's some serious flame bait, asshole.

You and the others groupthinkers who obsess on this issue are the only ones keeping it alive. Notice how I never post a word about 911 unless forced to defend myself against false stereotyping and disruptive comments such as those in this thread which effectively ruined an extremely good thread. Notice it's ALWAYS the "anti-truthers" who start these arguments.

From another post in this thread:

Yeah great, call another fellow Ron Paul supporter an asshole, real nice. By the way, I said that I also had questions myself about 911, so I dont think I qualify as a "groupthinker" I have very different beliefs than many people in here have, but I dont need to go yelling them out at a Ron Paul rally, and thats all im talkng about.

Wow............ can ya feel the hate?

 

[ecliptic]

peace

Yeah great, call another fellow Ron Paul supporter an asshole, real nice.

Hey you called me a whore, so right back at 'ya. Having said that, I'll drop this issue if you and your pals will stop stereotyping, name-calling, groupthinking, and generally acting in complete contrary to everything that Ron Paul stands for, mmmm k?

Peace.

 

[jj111]

Can't we all just try to get along with one another?

 

[LibertyEagle]

I can't believe we are having so much discourse over this issue. All I have ever seen anyone ask is to not outwardly carry around 9-11 is an inside job paraphernalia, when attending a Ron Paul event or campaigning for him. Reason being, the actions of us, in all regards, will be associated with Dr. Paul. Is it really fair to imply that he believes that "9-11 is an inside job", when he has clearly stated that he does not?

Why does asking that this issue not be associated with Dr. Paul cause so much venom from a few? Most 9-11 activists that I know, already do this and preach the same thing I'm saying.

 

[quickmike]

Hey you called me a whore, so right back at 'ya. Having said that, I'll drop this issue if you and your pals will stop stereotyping, name-calling, groupthinking, and generally acting in complete contrary to everything that Ron Paul stands for, mmmm k?

Peace.

Its not groupthink because I probably dont agree with lots of things people in here believe, but we all have the common goal of getting RP elected. Im just trying to get an answer from someone as to why we need to yell that stuff out, not just 911 things, but anything that is specific to any one of us, so im not trying to single out 911 people. I would say the same thing about gun people like myself if I heard them yell "guns!!!!guns!!!guns!!!!guns!!!!" Whats the point? Thats all im asking. Really, whats the point? Can you give an answer? Im not saying you shouldnt be able to do it. Im not trying to limit speech or silence anyone, but just asking ............... whats the point?

 

[ecliptic]

lies

All I have ever seen anyone ask is to not outwardly carry around 9-11 is an inside job paraphernalia, when attending a Ron Paul event or campaigning for him.

Tons of truth seekers are doing this already. I never mix the two. neither do any of the local 911 truth seekers I know personally. This is NOT a problem. The problem is with the folks who continually bring up this subject and they are 100% "anti-truthers". THOSE folks insist on derogatory comments and tidbits of flame bait, keeping a non-issue in the forefront and ruining positive threads. What is THEIR agenda? Are THEY really helping Ron Paul by re-gurgitating their phony concerns about a non-issue over and over?

This is my last post on 911 truth-haters in this thread.

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

What is sad is that some people, who claim to support Ron Paul, can't manage to attend an event and just sit their butts down and listen, but instead attempt to use this event to further their OWN cause, regardless of what the frig it does to Dr. Paul's campaign.

Now THAT is what is disgusting!

I agree. We do not have a problem with people who want a new investigation

We DO have a problem with someone who comes to a Ron Paul Event (a celebration of life and liberty) to push their 9/11 Truth agenda. I would be just as upset with anyone else who is pushing a platform that DOES NOT LIKE UP WITH PAUL's. It is only hurting our campaign. It would be different if Dr. Paul was supporting the movement but he is not

 

[WannaBfree]

I can't believe we are having so much discourse over this issue. All I have ever seen anyone ask is to not outwardly carry around 9-11 is an inside job paraphernalia, when attending a Ron Paul event or campaigning for him. Reason being, the actions of us, in all regards, will be associated with Dr. Paul. Is it really fair to imply that he believes that "9-11 is an inside job", when he has clearly stated that he does not?

Why does asking that this issue not be associated with Dr. Paul cause so much venom from a few? Most 9-11 activists that I know, already do this and preach the same thing I'm saying.

lol - everyone knows you are the main instigator. And who has ever implied that RP thinks "911 was an inside job"? Can you answer this, or the following:

You always say it hurts Ron Paul's chances but never present any evidence to support your view. How would it hurt it if the majority of Americans believe the following?:

http://www.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/result...0.content.html

http://edition.cnn.com/POLLSERVER/re...8.exclude.html

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=855

 

[DeadheadForPaul]

WannaB, We're not attacking all 9/11 Truth supporters but it is clear that there are some who are using Ron Paul events to spread their message. As a member of this movement, you should be one of the main people discouraging such actions. It does a great disservice to Dr. Paul. Whether you want to believe it or not, most people are turned off by the 9/11 truth movement because the average person sees them as a bunch of conspiracy theorists. This is the last thing we need in Dr. Paul's campaign. We're already fighting an up-hill battle with the media and special interests against us. Why would we want to make this even worse through our own actions?

 

[LibertyEagle]

ecliptic,

It started out, because someone reported the fact of a few 9-11 activists pitching their wares while in attendance at the rally. Why is it wrong for them to report the facts of what they saw?

I just don't get why it makes you so mad. Seems like you would be with us in thinking that this isn't the proper place and time for this kind of activism. Frankly, any activism, besides furthering Ron Paul's platform. It's not just limited to the issue of 9-11.

 

[ecliptic]

most people?

...most people are turned off by the 9/11 truth movement because the average person sees them as a bunch of conspiracy theorists.

Most people? Can you back that up with anything at all?

How do you explain these:








'cuz it sure looks like at least some people have some questions...

I guess we don't need those people's votes?

Who are you to decide what Ron Paul's stance on the issue of a new investigation into the 200+ nagging questions about what really happened on that day?

Isn't it interesting that Ron Paul repeatedly goes on the radio show of one of the leading advocates for a new investigation? What's up with that?